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Old Posted May 26, 2009, 4:28 AM
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the things people on this forum 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 about... god... lol
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2009, 4:52 AM
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I like how the millennium and expo line have different colour symbols but are still the same
also i find it funny how there like the ones on google maps
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2009, 7:27 AM
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where can they install tv screens on buses, and will the canada line ever get screens inside trains...
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2009, 4:01 PM
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It's good to see that they have installed better signs, but I'm sorry: that's the cheapest way I've seen them try to install signs... EVER. They could've just mounted boards on the column...
I like the painted columns. That is the exact area and level your eyes will be at when the doors open and you're getting off the train.

Transit needs to be cheap and efficient.
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2009, 4:19 PM
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Question - are the two platforms at Waterfront (each side of the centre platform) now dedicated for each of the M-Line and the Expo Line?
The signage suggests that but I can't quite tell.
i.e. the trains previously reversed to the east of Waterfront Station - however, there are switches to the west of Waterfront Station that could easily be used to direct a train to stop at (and reverse from) a particular platform rather than using the tail track.

Edit - this pic only shows one arrow, so I think the tail track is still being used.
the last 2 times i have taken the skytrain to Waterfront, the train stopped dead west of the station and waited a few minutes for the EB track to clear, then used the western switch to go to that platform and let passengers off, despite the south side track being completely clear. it was really bizarre and quite annoying too
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2009, 4:34 PM
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the last 2 times i have taken the skytrain to Waterfront, the train stopped dead west of the station and waited a few minutes for the EB track to clear, then used the western switch to go to that platform and let passengers off, despite the south side track being completely clear. it was really bizarre and quite annoying too
They were doing work in the tail tracks for a week which is why trains couldn't go back there to switch.
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2009, 5:38 PM
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I was in Waterfront station yesterday noon there was at train on the right hand track as you enter the platorm from the Howe street enterance.

I would suspect that it had just unloaded,I think all departures are still from the Left hand track.

Does any know if the new cars have gone into service yet?
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2009, 6:35 PM
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Thanks for the info.
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 2:32 AM
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Automated 'clang' added to Coast Mountain Bus repertoire of auditory prompts


By Gerry Bellett, Vancouver Sun
May 26, 2009 7:10 PM


“Clang, clang, clang went the trolley, ding, ding, ding went the bell, zing, zing, zing went my heartstrings as we started for Huntington Dell....”

The beginning of The Trolley Song famously sung by Judy Garland.

METRO VANCOUVER — There isn’t a Huntington Dell stop on any of the Coast Mountain Bus Company’s routes, but these days there’s plenty of clanging and dinging — zinging, alas, isn’t provided.

A month ago the bus company introduced an automated “clang” — reminiscent of an old trolley bell — to its repertoire of auditory prompts for passengers.

It sounds out ahead of that unearthly female voice that calls out the stops the bus is approaching in an ingratiating, android-like tone that seems to express constant surprise at getting it right.

The clang is a pre-warning that a stop is about to be announced, which gives a heads-up to blind and handicapped people waiting for their stop.

TransLink’s Drew Snider said Tuesday it replaces the “ding” that the bus company had initially used but discarded because it was too close to the “ding” that sounds when commuters pull the cord or press the button to get off at the next stop.

“It was getting a bit confusing,” Snider admitted.

The whole business of clangs and dings and automated voices is the result of bus drivers not wanting to announce stops, said Rob Sleath, chair of Access for Sight Impaired Consumers and a member of TransLink’s transit user advisory committee.

“We’ve tried for years to get drivers to announce stops,” said Sleath, who is visually impaired. “There were a handful of drivers who did a beautiful job of calling them out, but most rarely did it.”

Blind people on a bus have no idea where they are and need help to disembark at the right stop, he said.

“We’d ask the driver to call out our stop, but if they didn’t, we were the ones with the problem,” said Sleath who helps train new transit drivers on how to deal with blind and handicapped people.

Two years ago Coast Mountain placed a GPS system on its buses and Sleath’s organization asked if an automated system for announcing the stops in advance could be built into it.

“They agreed, but we then found that just calling out the name of the stop would catch some people by surprise, so we asked if they could install a chime sound just before to warn people a stop was being called,” said Sleath.

Again Coast Mountain complied, but the chime was too similar to the one that sounds out when a commuter asks for the next stop and was causing confusion for drivers, he said.

So back to the sounding board.

“There were a whole range of sounds available and we suggested the drivers pick the one they wanted, but for some reason they wouldn’t make a decision,” Sleath explained. “In the end Coast Mountain asked us to choose one and we picked the trolley sound. It’s what people old enough to remember the old street cars in Vancouver would have heard.”

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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 2:47 AM
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I absolutely hate the new "clang" sound. It really does its job of alerting people, it annoys me everytime it goes off. I was hoping it would be a temporary sound until they chose a less obnoxious sound, guess i'm out of luck. So much for sleeping on my commutes to school now.
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 2:50 AM
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They should reduce the volume for the "clang" a bit as it seems to be much much louder than the announcement itself. Sometimes, I'm actually missing the first half of the announcement because of the large volume difference...
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 5:51 AM
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I noticed too... the new sound just sounds like the flat version of the old one. Disgusting.

Maybe they can use the sound on the MKI cars when they announce a stop?
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 5:56 AM
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Now all we need is a pre-clang warning, so that people can plug their ears before it comes on.
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 6:00 AM
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Maybe they can use the sound on the MKI cars when they announce a stop?
The "doo-doo"?

I'm not looking forward to hearing the new sound when I return in August... no undisturbed naps, I guess
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 6:29 AM
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The "doo-doo"?

I'm not looking forward to hearing the new sound when I return in August... no undisturbed naps, I guess
No just the "ding"
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 9:07 AM
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No just the "ding"
Oooh!!! Excellent suggestion. Somebody email Jennifer and TL stat!
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 5:35 PM
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I love the clang! The ding was very confusing indeed.
Also the volume levels seem to differ by driver/bus. Sometimes the whole clang/announcement/ding is barely audible, and sometimes they are very loud.
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 6:10 PM
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I like all of the inferences in the article to how incompetent the drivers are at completing simple tasks.
     
     
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Old Posted May 28, 2009, 5:24 PM
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Some of the information from the bus driver's website that I originally posted seems not to be correct the 12% 10 minute headway number is actually 25%(now26%onthe more buses now website) and the 58% number for Montreal & Toronto may well be for TTC & STM routes only not the 14 &13 systems respectivley that service hte total metroplaitan areas.
     
     
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Old Posted May 29, 2009, 1:38 AM
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Here's a random thought I had today. How hard would it be to add an extra platform/track to Edmonds station on the side? If they did that then won't they be able to run the Waterfront<->Metrotown(or in this case Edmonds) shuttle runs that they wanted to? I doubt it would cost that much and the benefit would probably be enough to justifty it.
     
     
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