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Old Posted Jun 12, 2009, 5:53 AM
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Um, yay? lol

I haven't been by there, did they ever bother to change the sign to show the updated rendering?
They did take the old rendering off ....I think....

And yeah, I agree...

um, yay? funny!

I did figure out that the big green light feature will probably only be on the south end facing downtown and the traffic coming up Lavaca. You can see on the new rendering that the light feature extends above the top floor. As they are finishing the rebar on the 8th floor, there are three columns that extend above the roof line on the south end only.... tada!
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2009, 8:53 AM
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Damn! Check out the photos on Statesman.com from the storm.

http://www.statesman.com/ap/mediahub/media/slideshow/index.jsp?tId=108456

They said that inside of a 30 minute time frame last night, there as up to 25,000 lightning strikes around Austin.
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What about that unconfirmed tornado last night?
Photos of the "tornado" a from the local news, News 8 Austin.




Tornado in Northwest Austin, Jollyville,

Photo by: April and Tony Limon.


Possible funnel cloud seen from corner of Anderson Mill and Hwy 183

Photo By: Tim Krauss


Avery Ranch

Photo By: Lindsay Turbeville




Parmer Lane (3), Austin

Photos (3) By: Melissa Pollard

Do you think that this was a true tornado near Loop 1/Research Blvd. 183?
Sorry for the huge picture.
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2009, 4:05 PM
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Crazy! I live in the NW Austin/Cedar Park area, so I did see a definite wall cloud from my house. I believe it to be the forming tornado that touched down in the Jollyville area.

I shot a few pics out my bedroom window. Nothing dramatic like those, but eerie nonetheless.

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What about that unconfirmed tornado last night?
Photos of the "tornado" a from the local news, News 8 Austin.




Tornado in Northwest Austin, Jollyville,

Photo by: April and Tony Limon.


Possible funnel cloud seen from corner of Anderson Mill and Hwy 183

Photo By: Tim Krauss


Avery Ranch

Photo By: Lindsay Turbeville




Parmer Lane (3), Austin

Photos (3) By: Melissa Pollard

Do you think that this was a true tornado near Loop 1/Research Blvd. 183?
Sorry for the huge picture.
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2009, 4:23 PM
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So are you against all subsidization of creativity by government? In any form? Architecture? Parkland?..."Creative Class"..."Keep Austin Weird."...UT..."creative class"...New York City....
I have simply stated (and restated each time another poster claims that I’m saying otherwise) that the City of Austin should assess the potential to adapt and reuse existing assets that the voter/citizens have already paid for, or are in debt to pay for, before initiating any grand new projects such as a new police headquarters building. The reason for this is that we’re already heavily in debt; and the more debt a city or county takes-on, the lower it’s bond rating (= FICO score). When your bond rating goes down, the discount you have to offer to sell your bonds ( = interest rate) goes up. And if the bond market isn’t interested in buying anyone’s bonds with a rating as low as yours, your bonds don’t get sold. So you either have to start paying cash for projects (like a water or sewer project that suddenly becomes an emergency---it happens), or you pay-down your debt to get your bond rating back up so you can sell more bonds. Pixie dust doesn’t work in this situation.

You and other posters have tried to paint me as against parks, which I’ve refuted. I’ve even justified Zilker, Butler, and Republic Square parks with financial and historical arguments in their favor. If you had bothered to read my posting you have replied to I even wrote there “and reasonable parks and recreation facilities are a needed service”. A needed service! Those are my words. And I have not singled-out the “creative class” for anything, especially an attack. I was a well-compensated member of the “creative class” for 15 years (before finding an even greener pasture) and I know how and why that happens. And I was not opposed to Villa Muse, so long as they played by the same rules as everyone else.

I don’t think you can say UT exists because it produces a “creative class”. It exists because the legislature decreed about 135 years ago that it would exist, to enhance the reputation and credibility of the State. Its very un-cool degree programs concentrated on classic liberal (old definition) arts. The “cool” parts came much later as a result of scope-creep, which I’m not opposed to since I took two degrees from one of the cool colleges there.

New York City stopped taxing some classes of non-resident workers six years ago (I stopped following that issue years ago, since deciding I would never want to work there under any circumstances), but continues to tax other non-resident classes. Their rules change every year and with each new court ruling. One recent ruling reads: “The city personal income tax is imposed on the 'city taxable income" of all city residents" (Administrative Code section 11-1701). The term "city taxable income" refers to a resident's "city adjusted gross income less his city deduction(s) and city exemptions" [Administrative Code section 11-171 l(a)|. The section 1127 payment must be computed as if the nonresident employee were a New York City resident and must include, in city taxable income, all income that would have been included if the nonresident employee had been a resident.” It looks like it depends on who you are and what you do and when you did it. And they could easily decide to resume taxing other classes if they wish.

Have you ever heard of a little outfit called American Airlines? How about JC Penney? Both left NYC for the suburbs of Dallas because of taxes. Penney considered White Plains, but decided as long as they were moving they might as well escape the state income tax too. Yes, companies do move from high tax locales to low tax locales because of the taxes.

I’d rather we never need a City of Austin income tax at all.

But did you know that cities in Texas can choose to assess Personal Property Tax on cars, trucks, motorcycles, scooters, boats, campers, motorhomes, and any other non-real(estate) property that requires a title? Yep, they do it in the City of Dallas. You have to pay a tax every year to the city for the privilege of owning a vehicle you paid for, paid state sales tax on, and on which you pay an annual state license fee. Why? Because Dallas wants the money! Why? Because they want to tear-down their perfectly good bridges across the Trinity and replace them with pretty suspension bridges. Why? Because they have the money! And I've already mentioned Dallas' Reunion Arena, which has been torn-down before it was even paid for.

And if you sell you old “Josey and the Pussycats” lunchbox on eBay you’re running a home business which means the city can choose to charge you a Business Property Tax on your personal computer. If you declared a home office with the IRS then the city can tax the fixtures and furnishings --- even the carpet --- because those are assets used in your business. It may only be a few dollars, but you’ll pay it because the trouble to appeal it isn’t worth the few dollars.

Compared to a lot of places I have mentioned, Austin has historically been rather low-tax, but all of that will change if we aren’t aware of our debt level and the need to pay it back. Everything gets paid for sooner or later, but it’s always much more expensive later, and I rather like not having cryptosporidiosis and being able to flush my toilet.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2009, 5:39 PM
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There's a weather, economics, and government forum taking over.

So what we have to do is go back to the Main Purpose of This Thread: Construction Updates. If not, we will simply be


Does anybody know about this Austonian rendering?
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federal courthouse

just got word... "the contract for construction is expected to be awarded on July 31st 2009. Partial notice to proceed shortly after that. Official groundbreaking ceremony is expected either the week of August 10th or August 17th Construction will begin (full notice to proceed – Sept 11, 2009)."
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2009, 6:22 PM
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It will be good to see that empty lot be put to use. The Fed Courthouse is not my first choice for that block, but if they don't go too nuts with security, hopefully it will be okay.
     
     
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Any photos of site prep for the Courthouse?
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Does anyone know anything regarding the T Stacy project??
     
     
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Some pictures from a few days ago








     
     
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Does anyone know anything regarding the T Stacy project??
Welcome to the forum, Austin Rises. I have heard that the office tower would start in late 2009, opening in either late 2011 or early 2010 as stated by Tom Stacy. The main building, the one that will rise approximately 830 feet, will start possibly in 2010 or 2011.

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Some pictures from a few days ago









Nice photos. Great for a just-entered user.
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Thanks AustinSkyscrapers !


Sounds great I am really looking forward to this project rising soon!

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I have heard that the office tower would start in late 2009, opening in either late 2011 or early 2010 as stated by Tom Stacy. The main building, the one that will rise approximately 830 feet, will start possibly in 2010 or 2011.
have the renderings dramatically changed any? or is it still the same?
     
     
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Nah it's still the same. I'm not sure though.

Renderings:


Photo by YahTrickYah57 (Well, pretty much Tom Stacy).



Anyways, what's that funky blue thing on the Bank of America Tower? Part of Tom Stacy's proposed renovation?

Austonian: It has been my guess that the Austonian has platforms on the 50th floor. Eureka?
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Nah it's still the same.

Renderings:


Photo by YahTrickYah57 (Well, pretty much Tom Stacy).



Anyways, what's that funky blue thing on the Bank of America Tower? Part of Tom Stacy's proposed renovation?

Austonian: It has been my guess that the Austonian has platforms on the 50th floor. Eureka?
it's cool. the building is unique and nice. i figured maybe the renderings might've changed a bit and looked a bit more eccentric... this is rendering is very nice.

i thought the blue thing was just glass :o
     
     
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I thought there is another rendering out there. Where the tower has
a twist to it?? It might not be an official rendering though.

I had a chance to view Ashton from a distance, and in my opinion it does make an impact on the Night Skyline. White lines very luxurious if you ask me.

We are definitely progressing!
     
     
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Yes, there is an updated rendering showing a completely different design. The ones above that AustinSksycrapers posted are at least several years old and outdated. They were also showing it when it was supposed to be around 705 feet tall with 47 floors.

Here are the new ones:



These thumbnail images below are drawings that Goothrey and priller did.


Drawings by Goothrey


Drawings by priller
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I have simply stated (and restated each time another poster claims that I’m saying otherwise) that the City of Austin should assess the potential to adapt and reuse existing assets that the voter/citizens have already paid for, or are in debt to pay for, before initiating any grand new projects such as a new police headquarters building. The reason for this is that we’re already heavily in debt; and the more debt a city or county takes-on, the lower it’s bond rating (= FICO score). When your bond rating goes down, the discount you have to offer to sell your bonds ( = interest rate) goes up. And if the bond market isn’t interested in buying anyone’s bonds with a rating as low as yours, your bonds don’t get sold. So you either have to start paying cash for projects (like a water or sewer project that suddenly becomes an emergency---it happens), or you pay-down your debt to get your bond rating back up so you can sell more bonds. Pixie dust doesn’t work in this situation.

You and other posters have tried to paint me as against parks, which I’ve refuted. I’ve even justified Zilker, Butler, and Republic Square parks with financial and historical arguments in their favor. If you had bothered to read my posting you have replied to I even wrote there “and reasonable parks and recreation facilities are a needed service”. A needed service! Those are my words. And I have not singled-out the “creative class” for anything, especially an attack. I was a well-compensated member of the “creative class” for 15 years (before finding an even greener pasture) and I know how and why that happens. And I was not opposed to Villa Muse, so long as they played by the same rules as everyone else.

I don’t think you can say UT exists because it produces a “creative class”. It exists because the legislature decreed about 135 years ago that it would exist, to enhance the reputation and credibility of the State. Its very un-cool degree programs concentrated on classic liberal (old definition) arts. The “cool” parts came much later as a result of scope-creep, which I’m not opposed to since I took two degrees from one of the cool colleges there.

New York City stopped taxing some classes of non-resident workers six years ago (I stopped following that issue years ago, since deciding I would never want to work there under any circumstances), but continues to tax other non-resident classes. Their rules change every year and with each new court ruling. One recent ruling reads: “The city personal income tax is imposed on the 'city taxable income" of all city residents" (Administrative Code section 11-1701). The term "city taxable income" refers to a resident's "city adjusted gross income less his city deduction(s) and city exemptions" [Administrative Code section 11-171 l(a)|. The section 1127 payment must be computed as if the nonresident employee were a New York City resident and must include, in city taxable income, all income that would have been included if the nonresident employee had been a resident.” It looks like it depends on who you are and what you do and when you did it. And they could easily decide to resume taxing other classes if they wish.

Have you ever heard of a little outfit called American Airlines? How about JC Penney? Both left NYC for the suburbs of Dallas because of taxes. Penney considered White Plains, but decided as long as they were moving they might as well escape the state income tax too. Yes, companies do move from high tax locales to low tax locales because of the taxes.

I’d rather we never need a City of Austin income tax at all.

But did you know that cities in Texas can choose to assess Personal Property Tax on cars, trucks, motorcycles, scooters, boats, campers, motorhomes, and any other non-real(estate) property that requires a title? Yep, they do it in the City of Dallas. You have to pay a tax every year to the city for the privilege of owning a vehicle you paid for, paid state sales tax on, and on which you pay an annual state license fee. Why? Because Dallas wants the money! Why? Because they want to tear-down their perfectly good bridges across the Trinity and replace them with pretty suspension bridges. Why? Because they have the money! And I've already mentioned Dallas' Reunion Arena, which has been torn-down before it was even paid for.

And if you sell you old “Josey and the Pussycats” lunchbox on eBay you’re running a home business which means the city can choose to charge you a Business Property Tax on your personal computer. If you declared a home office with the IRS then the city can tax the fixtures and furnishings --- even the carpet --- because those are assets used in your business. It may only be a few dollars, but you’ll pay it because the trouble to appeal it isn’t worth the few dollars.

Compared to a lot of places I have mentioned, Austin has historically been rather low-tax, but all of that will change if we aren’t aware of our debt level and the need to pay it back. Everything gets paid for sooner or later, but it’s always much more expensive later, and I rather like not having cryptosporidiosis and being able to flush my toilet.
You're blowin' smoke!

The City of Austin has one of the best bond ratings of any City in the US. You can't finance for less than the City. All rapidly growing cities need to go in debt to some degree to keep up with the growth. There are a lot of up front costs to the City with all of the development going on, but the revenue from the increased tax base comes in the future, so you have to bridge that gap somehow. The City is very conservative with how they manage that debt, which is how they got an A++ rating that allows them to finance at such low cost.
     
     
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Yes, there is an updated rendering showing a completely different design. The ones above that AustinSksycrapers posted are at least several years old and outdated. They were also showing it when it was supposed to be around 705 feet tall with 47 floors.

Here are the new ones:



These thumbnail images below are drawings that Goothrey and priller did.


Drawings by Goothrey


Drawings by priller
But hey, any like official rendering came out yet? There is basically no news. Well, thanks for the intel Kevin, and thanks to Goothrey and priller for the model making.
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