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Nobody seemed to have checked out my post about the new Harly dealership at the old Geneva Steel site. Probably because there was no picture. But, please believe me it is worth checking out. I tried finding a picture, but the website didn't allow me access to its url address of the specific piture. But, check this out: http://www.timpanogosharleygallery.com/ The building is incredible!!! It is built mostly out of the old Geneva Factory buildings. I'm not a Harley fan. I am an architecture fan, and this has got to be the coolest building in Utah Valley and maybe the state. Check it out!!
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We had covered that quite a long time ago with pictures included. Definitely a very cool building.
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Nobody seemed to have checked out my post about the new Harly dealership at the old Geneva Steel site. Probably because there was no picture. But, please believe me it is worth checking out. I tried finding a picture, but the website didn't allow me access to its url address of the specific piture. But, check this out: http://www.timpanogosharleygallery.com/ The building is incredible!!! It is built mostly out of the old Geneva Factory buildings. I'm not a Harley fan. I am an architecture fan, and this has got to be the coolest building in Utah Valley and maybe the state. Check it out!!
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Springville fire station to open with hose-cutting

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/70531...e-station-to-open-with-hose-cutting.html

...The new $2.6 million, 20,000-square-foot fire station, with four drive-through fire bays, replaces one built in the 1960s. Whitney says there wasn't enough room in the old station to walk between the firetrucks or store all of the equipment. The new building also provides more office and training space.

"It dresses up downtown tremendously," Whitney said of the new fire station. "It gives us more of an attractive city park and downtown area that will serve the community."...



The new fire station in Springville. (Jason Olson, Deseret News)

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Relief for Eagle Mountain, Saratoga Springs commuters on the way

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705313272/Relief-for-Eagle-Mtn-commuters.html

Driving out to Saratoga Springs or Eagle Mountain is a bit laborious, but motorists from those two communities are getting a little relief.

Two separate projects in north Utah County will make the road to Saratoga Springs and beyond into Eagle Mountain much easier by next fall...


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Old Posted Jun 28, 2009, 8:54 AM
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It has an excellent grid for the most part, which could handle a well thought out urban center.


Delts-- i don't know about this statement...it seems to me orem has NO grid-- nothing but filled in orchards. from south of center street, main street is to the west, but north of center it transitions to the east. very confusing...also, they have more dead end streets in orem than all of utah county combined!! (k, maybe not, but can you tell i deliver for a living?!) everytime we have a delivery for orem, i have to hop on mapquest just to get simple directions! i don't think orem has a well planned out grid by any means!

now, delts--you know how to take this!
i'm just trying to say that orem is still the little sister to provo. one that steals everything provo gets, but which provo can't seem to hang on to! orem seems to be a leach from provo in a lot of ways.

university mall
orem owlz (was provo angels)
car dealerships
university pkwy corridor businesses

provo needs to step up to the plate and start getting in some good development in smart ways or provo will no longer be the big boy in the neighborhood.

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This is why it seems Provo is and will be a major city, is because it actually has a grid / downtown / CBD. Really only 3 cities in Utah seem to have one at all: Salt Lake City, Ogden, and Provo. The rest of the Utah cities seem to just have a long main street, where they center all development. So unless one of those cities just bulldozes entire blocks of houses, they'll never be able to really accommodate a downtown.
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Well, they could always create a new downtown; Sandy comes to mind with projects like the Pro-watchamacallit...

... or I'm just off my rocker.

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Well, they could always create a new downtown; Sandy comes to mind with projects like the Pro-watchamacallit...

... or I'm just off my rocker.

They're definitely trying Can they really do that much though. I mean many cities could just create new downtowns, but in doing so would either have to take down blocks of houses (and in order to create a decent sized downtown, that'd be a lot of houses, which isn't likely) or build at a different location in the city (which would be awkward). If you think of most major cities in the history of America, they designed the city with a large lot set aside for their downtown. In fact, that's probably a likely contribution as to why they became big cities in the first place.

It be interesting to see examples of cities that didn't have much downtown at first and later on created one.
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The Wasatch Front ~ America's Most Beautiful Metro Vistas


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Convention centers moving forward in Provo, Pleasant Grove

Provo leaders share ideas; Pl. Grove hotel has gone out to bid

By Sara Lenz

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Published: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:25 p.m. MDT


PROVO — Local elected officials and business leaders shared their ideas Tuesday for a proposed 80,000-square-foot convention center in the Utah County seat.

Utah County Commissioner Steve White called it "a visioning meeting," during which community members and architects discussed what the center should include and how it should look. The proposed site for the center is a block west of the Provo Marriott, 101 W. 100 North.

A 2 1/2-month, $79,000 conceptual-design study is under way to answer questions such as how much parking would be needed and which direction the center should face, said Paul Glauser, Provo's Redevelopment Agency director.

The convention center ultimately would be a county project because the main source of funding would come from hotel tax.

By the end of June, architects should have at least six conceptual designs of the building, said Don Nay, Utah County's assistant public works director. The architects will then discuss the plans and decide on one during a series of meetings. Nay said he hopes to have at least one of those meetings at a time when the public can look at the plans and offer feedback.
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Construction on the convention center could start as early as next spring, Glauser said.

The convention center would accommodate community meetings that have outgrown other buildings and attract business groups that periodically change meeting locales, he said. The ballroom would hold between 1,500 and 1,800 people.

Currently, Provo has the only full-service hotel in Utah County — the Marriott, Glauser said. County officials expect that a convention center in Provo's unique downtown would attract companies to the area.

"This will be another important element in revitalizing downtown Provo," Glauser said.

Initially, there was some concern among government officials and business leaders about building a convention center in Provo when the Embassy Suites and Convention Center is moving forward in Pleasant Grove. But White said the centers would appeal to different markets.

Richard Bradford, Pleasant Grove's director for economic development, said the convention centers will be "as different as apples and oranges."

The Embassy Suites and Convention Center will attract larger meetings with its larger convention space, Bradford said. The Provo center would appeal more to in-state, multi-state and regional conferences, Glauser said.

Financing for the Pleasant Grove conference center has been obtained and the project has gone out to bid, Bradford said. Construction likely will begin this summer and could be complete by spring 2011, he said.

The nine-story hotel and convention center is planned for the northeast corner of the intersection of I-15 and Pleasant Grove Boulevard. The center will be 100,000 square feet and include 280 guest suites, with a dining room capable of hosting 2,700 people, Bradford said.

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just go word from my hotel friends (and EXCELLENT customers) that they just broke ground for Marriott Townplace on 800 north in orem. they said it was a lower "quality" type hotel than the residence inn...meaning, i guess, not as many "stars" so to speak.

anyway, just thought i'd throw that out there...i know how much orem needs to get it's act together when it comes to development...

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North County Boulevard Opens

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Pleasant Grove - What began as a sketch on the back of napkin moved closer to reality on Friday as Morris Hodson became the first to cruise the new phase two of North Utah County Boulevard...


Karen McCoy, of American Fork, drives her 1970 Dodge Challenger T/A down North County Boulevard arter its grand opening Friday, July 31, 2009. (Pic by Mark Johnston/Daily Herald)

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A BIG 'vision' for west of Utah Lake

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Utah County » 'Vision' shows freeways, bridges for 500,000 people.

By Brandon Loomis
The Salt Lake Tribune


Goshen » It's all greasewood and jackrabbits out here on Utah County's
"back 40," a lonely and lovely retreat for the old-fangled cowboy.

That's today. Folks around here know it can't last, and now there's
color-coded evidence: a map that heralds the coming wave of
suburban buckaroos in split-level ranches.

Utah Lake's great beyond is about to land on a transportation plan
that rolls out freeways and bridges for an expected desert land
rush by 500,000 or more people over the next half-century.

"I guess I'll have to head to Wyoming or Montana next," ranch manager
Rich Fowler said last week while mending a barbed-wire fence next
to a stock pond. He saw urban sprawl munch farms and ranches in
California and Nevada before the cowboy want ads brought him here.
He knows his cows stand in a freeway's path.



Where most people see a placid reflection of Happy Valley on the
state's shallow freshwater sea, municipal planners see a chance to
cut and paste the civilized east shore onto the brushy west. If they're
right, the next generation in Utah's second-largest county will see
as many neighbors in the dry hills out west as currently gather
around Provo-Orem at the base of the Wasatch Mountains.

"This is really the only area in urban Utah that is undeveloped to
[this] degree," said Darrell Cook, chairman of metropolitan Utah
County's road-planning organization, Mountainland Association of Governments [MAG]. "We have, on a large scale, an opportunity
to do it right.

"That's a planner's dream."

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Open space along Highway 89 west of Utah Lake
could become a fond memory. Municipal planners have big designs for
the area in the coming decades, including north-south freeways and
bridges across the lake to handle a population of 500,000. (Francisco Kjolseth / The Salt Lake Tribune)



Vision of growth » Doing it right, in MAG's nearly completed
"West Lake Vision" plan, means building two bridges across the
25-mile-long lake and wrapping a freeway from Saratoga Springs to
Eagle Mountain and south to Goshen, then east to Interstate 15.
A beltway farther west would traverse the Cedar Valley, and a grid of collector highways would carve the Goshen and Cedar valleys.

The plan that MAG adopts this fall will inform its next official long-term
roads funding list, set for review in 2011.

It's a vision that makes sprawl fighters sigh. Planting essentially a
second Happy Valley west of the lake and serving it with freeways
just ensures a future of more smog and particulate pollution from
people who have to drive long distances for everything, Sierra Club
regional representative Marc Heileson said.

While Salt Lake County and now even eastern Utah County have
embraced light rail, commuter rail and clustered denser developments
around mass transit, he said, spreading asphalt beyond the lake would
"undo everything good that's happening."

"It is a new definition for bad planning," Heileson said. "It's like all
the mistakes that Los Angeles and Phoenix made" rolled into this plan.

The Sierra Club also balks at the bridges, which Heileson said would
stir up pollutants from the muck and then add a steady stream of
motor oil from the cars passing over.

Heileson said he doesn't believe things will work out as MAG envisions.
Any increase in air pollution would cut off federal transportation funding
that the county desperately needs, he said.

Cook disagrees. Air pollution would be worse if more people stacked
up against the Wasatch's granite wall, he said. And besides the freeways,
he expects the Utah Transit Authority will extend its railways into the
virgin territory. He hopes for job centers and colleges to keep the new residents near home.

The plan doesn't specify where newcomers will get their water. MAG
doesn't predict exactly when all of this will happen, though Cook said
30 to 40 years is a fair estimate.

Cedar Valley, Beyond Eagle Mtn. and Saratoga Springs lies the next metro land rush

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It's not going to be cheap.

"Billions, plural," Cook offers. It could cost the state $6 billion for
freeway construction alone, he said, not to mention engineering
miles-long bridges over the deep muck under the lake.

Compare that to the $1.7 billion that the Utah Department of
Transportation currently is spending to rebuild and widen I-15
past Provo.

"I really think [a West Lake highway system] will be the most
expensive expenditure the state will make over the next little
while," said Kent Millington, the Utah Transportation Commission
member who represents Utah County.

MAG's plan is important because it shows where the county, city
and state need to preserve highway rights of way against the
coming development, Millington said. And he believes it is coming
no matter what.

"If you look at what's happened just this decade in Eagle Mountain
and Saratoga Springs," he said, "that area has grown from a little
more than a few houses to 40,000 or 50,000 people out there."



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The growth of those bedroom communities off the lake's northwest
shore has paced Utah's nation-leading population surge lately.
Planners expect a similar swell to round the lake's south end through
pastoral Goshen when Payson and Santaquin build out.

The strands of big beige stucco homes now flowing into Eagle
Mountain hay fields in the north eventually could fill in the back
side of the Lake Mountains.

There will be affordable lots for countless happy families, said
Eagle Mountain Mayor Heather Jackson, one of the city's earliest
pioneers when she and her husband bought a home 11 years ago.

Eagle Mountain is planning for MAG's vision. Even before the
"West Lake" plan, the city was zoning corridors for freeways. MAG's
map now lines up two future freeways with those protected rights
of way. There's also an east-west swath for what MAG calls a
"Pony Express Parkway" from Saratoga Springs to Eagle Mountain,
harking to the cities' place on the short-lived Old West mail route.

She's eager to make room for neighbors, especially if it means
building the critical mass for freeways and bridges to shorten the
drive to Orem. What took 30 minutes a decade ago now takes an
hour, she said.

"It greatly affects the quality of life right now," Jackson said.

All these lines on the map have a different meaning to cowboy Fowler.
They signal the death of another cow town. Goshen remains a weedy checkerboard of gravel roads and horse trailers, where the locals
safely erect a home-painted "Kids at Play" sign on the shoulder
without attracting highway code enforcers.

"I think it sucks," he said, grinning to show tobacco-stained teeth
and shrugging at the inevitable.

"Strip malls. Highways. They'll do it all here. Everybody who buys
these condos thinks their food comes from a grocery store."

Transportation commissioner Millington sympathizes. He watched
Orem's growth squeeze out prized orchards. But farmers line up to
sell when the price is right, he said, and they always find a new
valley.

"I still buy plenty of apples," he said. "I used to buy them from Orem.
Now I get them from somewhere else."

West Lake Vision
» 500,000 people west of Utah Lake

» Two freeway loops

» Two lake spans

» Urban masses in the Cedar and Goshen valleys
West Lake Vision
500,000 people west of Utah Lake

Two freeway loops

Two lake spans

Urban masses in the Cedar and Goshen valleys


Mount Nebo as seen from the Goshen Valley

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Looking northeast from Goshen Valley

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That's very unfortunate. That plan is the very definiton of sprawl. There is much improvement that could occur with Orem, Provo, and Lehi, that could allow for denser, more sustainable living. The area around the East shore of the Lake, like the old Geneva site, hold great opportunities for growth and development. It's sad to me that even in times of recession and the all but dead housing market, the bad habits of sprawl still persist.
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That's very unfortunate. That plan is the very definiton of sprawl. There is much improvement that could occur with Orem, Provo, and Lehi, that could allow for denser, more sustainable living. The area around the East shore of the Lake, like the old Geneva site, hold great opportunities for growth and development. It's sad to me that even in times of recession and the all but dead housing market, the bad habits of sprawl still persist.
Yeah I agree. I especially don't like the idea of bridges over Utah Lake.
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She's eager to make room for neighbors, especially if it means
building the critical mass for freeways and bridges to shorten the
drive to Orem. What took 30 minutes a decade ago now takes an
hour, she said.

"It greatly affects the quality of life right now," Jackson said.
Idiot, if you work in Orem, then move to Orem!

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All these lines on the map have a different meaning to cowboy Fowler.
They signal the death of another cow town. Goshen remains a weedy checkerboard of gravel roads and horse trailers, where the locals
safely erect a home-painted "Kids at Play" sign on the shoulder
without attracting highway code enforcers.

"I think it sucks," he said, grinning to show tobacco-stained teeth
and shrugging at the inevitable.

Seems like there is some bias going on in this article: Of course this guy has lost all credibility because he has "tabacco-stained teeth." Also, why is this possible sprawl "enevitable?"

Who said our mountains provide a natural urban growth boundary?! We need an urban growth boundary, and fast!!!

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"Strip malls. Highways. They'll do it all here. Everybody who buys
these condos thinks their food comes from a grocery store
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Exactly! We're loosing farmland and open spaces here. The majority of people who will end up buying these plots of land for their single family home are likely not going to be growing their own food.

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Transportation commissioner Millington sympathizes. He watched
Orem's growth squeeze out prized orchards. But farmers line up to
sell when the price is right, he said, and they always find a new
valley.

"I still buy plenty of apples," he said. "I used to buy them from Orem.
Now I get them from somewhere else."
And it will take even longer and use more gas miles to ship those apples to the local "farmer's markets" or grocery stores.

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ignorace does not excuse poor planning

I can't believe the ignorance of all these people pushing for living way out there. Please, someone with some power reign in these foresighted idiots!!!!!!!!! If you moved to Eagle Mountain because it was cheaper and you had more land you should have realized this also meant very long commutes. The planners and politicians who approved these developments out there should have realized the cost of utilities per one person is greatly increased. This is ignorant american unsustainable development!!!!!!!!!
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Speedy bus lanes coming to Utah County


Transportation » Dedicated lanes will let passengers whiz past traffic.

By Patty Henetz
The Salt Lake Tribune


The roads most traveled in Provo and Orem are shaping up as a transit network that will allow residents, students and commuters to get around town and farther north along the Wasatch Front without getting into cars.

The Utah Transit Authority's FrontRunner trains soon will power up, but key to its success -- and getting more cars off University Parkway and University Avenue -- is a streamlined route for what's called Bus Rapid Transit (BRT).

"It will whiz by all the traffic," said Laynee Jones, a consulting engineer for the project.

Under the plan, passengers can go to BRT stops spaced every half-mile and catch a ride every five or 10 minutes, then coast along dedicated lanes to Utah Valley University, Brigham Young University, retail malls and the Novell campus.

The stops will resemble TRAX stations and provide the same kind of preboarding tickets. Because riders will pay in advance and the buses will have multiple doors, getting on and off will be faster than with conventional buses.

The ride will be smoother than a regular bus and the stations will have electronic signs telling passengers when the next bus arrives. "You don't even have to check a schedule," Jones said.

The BRT route will hit the high spots, possibly in 2012. From the FrontRunner station and Orem Intermodal Center on the west side of Interstate 15 across from UVU, the sleek buses will travel University Parkway to BYU and the proposed Southgate Center.

The cities' major malls will have stops as will Novell's campus at the East Bay Business Complex.

"We hook up UVU and BYU, then we also hook up the Provo Towne Centre mall and University Mall in Orem," said Hal Johnson, UTA's project manager. "A lot of what we're going after is the student market. They're great for us. They're consistent, they like transit, fits with their lifestyle."

Commuters are another prime target. While county leaders agree FrontRunner trains will be welcome, their parking lots are too small to handle the expected crowds. BRT's connections mean workers can get to the station from points closer to their homes.

Connecting UVU with the south side of Provo "kind of creates a nice arc," said Chad Eccles, transportation planner for the Mountainland Association of Governments. Because BRT will run alongside the urban traffic, Eccles said, "it markets itself."

Planners expect 13,000 riders on opening day, which has yet to be scheduled because the funding is in flux. Johnson said UTA hoped to find money in new sales-tax growth, but the past couple of years of economic disaster worked the other way.

Federal funding is an option, but the county would have to come up with at least 20 percent of the total cost, which has yet to be calculated. "It's kind of dictated by what the communities want," Johnson said.

One thing is sure: BRT will cost a lot less than light rail would have.

Although the costs for the nine-mile BRT route aren't yet solid, planners say the line could cost up to $280 million if the construction includes a dedicated lane through UVU and a BRT bridge over 800 South, which would ease traffic through that interchange.

By comparison, Johnson said, the seven-mile Mid-Jordan TRAX line cost $580 million, with taxpayers chipping in 20 percent to the federal government's 80 percent.

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I-15 rebuild could extend to Spanish Fork

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705327491/I-15-rebuild-may-extend-to-Sp-Fork.html

SPRINGVILLE — City leaders are hopeful that an I-15 reconstruction project from American Fork to south Provo will extend past Springville and possibly reach Spanish Fork.

Work is set to begin in the spring on the section of I-15 between American Fork and Provo, I-15 Core project manager Dal Hawks told the Springville City Council on Tuesday. The flattening of asphalt prices could make extending the project further south possible, Hawks said...


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