YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 78

Millennium2002 · #**1541** Posted **Jun 16, 2009, 11:49 PM**

Not entirely. The EU has pushed for liberalization in inter EU routes.

The main fear of governments of course is being dominated by another country and their businesses. For example Canada would probably not like it if UAE-based Emirates started to take over a majority of international and domestic routes in Canada. International routes for sure could be liberalized and there can be healthy competition there between Air Canada and other international carriers, but with the domestic market Canadian airlines or Canadian-majority-owned joint ventures I think should keep operating those services.

SpongeG · #**1542** Posted **Jun 16, 2009, 11:55 PM**

B.C. flights cancelled as Russian volcano erupts

VANCOUVER — An eight-kilometre-high cloud of ash, spewing from a remote Russian volcano, forced three flights from Vancouver to Asia to be cancelled Monday.

"There were a total of three round-trip flights that were affected," said Air Canada spokeswoman Angela Mah.

"They were the Vancouver-to-Tokyo, Vancouver-to-Shanghai and Vancouver-to-Seoul flights."

She said the airline is taking it "one day at a time" but has been "re-accommodating" passengers on flights to Hong Kong, which are unaffected.

Mah said Air Canada doesn't yet know what will happen Tuesday and will re-evaluate flights later Tuesday night or Wednesday.

"It depends on the volcano activity and the winds," she said.

"We have also given customers the option of cancelling and travelling at a future date with no penalty. Our customers can contact their travel agents or Air Canada reservations to make those changes."

The eruption of Russia's Sarychev Peak, on uninhabited Matua Island in the north Pacific Ocean, began overnight Thursday and is still underway, according to the RIA-Novosti news agency.

The massive ash cloud spread 310 kilometres to the west, said Olga Shestakova, a spokeswoman for the Marine Geology and Geophysics Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

"Information on the eruption has been sent to organizations dealing with the safety of airplanes and ships, as the ash cloud presents a threat to airplane engines and may lead to communications systems failures," said Shestakova.

Sarychev Peak is one of the most active volcanoes on the Kuril Islands, a seismically active archipelago that runs northeast from Japan's Hokkaido Island to Russia's Kamchatka Peninsula.

Eruptions have been recorded for more than 200 years, ranging from relatively calm lava flows to explosive blasts.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Smoke+from+Russian+volcano+delay+Vancouver+flights/1698599/story.html

SpongeG · #**1543** Posted **Jun 16, 2009, 11:56 PM**

More flights to Asia cancelled as volcano erupts

An eight-kilometre-high cloud of ash, spewing from a remote Russian volcano, forced three flights from Vancouver International Airport to Asia to be cancelled Monday.

"There were a total of three round trip flights that were affected," said Air Canada spokeswoman Angela Mah.

"They were the Vancouver-to-Tokyo, Vancouver-to-Shanghai and Vancouver-to-Seoul flights."

And on Tuesday, YVR's website noted an Air Canada flight to Beijing was cancelled, as were Air Canada and Asiana Airlines flights to Incheon, South Korea.

She said the airline is taking it "one day at a time" but has been "re-accommodating" passengers on flights to Hong Kong, which are unaffected.

Mah said Air Canada doesn't yet know what will happen Tuesday and will re-evaluate flights later Tuesday night or Wednesday.

"It depends on the volcano activity and the winds," she said.

"We have also given customers the option of cancelling and traveling at a future date with no penalty. Our customers can contact their travel agents or Air Canada reservations to make those changes."

The eruption of Sarychev Peak, on uninhabited Matua Island, part of the Kuril Islands archipelago in the north Pacific Ocean, began overnight Thursday and is still underway, according to the RIA-Novosti news agency.

The massive ash cloud spread 310 kilometres to the west, said Olga Shestakova, a spokeswoman for the Marine Geology and Geophysics Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

“Information on the eruption has been sent to organisations dealing with the safety of airplanes and ships, as the ash cloud presents a threat to airplane engines and may lead to communications systems failures,” said Shestakova.

Sarychev Peak is one of the most active volcanos on the Kuril Islands, a seismically active archipelago that runs northeast from Japan’s Hokkaido Island to Russia’s Kamchatka Peninsula.

Eruptions have been recorded for more than 200 years, ranging from relatively calm lava flows to explosive blasts.

http://www.theprovince.com/news/Flights+Asia+cancelled+volcano+erupts/1698498/story.html

metroXpress · #**1544** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 1:14 AM**

^ heard about that...pretty sad

Canadian Mind · #**1545** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 1:43 AM**

Nothing can be done about it, unless you want several aeronautical disasters.

Yume-sama · #**1546** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 2:04 AM**

Too bad, but I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more often.

mr.x · #**1547** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 6:50 AM**

Nothing really sad about....what would be sad is if they didn't cancel and decided to go ahead as planned, and even worse if something happened in mid-air. Volcanic ash is quite fatal for planes with jet engines.

Millennium2002 · #**1548** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 8:59 AM**

There was an incident where a plane passed under such an ash cloud and was barely able to limp out and land in Southeast Asia.

If Air Canada wanted to though they could have done the "long" way across via a third place (e.g. Hawaii) although that would cost much more in fuel.

- Allan Kuan

vanman · #**1549** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 10:57 AM**

^Watched that on the discovery channel as well eh?

phesto · #**1550** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 7:04 PM**

I thought this was a joke at first:

Air Canada says it will allow pets in cabin starting in July

By THE CANADIAN PRESS – 1 hour ago

MONTREAL — Air Canada says it will allow passengers to bring their cat or small dog in the cabin on flights beginning in two weeks - for $100 on a domestic return trip and $200 for overseas trips.

Beginning July 1, travellers can bring a limited number of small dogs and cats as carry-on items that can be stowed under the seat on flights by Air Canada and its Jazz Air affiliate, the carrier said Wednesday.

The Montreal airline said passengers will have to register the pet with the airline and pay a service fee of $50 for domestic and transborder trips and $100 for international flights each way.

Currently pets are kept in carriers in Air Canada planes' baggage hold and can't be brought into the cabin.

"This is the latest of our customer friendly initiatives that underscores our renewed commitment to listening to our customers and offering a competitive product that meets their needs," Ben Smith, executive vice-president and chief commercial officer at Air Canada, said in a release.

To deal with needs of passengers with allergies, the number of small pets in the cabin will be limited to a maximum of two or four depending on the type of aircraft, Air Canada said.

Air Canada said that to ensure availability customers are asked to register their pet by contacting the company's reservations desk at 1-888-247-2262 within 24 hours of completing their booking.

metroXpress · #**1551** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 7:47 PM**

of course this is the correct move....I'm sad that the volcano erupted and caused so many different problems

Yume-sama · #**1552** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 8:30 PM**

Apparently some people are being re-routed through LAX. That's kind of strange.

You'd assume YVR and LAX would have a pretty similar flight path.

And flights out of Toronto aren't being effected. You'd also assume they'd have to fly in about the same area eventually.

Canadian Mind · #**1553** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 9:07 PM**

Small dogs?

If someones chewawa starts yapping at me, I'm going to snap it's neck.

twoNeurons · #**1554** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 9:18 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canadian Mind

Small dogs?

If someones chewawa starts yapping at me, I'm going to snap it's neck.

If there's a problem, doesn't the crew have access to the hold. I can't help but think this will be a problem (unless they bring animal tranquilizers on board).

It's a great initiative, don't get me wrong, but I hope they've thought it through and have contingencies if things go wrong... Animals puking, etc.

phesto · #**1555** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 9:27 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

If there's a problem, doesn't the crew have access to the hold. I can't help but think this will be a problem (unless they bring animal tranquilizers on board).

It's a great initiative, don't get me wrong, but I hope they've thought it through and have contingencies if things go wrong... Animals puking, etc.

My mild cat allergy aside, I think it's a horrible initiative. Sitting next to a whining baby is bad enough, but a yapping dog? I appreciate Air Canada's attempt to reach out to possessive pet owners with whom this has obviously been an issue, but in the end I suspect it will piss off more people than it pleases (not to mention medium to large size dog owners). And they're charging them anyway, so why not just leave them in the hold?!? Of course, AC isn't the first airline to implement this policy (AA, Southwest, etc) but a lot of the feedback has been negative to date, so the decision to implement it in Canada is perplexing.

As if people need another reason not to fly AC...

Yume-sama · #**1556** Posted **Jun 19, 2009, 8:40 PM**

Anybody allergic is supposed to point this out at the time of check-in, beginning July 1st. Though according to Air Canada's own website, you have to prove you are deathly allergic.

Mild irritation is normal for an Air Canada flight, but they aren't really looking to kill people.

Though judging from how we took off almost sideways in Tokyo, you sometimes wonder.

Anyways, animal spots are limited to 3 or 4 per flight, and is unlikely to be on even 20% of the flights.

Now what would really freak me out is if they started allowing Monkey Helpers on the airplanes like the USA does:
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/editorial_1056.shtm

^ Reading the section about them made me laugh.

Maersk · #**1557** Posted **Jun 24, 2009, 4:48 PM**

I just heard AC ground crew got the contract to handle all of Cathay's flights at YVR, although this happened a while ago. That's huge. So much has changed since I worked there. Anyone know who handles which airlines now? (Servisair, Worldwide, Swiss Port, Air Canada, etc)

Gordon · #**1558** Posted **Jun 24, 2009, 5:18 PM**

Has anyone heard when the Pier C Expansion officially opens, and whether YVR has any plans to upgrade the B Pier which is the oldest part of the airport?

vanman · #**1559** Posted **Jun 24, 2009, 7:48 PM**

There's no way I'll ever fly Air Canada again if this is their new policy towards pets. I'm deathly allergic to all different kinds of animals and I get really bad asthma around cats and dogs. Seems like Air Canada is planning their own demise.

twoNeurons · #**1560** Posted **Jun 24, 2009, 8:11 PM**

@vanman:

I recommend avoiding WestJet. They have had this same pet policy for years... so if you want to travel within Canada... Via Rail perhaps?