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Old Posted Jul 4, 2009, 2:11 AM
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Thanks for the upload.

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YVR changed a lot from the last time I was there... which was a long time ago anyway. Here are a few more photos of the C-Pier terminal in addition to the ones zahav has uploaded which just opened int the morning. Apologize for the quality: with cellphone.

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Smile Great pictures, Zahav, Deasine ! ! !

Those are great pictures! They show an airport that is "going places!" There is only one thing missing; the gamut of destinations of which YVR is worthy. I think this, too will change over the next three years, despite the negativistic "doom and gloom" naysayers who seem to enjoy throwing cold water on everything. Keep on sluggin', people! We'll make it to the Big League yet !
     
     
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nice pics looks good

this is a lot of seating - is it in a hallway or something? seems weird but I suppose a good spot to get away from the hustle

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Old Posted Jul 4, 2009, 8:35 PM
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nice pics looks good

this is a lot of seating - is it in a hallway or something? seems weird but I suppose a good spot to get away from the hustle
I'm guessing that area is not complete yet because that's the part where the Intl and Domestic terminals are linked.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2009, 8:37 PM
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Fewer summer vacationers visiting Vancouver

Updated: Sat Jul. 04 2009 18:58:28

ctvbc.ca

Summer is the prime season for those who rely on tourists to make a living - but tourism officials say fewer vacationers are visiting Vancouver this year, and those who do are spending less.

"A little more cautious, you know, using the coupons when they give them to us," Vancouver visitor Kimberly Wilkins said Saturday.

Tourism Vancouver numbers suggest a drop of between 10 and 15 per cent in business - leaving tour companies competing for a shrinking well of visitors.

The numbers are corroborated by the lack of people flying into Vancouver. So far this year, passenger arrivals at YVR have dropped more than 10 per cent.

"April right through till September, early October is usually very strong and this year will be one of the weaker years," Tourism Vancouver's Rick Antonson said.

But despite the doom and gloom, there are bright spots.

"Future business looks very strong," Antonson said. "Not just because of the Olympics, but because of convention business."

That's how many in the industry are choosing to look at the situation - trying to remain positive.

"The wonderful thing about the tourism industry is people are happy, they're here to have a good time," Vancouver Trolley Company employee Phil Fowler said.

"You get that vibe out and you make sure they have a good time, and it all comes back to having a beautiful experience."

But whether that positive thinking will be matched by positive numbers leading into 2010 is still anyone's guess.

With a report from CTV British Columbia's Stephen Smart
     
     
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Is anyone surprised that tourism has suffered? With the economic problems 10% is not a big deal. Vancouver is probably faring better than other parts of the world.
     
     
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Is anyone surprised that tourism has suffered? With the economic problems 10% is not a big deal. Vancouver is probably faring better than other parts of the world.
"People travel less in times of Global Recession, News at 11"
     
     
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Is anyone surprised that tourism has suffered? With the economic problems 10% is not a big deal. Vancouver is probably faring better than other parts of the world.
From what people have told me, Vancouver IS faring better than other parts of the world. England is like the Titanic, with its bow slipping under the water line, and Germany and France are grinding their gears horribly. (In fact, if you have the money this would be a GREAT year to visit Paris, as hotels are slashing their prices due to the record low numbers of American and other tourists) But . . . wait until the much vaunted 2010 Olympics are over. Watch the reality set in. Watch the city pay for this billion-dollar baby for the next generation. Sure, it's civic glory, but at what price? When the bills come due, and if the global economy isn't back up and running (and it won't be) the costs of all this will hobble the local economy. The only glimmer of hope is that by putting the city "on the map" it may be able to snag a few head offices, and thereby increase its economic presence on the world stage. Or is that wishful thinking? (And what does all that mean for YVR?) I'll let the economic experts answer that.
     
     
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I wouldn't be surprised tourism is suffering. Airfares are getting pretty expensive and its hard to find connecting flights without sleeping overnight. Although I keep hearing on the news that tickets are cheaper than ever for some reason.
Hope to see all the new stuff in a couple of days and take the Canada Line when I get back.
     
     
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From what people have told me, Vancouver IS faring better than other parts of the world. England is like the Titanic, with its bow slipping under the water line, and Germany and France are grinding their gears horribly. (In fact, if you have the money this would be a GREAT year to visit Paris, as hotels are slashing their prices due to the record low numbers of American and other tourists) But . . . wait until the much vaunted 2010 Olympics are over. Watch the reality set in. Watch the city pay for this billion-dollar baby for the next generation. Sure, it's civic glory, but at what price? When the bills come due, and if the global economy isn't back up and running (and it won't be) the costs of all this will hobble the local economy. The only glimmer of hope is that by putting the city "on the map" it may be able to snag a few head offices, and thereby increase its economic presence on the world stage. Or is that wishful thinking? (And what does all that mean for YVR?) I'll let the economic experts answer that.




^ if you know what the Olympic expenditures are, there's no reason to worry. The costs have been overblown to non-existent proportions by the media and the public.


Olympic Venue Costs, federal and provincial: $580-million
- divided equally between feds and province

Olympic Venue Costs, municipal: ~$300-million
- Richmond Oval, ~$90-million: payed off by Richmond's development permit revenues, adjacent land sales, and casino revenue
- Vancouver venues: had always planned to replace aging community centres and recreational facilities, fast forwarded in time for 2010; about $120-million
- Whistler, about $10-million

Olympic Village
- about $850-million, will very likely break even over the next 2-3 years through increased sales...worst case scenario, a small deficit
- had been a community planned regardless of 2010

Operational Costs: $1.7-billion
- covered entirely by sponsorship, tv rights, ticket sales, merchandise
- no public money involved

Ceremonies/Torch Relay
- federal contribution: $45-million

Civic decorations/public art/festivities in Vancouver
- $30-million, City of Vancouver

Security
- about $900-million (province: ~$350-million; feds: the rest)

Secretariat
- $200-million (province/feds split)

Other: $300-million
- tourism initiatives/promotions, Own the Podium 2010, Legacies Now
- Cultural Olympiad




It's no different than spending $4-billion on the Gateway project, except the Olympics will cost less. Costs and social impacts are simply overblown. If anything, because of the Games expenditures the recession's economic impact has been softened....Roosevelt anyone?

The Canada Line, new convention centre, and Sea-to-Sky highway are not considered as Olympic costs nor should they be.

On the other hand, London 2012 could quite possibly turn into a financial disaster for the Brits.
     
     
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I wouldn't be surprised tourism is suffering. Airfares are getting pretty expensive and its hard to find connecting flights without sleeping overnight. Although I keep hearing on the news that tickets are cheaper than ever for some reason.
Hope to see all the new stuff in a couple of days and take the Canada Line when I get back.
i keep hearing of cheap fares too yet they don't seem that cheap compared to past summers - maybe $100 cheaper but not the bargains they are trying to say there are
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2009, 7:56 AM
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i keep hearing of cheap fares too yet they don't seem that cheap compared to past summers - maybe $100 cheaper but not the bargains they are trying to say there are
Yeah they are are cheap, but your return fare is expensive. Great... Adding on to the taxes and other random surcharges, your flight isn't THAT cheap as it seems...
     
     
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i keep hearing of cheap fares too yet they don't seem that cheap compared to past summers - maybe $100 cheaper but not the bargains they are trying to say there are
Yeah, I've noticed some flights are cheaper to major destinations. However, the connecting flights are cut back to one per day and the price has increased. Not to mention unless you can sleep somewhere in the airport, you basically have to add on the hotel room (or those sleeping cubes at the very least).
Also, I've noticed some very strange things...like one way tickets being the same price as return (or even more in some cases!). Now that's just crazy...
     
     
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i keep hearing of cheap fares too yet they don't seem that cheap compared to past summers - maybe $100 cheaper but not the bargains they are trying to say there are
Considering people in Calgary will drive 45 minutes to the Native land to save 3 cents per litre on gas, feeling like they have screwed the man with their 90 cents savings (while spending $6 to get there and back), it hardly surprises me to see the media pandering and calling $50 - $100 substantially cheaper. Think of all of the margaritas you can buy in Mexico for that! I suppose the one thing that isn't factored in, compared to last year, however, is that most major airlines have eliminated fuel surcharges. For example last year it was nearly $250 each way from Tokyo - Vancouver, and this year none at all.

That said, we *are* at a place now where I consider most fares to be fair. How cheap do you think they can lug you and all your crap across the Country / World for in a $300 million machine?

Hotel rooms are also substantially less now, too. Where I stay in Tokyo has gone down about 50% over the last year and a half.
     
     
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fair price is fair but the news - global noon - did a story last week showing $9 air fares

won't be going anywhere for a long time
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fair price is fair but the news - global noon - did a story last week showing $9 air fares

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Heh. I remember when WestJet first launched they would have $1 fares.

Unfortunately after taxes it was $100

Nonetheless, my brother took many flights with them for that!

WestJet actually does have some GREAT vacation deals on now. My friends parents booked a return trip to Las Vegas, 4 nights for $1500 (in the Wynn no less), flights were next to nothing.

Obviously the hotel / casino PROBABLY subsidizes WestJet, but hey, nows a good time to go gamble all your money away.
     
     
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My flight from Vancouver there and back was only 480$ with taxes included.
I've been checking to see if there has been any better deals and the prices have gone up ever since I purchased my tickets. I usually go with air canada because every westjet flight I have been on the staff were rude. There is no difference at all cost wise between Air Can and westjet!
     
     
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Unfortunately after taxes it was $100
Don't forget about the return flight: $400 before taxes.
     
     
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Angry Tell me; can anyone give Ottawa a kick in the butt?

Emirates Airlines frustrated by Ottawa rebuffs



Refusal to let Emirates boost Canadian service at odds with Harper's, trade stance, exec says

Feb 28, 2009 04:30 AM
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OTTAWA – Andrew Parker says he's got a surefire plan to create several hundred jobs in Toronto, pump tens of millions of dollars into the region's ailing economy and boost flagging tourism numbers.

Best of all, he doesn't need any government handouts to make it happen, just the approval of the federal transport department.

But despite months of asking, that hasn't happened.

Parker is a senior vice-president at Emirates Airlines, a fast-growing airline that for more than a year has been rebuffed by Ottawa in its attempts to increase flights from Dubai to Pearson, as well as start service to Calgary and Vancouver.

The airline, which now flies three times a week to Canada, all of it to Toronto – the most allowed under the current air agreement – has so far been denied permission by Transport Canada to begin daily service.

The refusal comes even as Prime Minister Stephen Harper has been publicly lecturing other nations about the dangers of trade protectionism, warning sternly that closing national borders to foreign investments will only worsen the economic downturn.

"There is a slight disconnect between very strong policy, which is progressive ... versus the technical reality. It is frustrating," Parker said this week in an interview from Dubai, where Emirates is based.

"It is far better for economies to be liberal, to be open, to be welcoming of new investment," said Parker, who looks after public, government and environment affairs for the airline. "We are surprised and a little frustrated that at the department level we haven't been able to convince them."

The Greater Toronto Airports Authority, which runs Pearson airport, says that allowing Emirates and its competitor, Etihad Airways, to increase flights to the United Arab Emirates would produce an economic windfall – more than 500 jobs, $20 million in salaries and $13.5 million in tax revenues.

"We're never going to be a giant replacement for manufacturing, but these are important, high-end, good-quality jobs that, particularly in the current climate, I think are needed," Parker said.

The airline has garnered some high-profile supporters to its cause, including the City of Toronto and Queen's Park.

"By promoting tourism, enhancing trade and generating new investment in the Toronto region by UAE firms, the expansion will provide jobs for Canadians both inside and outside of Toronto," Toronto Mayor David Miller wrote then-transport minister Lawrence Cannon.

This week, Transport Minister John Baird said he has met with the UAE ambassador in Ottawa and that he wanted to hear from officials at Emirates, even though they've already made repeated representations to the department.

Transport Canada has told airline executives that six flights a week split between Emirates and Etihad are enough to serve the route.

Parker argues that growing ties between Canada and the UAE more than justify an increase in service. He says 15,000 Canadians now live in the Gulf nation, several hundred Canadian companies have offices in Dubai and trade is on the upswing.

And he notes that the current flights, served by a 364-seat Boeing 777-300ER, usually fly 90 per cent full, among the highest load factor in Emirates' worldwide network.

Ottawa's denials have already hurt the Greater Toronto Area, Parker says.

As a result of the uncertainty, the airline has cancelled plans for a new business lounge at Pearson, a project worth more than $2 million that would have created "dozens" of jobs.

Also on hold is Emirates' ambitious plan to market Toronto and Ontario to the world since the airline doesn't have the frequency of flights to handle any extra traffic.
     
     
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