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Overground · #**6261** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 4:19 PM**

It's more like 800m and uphill in portions too.

DKaz · #**6262** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 4:28 PM**

I think 10 minutes is the maximum threshold the average person is willing to walk to/from public transit, with a preference down to 5 minutes.

WarrenC12 · #**6263** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 4:34 PM**

Yep, you're all lazy.

mr.x · #**6264** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 5:22 PM**

The writer fails to realize that the Canada Line was meant to replace the 98 B-Line long before the first shovel went into the ground. The B-Line is the precursor to rail transit in this region.

Granted, i do sympathize their situation as it will no doubt take longer. But i have a feeling we'll see the 98 return in the near future...

Gordon · #**6265** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 5:31 PM**

The 98B Line will be considered to be a redundant service once the Canada Lines is in service. The buses on the 98 will likely be deployed on the new B line type service in Surrey.

deasine · #**6266** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 6:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gordon

The 98B Line will be considered to be a redundant service once the Canada Lines is in service. The buses on the 98 will likely be deployed on the new B line type service in Surrey.

They'll probably be retrofited the INIT system, removing the stupid Siemens OnStreet system on the 98 B-Lines.

racc · #**6267** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 7:14 PM**

Sadly in this region, the problem is not transit demand, it is transit supply. While undoubtedly, the service for some people will be a bit worse as a result of the direct bus routes being replaced by the Canada Line, the transit service for these people will still be much better than the service in many other parts of the region. While ideally, money and transit service would be unlimited, for now, sadly it is not. Some of these people might drive instead of using transit. The buses are far more desperately needed to improve service in other parts of the region providing many others with an alternative to driving.

twoNeurons · #**6268** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 7:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gordon

The 98B Line will be considered to be a redundant service once the Canada Lines is in service. The buses on the 98 will likely be deployed on the new B line type service in Surrey.

The 98 B-Line serves Granville. The Canada Line serves the Cambie Corridor. They're quite far from each other.

A bus down #2 Road in Richmond, continuing down Granville and perhaps across the Burrard Street Bridge (turning left at 16th) would be a good service, connecting Richmond with the Granville corridor and Granville with the Burrard St. corridor.

I can also see an extension of the Canada Line west along Granville (in Richmond) and then following the Railway alignment South to Steveston... but not for a while.

raggedy13 · #**6269** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 8:32 PM**

Translink will probably be watching rejigged routes very closely once the Canada Line opens. I'm sure there will be some tweaking if there is enough public outcry over certain routes.

DKaz · #**6270** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 8:51 PM**

The trolley service #8 will do the job on Granville, it'll be a big slower but hey we like trolleys.

quobobo · #**6271** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 9:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

The trolley service #8 will do the job on Granville, it'll be a big slower but hey we like trolleys.

Do we? I don't. They get detached from the overhead wires fairly frequently, and they're slower than the diesels (trolley drivers never seem to go quite as fast and their acceleration is frequently glacial, presumably to avoid problem #1).

WarrenC12 · #**6272** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 9:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by quobobo

Do we? I don't. They get detached from the overhead wires fairly frequently, and they're slower than the diesels (trolley drivers never seem to go quite as fast and their acceleration is frequently glacial, presumably to avoid problem #1).

Are you kidding? the new trolleys have crazy low end torque (all electric motors do). They take off pretty quick.

quobobo · #**6273** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 9:07 PM**

"presumably to avoid problem #1"

I don't doubt that they can, but I notice a lot of drivers accelerating very slowly in the trolleys.

agrant · #**6274** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 9:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by WBC

The residents of West Richmond and North America in general should maybe finally realize what the rest of the world has realized a long time ago - that living in a densely populated areas next to a mass-transit line is desired, increases your property value and improves your life and that living on the edge of the city away from the crowds has its price.

I've heard that living close is good for property value, but living really close (within a block or so) decreases the value. I could be mistaken, but that's what a seemingly knowledgeable person on the radio said about 6 months ago.

Whalleyboy · #**6275** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 9:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

I think 10 minutes is the maximum threshold the average person is willing to walk to/from public transit, with a preference down to 5 minutes.

I think your 100% right on this
my girlfriends gets me to pick her up from king george all the time and i live just a little over 5 min walk from there

DKaz · #**6276** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 9:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Whalleyboy

my girlfriends

Girlfriends? You dawg.

DKaz · #**6277** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 9:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by quobobo

"presumably to avoid problem #1"

I don't doubt that they can, but I notice a lot of drivers accelerating very slowly in the trolleys.

They have to take it a bit slow through intersections with other trolley wires to avoid 'dewiring' although the new trolleybuses can probably go 30 to 40km/h vs. 20km/h with the old trolleys. Otherwise they're very quick when taking off. They can really zoom off from a bus stop or stop light if it's all clear, and they're especially good at climbing hills compared to diesels.

teriyaki · #**6278** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

They have to take it a bit slow through intersections with other trolley wires to avoid 'dewiring' although the new trolleybuses can probably go 30 to 40km/h vs. 20km/h with the old trolleys. Otherwise they're very quick when taking off. They can really zoom off from a bus stop or stop light if it's all clear, and they're especially good at climbing hills compared to diesels.

Agreed, they're slower when crossing big intersections because of the gradient difference but man can those things take-off. The torque on those electric trolleys they have is incredible.

Gordon · #**6279** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 11:05 PM**

The service on the Granville trolley route is going to be substantially increased, but those plans are apparently still to be finalized.

As far as the Richmond route replacements due to the opening of The Canada Line We could see some sort of express services as happened after the inception of the 98 B Line.

metroXpress · #**6280** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 11:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by WBC

The residents of West Richmond and North America in general should maybe finally realize what the rest of the world has realized a long time ago - that living in a densely populated areas next to a mass-transit line is desired, increases your property value and improves your life and that living on the edge of the city away from the crowds has its price.

Yes