The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread - Page 223

kwajo · #**4441** Posted **Jun 8, 2009, 4:51 PM**

Helladog - From looking at the photos you posted (thanks very much by the way) I can't tell which side of the current NBCC building this new Energy Centre will go, any help? Is it right out in front on Grandview Ave?

Helladog · #**4442** Posted **Jun 8, 2009, 10:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwajo

Helladog - From looking at the photos you posted (thanks very much by the way) I can't tell which side of the current NBCC building this new Energy Centre will go, any help? Is it right out in front on Grandview Ave?

It'll be out front, right in front of the gym/cafeteria.

fundygal · #**4443** Posted **Jun 9, 2009, 2:16 AM**

With all the great photos of projects, I just wanted to show how much things have changed in 100 years.

This was taken in 1910.

fundygal · #**4444** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 2:25 PM**

Just curious. I checked out the great blog at http://urbanplans.blogspot.com/ and this pic was there today. Can anyone tell me from what spot was this shot taken?

Won't it be a nice view when the city has all underground wiring some day?

kwajo · #**4445** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 2:43 PM**

That would be looking down Charlotte Street from around the Queen Square area. You should go check out Tin Can Beach some time (at the end of Sydney St.), the view of the harbour is great, especially when ships are coming and going.

Joe · #**4446** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 2:45 PM**

Looks like it was taken from the westside, maybe around Lowell street.

Joe · #**4447** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 3:28 PM**

On second thought I think you're Kwajo. I've never been to Tin Can Beach, have to check it out sometime.

PersonPlaceorThing · #**4448** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 5:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by fundygal

Just curious. I checked out the great blog at http://urbanplans.blogspot.com/ and this pic was there today. Can anyone tell me from what spot was this shot taken? Won't it be a nice view when the city has all underground wiring some day?

Kwajo has it right - Charlotte Street near the corner with Queen. The wires dominate the photo, but didn't really seem so bad in reality.

Burying wires here would be great and could be more affordable when water/sewerage work gets done in the area - I can only imagine what it's costing on Princess Street right now.

PersonPlaceorThing · #**4449** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 6:12 PM**

The stantionary crane at the Market Square expansion site has come down. I guess we won't see three of these in the sky at once this summer. Rocca will need a crane, but they still haven't started site work; anyone know when this development is going up?

homebody · #**4450** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 10:33 PM**

Does anyone know where to find an artist rendering or plans for what the new costco is going to look like. I seem to recall seeing something at one time somewhere but can't remember. I looked at various construction companies websites and found nothing. From what I recall it was in the vacinity of 150,000 sq/ft, and was supposed to be the largest east of Monteal. I think???

kirjtc2 · #**4451** Posted **Jun 13, 2009, 3:00 AM**

Find a picture of any Costco in North America. It'll be the same thing.

Sabien · #**4452** Posted **Jun 13, 2009, 12:44 PM**

There's a site plan on the East Point Shopping website:

http://www.eastpointshopping.ca/

Check the 'Shops & Services' link. Its not an architectural rendering but its something to look at.

Helladog · #**4453** Posted **Jun 14, 2009, 2:48 AM**

Obsolete post

Dmajackson · #**4454** Posted **Jun 14, 2009, 2:56 AM**

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I gave up asking questions about this project some time ago...every time they release a start date, it becomes a lie. I'm glad I never put any money into one of these. I can't imagine what it would be like waiting so long for your condo to be built.

Just ask anybody who lives in the Spice here in Downtown Halifax. It took over three years to build (which in the same time period the sewage plant was built across the street, got commissioned and broke).

expofan · #**4455** Posted **Jun 15, 2009, 3:19 AM**

As an owner of a unit in the Rocca condo's I get updates through email on the status of the project. The last notice they sent, on April 30th, stated "we will be starting the site work phase of the project by the end of June. This means you will be able to occupy your condo by October 2010. "

Now the time table is not unreasonable for them to be finished by next fall, I still expect a few delays but am cautiously optimistic that I will be able to have Christmas in my new place in 2010. They also address that concern in the email with this: "The good news is that even with some unanticipated surprises, we should still be in our condos for Christmas."

Fingers crossed.

SJResident · #**4456** Posted **Jun 15, 2009, 4:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by expofan

As an owner of a unit in the Rocca condo's I get updates through email on the status of the project. The last notice they sent, on April 30th, stated "we will be starting the site work phase of the project by the end of June. This means you will be able to occupy your condo by October 2010. "

Now the time table is not unreasonable for them to be finished by next fall, I still expect a few delays but am cautiously optimistic that I will be able to have Christmas in my new place in 2010. They also address that concern in the email with this: "The good news is that even with some unanticipated surprises, we should still be in our condos for Christmas."

Fingers crossed.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think this might be on Council's agenda tonight. It looks like there maybe an issue with environmental clean-up on a piece of land off Prince William St that the City is supposed to be transferring to Ellerdale. They've requested that the land transfer be pushed back from June to August.

expofan · #**4457** Posted **Jun 15, 2009, 10:22 PM**

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I'm not 100% sure, but I think this might be on Council's agenda tonight. It looks like there maybe an issue with environmental clean-up on a piece of land off Prince William St that the City is supposed to be transferring to Ellerdale. They've requested that the land transfer be pushed back from June to August.

This makes sense as their email also stated: "Also, when the snow cleared and we did the soil tests, we discovered that we need to remove more soil than we originally anticipated. This removal will be done in compliance with applicable environmental regulations."

If this issue is on the council agenda tonight I would not be surprised if more updates were forthcoming soon.

kwajo · #**4458** Posted **Jun 16, 2009, 1:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by expofan

This makes sense as their email also stated: "Also, when the snow cleared and we did the soil tests, we discovered that we need to remove more soil than we originally anticipated. This removal will be done in compliance with applicable environmental regulations."

If this issue is on the council agenda tonight I would not be surprised if more updates were forthcoming soon.

I hope they get built sooner rather than later, not just for the sake of those who have invested in the project by buying condos, but because every project that gets delayed in SJ ends up at least 2 storeys shorter than originally planned, and I would hate to see such a prime piece of land be under-developed.

kwajo · #**4459** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 11:47 AM**

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Saint John resists economic tide, growth forecast this year: report

CBC News

Provincial stimulus spending, tax cuts and a relatively healthy service sector means Saint John will be the only small- or medium-size city in the country to avoid recession this year, the Conference Board of Canada said Tuesday.

After posting real gross domestic product growth of 2.9 per cent last year, Saint John is forecast to post a more modest gain of 0.9 per cent in 2009, the Conference Board said in its look at 27 metropolitan economies.

"The global recession is punishing small and medium-sized [census metropolitan areas] across Canada," said Mario Lefebvre, the director of the Conference Board's centre for municipal studies.

“Saint John is the lone exception. It will lead these cities in economic growth for the second straight year, although its economy is expected to expand by less than one per cent," said Lefebvre.

The other cities included on the Conference Board's list will see economic contraction this year ranging from -0.7 per cent in Trois-Rivières, Que., to -5.6 per cent in Windsor, Ont., which has been battered by the fallout from the auto sector.

Job growth in Saint John is expected to grow by 1.6 per cent this year, as a $1.2-billion provincial spending plan introduced in March offsets slower construction activity.

Tax cuts are expected to push up personal incomes, which will help fuel growth in the city's service sector by about 1.6 per cent, the research group said. Public administration and defence spending growth will also buoy the city's service industries.

Except for some disgustingly petty comments on the CBC website, this is a good article for the city.

PersonPlaceorThing · #**4460** Posted **Jun 17, 2009, 5:22 PM**

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Except for some disgustingly petty comments on the CBC website, this is a good article for the city.

I think this is good news - even though the growth is small and lower than the increases in cost of living (look at rental housing costs and the cost of a home in the city), this sort of news keeps people and developers optimistic.