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Old Posted Jun 3, 2009, 3:42 AM
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Most of those areas in the Liberty Park pictures were not covered with mobs of people. Therefore, they are underutilized and should have a Public Safety building constructed there. Worthless, lazy parks, not living up to there full potential as buildings.

Scottharding, what are you talking about?? Liberty Park may get a little shabby in areas--it is a big park with aging infrastructure--but it is far from having seen 'better days'. The park is immensely popular. I drove by on 500 East last Saturday afternoon, and was struck not only by how beautiful the park is, but by how full it was. There was hardly a parking space to be seen, and the running and walking paths were full of people getting exercise and taking a stroll. It was a beautiful scene, which reminded me how much I love this city. We may use the park differently than in the days of big brass bands, but we still use the park, and the infrastructure is being updated constantly.
     
     
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I didn't mean to imply that the park was run down or anything. Like I said, I love liberty park, but like many parts of the city, it's not the destination it once was. Similar to the ways we lament the loss of the old Salt Palace at Pioneer park. It's still a beautiful, functional park, but it's a shadow of its former self.
     
     
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I didn't mean to imply that the park was run down or anything. Like I said, I love liberty park, but like many parts of the city, it's not the destination it once was. Similar to the ways we lament the loss of the old Salt Palace at Pioneer park. It's still a beautiful, functional park, but it's a shadow of its former self.
Of course when your grandpa was younger, Liberty Park was essentially the central park of not just Salt Lake City, but the entire Wasatch Front. That has changed.

I wouldn't even call it a shadow of its former self. It's probably, outside of SugarHouse, the most popular park in Salt Lake. Sure, it could be a bit more vibrant, but compared to what it was in the 90s, it's doing pretty well.
     
     
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Speaking of liberty Park... I was down there this morning doing some utility work and mapping for the Tracy Aviary portion of the park (left by 11:30 am though). The park was fairly busy the early morning hours, but towards lunch it started to die down. bikers, joggers, rollerbladers, walkers, people walking their dogs...etc...

I left the park with a good impression that it was fairly well used.
     
     
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Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker will announce where he thinks proposed public safet

So it looks like the Mayor (Ralph Becker) will announce where he thinks proposed public safety buildings should go on Wednesday.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=6691322

While I think that the east side of 300 East might be the better option, I'm not going to throw a fit if the buildings end up on Library Square.
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Liberty Park is WAY happenin. I personally like it better than Sugarhouse Park. You'll see so many joggers and rollerbladers you'll feel like its 1995! We ride bikes, BBQ, see what the hippies have for sale (and I don't mean dope) and watch the dogs and ducks play. So we don't ride the ferris wheel- who would want to ride that tiny rickety thing any way? I don't get too wild about birds, but even Tracy Aviary is pretty cool! Well kept, an entetaining bird show, and some crazy ass Kookaburas! I think Liberty is plenty vibrant and a jewel SLC can boast about- you won't find its equal anywhere along the Wasatch Front.
     
     
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Salt Lake City Becomes The Mountain West Gateway
To Asia ~



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SLC a 'jewel' of Tokyo service
Much fanfare to accompany first nonstop trans-Pacific flights to, from Utah.

...To increase the significance of this new route, Delta's Cortelyou,(Senior Vice President) said the airline
will introduce domestic flights into Salt Lake City from 11 new U.S. cities on Thursday, in addition to adding nine flights
from existing sites.

"We're excited about the connection potential," he said. "It's part of our overall strategy of a strong Salt Lake City hub.
It's working out well. Salt Lake will be the crown jewel of our Tokyo service."




by Mike Gorrell
The Salt Lake Tribune



The first travelers on Delta Air Lines' new nonstop trans-Pacific flight will arrive in Salt Lake City this morning, four
hours before they left Tokyo.

If it were ski season, they could still get in a half day on the slopes.

No matter what the season, the very notion that somebody can get on a plane in Tokyo and get off in Salt Lake City
without any stops in between -- and vice versa -- is a source of jubilation for state economic development officials
and the companies likely to benefit from this one-and-only direct connection between the Intermountain West and Asia.

"This flight, coming on the heels of the nonstop to Paris, solidifies Utah as a significant hub for Delta," Jason Perry,
executive director of the Governor's Office of Economic Development, said Tuesday. "It's a huge vote of confidence
in the state of Utah's ability to put people on a plane and get out globally. It highlights the increased sophistication
of the state."

Perry's enthusiasm was echoed by Bob Cortelyou, a senior vice president over Delta's network of interconnecting
flights.

"Denver doesn't have a flight to Tokyo or anywhere in Asia," Cortelyou emphasized. "That makes Salt Lake the gateway
to Asia for the whole Intermountain West ... It's a very envious position to be in."

This far-reaching occasion will be marked with considerable fanfare today.

When Flight 4260 lands around 11:30 a.m. at Salt Lake City International Airport, it will be greeted with a water cannon
salute from Airport Authority fire trucks. The news media will be assembled to interview disembarking passengers after
they clear U.S. Customs checks.

Four Utah women of Japanese descent will perform a traditional Japanese dance in conjunction with a ribbon-cutting at
Gate D-6, the airport's boarding point for the first Utahns making the 11-hour, 50-minute flight to Tokyo's Narita airport
(the Tokyo-to-Salt Lake flight is an hour shorter because of tail winds; crossing the international dateline accounts for
the arrival time in Salt Lake preceding the departure time from Tokyo).

Another water cannon salute will be offered as Flight 4261 taxis to the runway at 1:30 p.m., ready to carry Perry and
a delegation of Utah business and government leaders to Japan for a whirlwind goodwill mission.

"It's absolutely essential to establish the right relationships and set the right tone" for future contacts, said Perry.

"As we start introducing our businesses to Japan and Asia, going with the official state seal as the entrée carries a lot
of weight," he said.

Spencer Eccles, chairman of the Salt Lake Chamber's international business committee, said the direct flights to Tokyo
-- plus Delta connections from there to 14 other major Asian cities -- "cuts substantial travel time and adds a great
deal of convenience for company representatives who want to do business in Utah."

That's critical for Utah's economy, which has experienced a 31 percent growth in overall export trade in the past year,
Eccles said. Last year, Japan was Utah's fourth largest export destination in Asia, seventh overall, receiving $376 million
worth of goods.

Increasing imports is an even bigger goal, imports in the form of tourists and skiers. Right off the plane, Utah's delegation
will host a luncheon in a downtown Tokyo hotel for tour-group operators, airline booking agents and ski-trip organizers,
touting the state's abundant and diverse recreation resources.

"We will show slide shows and videos about the state, its national and state parks, golfing and skiing opportunities
-- everything that would make you want to come here as a tourist," said Perry, whose ace-in-the-hole will be Yuichiro
Miura, the first man to ski down Mount Everest, and owner of a Park City home. "He has celebrity status over there."

Ski Utah President Nathan Rafferty will be there as well, hopeful the nonstop flight will help the state's 13 active resorts
make inroads into Asia.

"Although Japan has not been a significant market for the Utah ski industry, the two destinations do share an Olympic
legacy [Nagano hosted the 1998 Winter Games, Salt Lake City the 2002] and a passion for skiing," he said.

To increase the significance of this new route, Delta's Cortelyou said the airline will introduce domestic flights into Salt
Lake City from 11 new U.S. cities on Thursday, in addition to adding nine flights from existing sites.

"We're excited about the connection potential," he said. "It's part of our overall strategy of a strong Salt Lake City hub.
It's working out well. Salt Lake will be the crown jewel of our Tokyo service."


Building tourism from Japan
The Utah Board of Tourism Development allocated $400,000 to promote Delta's direct flight to Tokyo.

"While Japan is a mature market and we have been marketing in the country for over 20 years, this direct flight will
make us more competitive," said Leigh von der Esch, managing director of the Utah Office of Tourism.

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That is so exciting to hear, within just a year our International Airport has gone from serving Canada and Mexico to also serving Paris and Tokyo, that's pretty impressive. Those combined with the increase in connector flights really is great news for SLC International.

As for Liberty Park. I wouldn't say it isn't vibrant and active. I live one block away and I absolutely love it. No matter what time of day I drive or walk by it is busy with people, running, bladeing, and just enjoying the park for what it has to offer. The beauty of the park is that because of it's size and location, it can accommodate a very diverse crowd with very diverse likes. For instance on Sunday's there is of course the drum circle which everyone knows about, but I realized that a local DJ sets up shop at the north end on Sundays and plays house music for a few hours. I've seen a few people some weeks and larger groups other weeks.

The park is very active and the city is doing a lot to upkeep it. Speaking of crown jewels, Liberty Park is the Crown Jewel of SLC parks.
     
     
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I was there at lunchtime yesterday (12:30 PM) and was struck by how many people were there for the middle of a weekday.

I love Liberty Park but for some reason, Sugarhouse Park just doesn't do anything for me. I'd much rather spend time at Liberty Park.
     
     
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Salt Lake City Mayor Becker rules out cop shop on Library Square

Salt Lake City Mayor Becker rules out cop shop on Library Square

By Rosemary Winters

The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 06/03/2009 09:44:47 AM MDT
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12509614

Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker announced Wednesday morning that he is scrapping hotly disputed plans to build a $125 million public-safety complex on downtown's Library Square.

Instead, the mayor will focus on other locations for a five-story police headquarters and three-story emergency-operations center, possibly east of 300 east, across the street from the city's showcase Main Library, or at the nearby Ken Garff property or Chamber of Commerce block.

Becker said his office received 400 comments on his "preferred" Library Square site, most of them against it.

"Today, I'm announcing that the public-safety complex will not be on Library Square," he said.
     
     
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I'm glad to see that the mayor has listened and is considering other options.

Why does the Tribune keep calling the public safety complex a "cop shop" in their articles?? Its about the same as if they referred to homeless shelters as "hobo factories" or something. Completely unprofessional.
     
     
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Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker announced Wednesday morning that he is scrapping hotly disputed plans to build a $125 million public-safety complex on downtown's Library Square.


Becker said his office received 400 comments on his "preferred" Library Square site, most of them against it.

"Today, I'm announcing that the public-safety complex will not be on Library Square," he said.

Good, maybe now we can move on to the next stage and maybe all the whining will stop. But watch, once the Mayor finds another location for the "Cop shop" people will find something to whine about that also and then we will be right back when we started.

I do like the idea of having it on the Ken Garff property, but do you really think the dealership will sell the land? Also I don't preferred the idea of the Chamber of Commerce block since we could get a 30+ story building there, not just a five-story police building.
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Good, maybe now we can move on to the next stage and maybe all the whining will stop. But watch, once the Mayor finds another location for the "Cop shop" people will find something to whine about that also and then we will be right back when we started.
I don't understand why you insist that people simply want to bitch about things. I don't think location will be a huge issue anymore, raising taxes through the bond maybe, but not location. I don't really that even a tiny percentage of the people that opposed this location will have issue with other locations. Yes there will always be those opposed to it, because it is in their neighborhood or it effects their property directly. The opposition to Library Square is completely different than any other location will be.

While I'm not a big fan of it going on the Chamber block I won't necessarily fight it going there like I did Library Square. Ken Garff, Chamber, Burger King, 600 S, 7-11, or east side of 300 E. Every one of those locations has issues and could potentially be used more effectively in the future but I won't have a problem with any of those, and I'm estimating that 95% of those opposed to Library Square won't either.

But then again I'm more of a glass half full kind of guy and you tend to view this whole process as glass half empty. I app lade the fact that whether simply a political move or if the Mayor truly wanted it on Library Square, he showed that he is willing to listen to the public opinion, after all that's who he is there to represent.
     
     
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This is a great article regarding a bunch of new restaurants in the city. If we want to have a walkable, vibrant city I suggest that the next time any of us go out to eat, even if you live in the burb, that we should all choose one of the great new places on this list. Supporting these restaurants and their owners will show that SLC appreciates locally owned businesses and that higher end, (cost and or atmosphere) as well as casual dining establishments do and will continue to flourish in SLC.

Dollars and dining: How new restaurants are weathering the recession

The restaurant business is challenging in any economy. In the midst of a recession and downtown Salt Lake construction projects, the risks are even higher.

Yet a handful of independent eateries have sprung up in the last few months. Most aren't the traditional large, sit-down restaurant with a menu spanning several pages. Instead, the newcomers are experimenting with strategies to help them survive, and even thrive in the current economy.

In fact, some owners say the empty buildings, cost-conscious customers and lessened competition work in their favor.

Who knows which of these will be around in five years? Meanwhile, they are spicing up the local dining scene.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705308100/How-restaurants-weather-recessions.html?pg=1
     
     
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I don't understand why you insist that people simply want to bitch about things.

Because they do. Simple as that.

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But then again I'm more of a glass half full kind of guy and you tend to view this whole process as "glass half empty".

LOL. Me half empty? Remember I didn't care where the buildings went. All the people who were bitching are the glass half empty.
First they complained about the price tag of the project.
Now that it's cheaper, now people are complaining about the location. If it's not one thing it's another.
I try to find the good out of every project even if it would of gone on the Library Square, while there's tons of people on here and everywhere that go out of there way to find something wrong with it. That sounds half empty to me. For once can't we just point out the "good" and not the "bad"
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Holding offers Salt Lake County property for new convention center

Holding offers Salt Lake County property for new convention center
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Published: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 11:11 p.m. MDT
The perpetual parking lot may actually be developed.

Representatives of Earl Holding, owner of the Grand America and Little America hotels, Sinclair Oil and the Snowbasin and Sun Valley ski resorts, have told Salt Lake County officials they would grant a long-term, virtually no-cost lease on their 10-acre Block 40 property, and three acres on Block 39, if the county would consider building a new convention center there in lieu of partnering in a hotel project near the Salt Palace.

The properties are currently paved parking lots directly north of Holding's two hotels, between the Matheson Courthouse on the east and West Temple on the west.

Read the whole article at http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705308200/Holding-offers-land-to-county.html

Having worked in the marketing dept for the Grand America Hotel, and having sat in on many meetings last time a 1,000 room hotel was proposed near the Salt Palace, I know Holding will lobby hard to prevent that hotel from being built.
     
     
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That's interesting. This is just my opinion, but I don't really see the county building a new convention center, especially considering the money that has been invested in the Salt Palace in the last 15-20 years.

It's not as if Holding is being generous by offering the low rate lease. Hey Earl maybe you shouldn't have been such a jack ass about not allowing the city to purchase your property to the south for the RSL Stadium. The stadium there would have helped your hotel business and then the threat of a new 1,000 room hotel wouldn't have been nearly as big of a deal. ASS!

I hope the county does enter into negotiations to build a 1,000 room hotel on or nearby the Salt Palace property.
     
     
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That's interesting. This is just my opinion, but I don't really see the county building a new convention center, especially considering the money that has been invested in the Salt Palace in the last 15-20 years.

It's not as if Holding is being generous by offering the low rate lease. Hey Earl maybe you shouldn't have been such a jack ass about not allowing the city to purchase your property to the south for the RSL Stadium. The stadium there would have helped your hotel business and then the threat of a new 1,000 room hotel wouldn't have been nearly as big of a deal. ASS!

I hope the county does enter into negotiations to build a 1,000 room hotel on or nearby the Salt Palace property.
Not only do I not see the county building a new convention center there, I don't think it's a particularly good location for it. And that location only benefits one man.

The current location is much better across from the City Creek Center with its shops and restaurants for conventioneers.

Also, 13 acres doesn't seem like enough land for a new convention center considering the current Salt Palace must cover at least 30 acres.
     
     
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Not only do I not see the county building a new convention center there, I don't think it's a particularly good location for it. And that location only benefits one man.

The current location is much better across from the City Creek Center with its shops and restaurants for conventioneers.

Also, 13 acres doesn't seem like enough land for a new convention center considering the current Salt Palace must cover at least 30 acres.

Not to mention it's proximity to all the other hotel, gateway and ESA. Maybe if Rio Tinto was at that end of town there might be a better reason to build it there. ASS

You're right about the size, the CLRSPCC takes up about 2 1/2 blocks now, not sure how that is suppose to be smashed onto 1 1/3 blocks.
     
     
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The whole thing sounds so bizarre to me. The Palace needs an adj., major hotel w/additional exibition space to continue to compete with cities such as Vegas, and San Diego. Would this be a deal breaker for Salt Lake in being able to get the mega convention hotel off the ground as soon as possible? I would like to hear the answers to allot of questions I have right now... this is just way to bizarre.
     
     
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