The Great Canadian Skyline Thread!

[caltrane74]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

We're talking about skyline you twit, not entire cities. The CBD of Chicago is far more massive than the CBD of Toronto in any way. Once you get out of the CBD Tononto has FAR more highrises, but that is not what we were talking about at all.

And you said that without the CN tower Toronto would just look like Chicago (Among a host of other cities) However that is not true as Chicago's skyline is set apart by its architecture which in my opinion and many others is second to none. If you took away the CN tower Toronto would not look like Chicago in any way, nor would it look nearly as recognizable.

Toronto's skyline is not just composed of a CBD, its also got lots of residentials outside the main business area, going to the west, east and north and now even to the south...

Without the CN Tower, and the Skydome, Toronto is just a mass of angluar boxy point towers of varying hieghts, something very similar to chicago.... unless you're able to point out other major differences..

The lines are the same, even if the context of hieght is removed.

Chicago



--mike-- at www.flickr.com

Toronto



infiniteblue at www.flickr.com

[habfanman]

Hopefully Seattle will read this page and realise that they have a serious skyline gap going on. They can flatten whatever neighbourhoods are creating this shortcoming and get some good filler happening. Maybe tear down the Space Needle and install a supertall in place of the fairgrounds, then bolster that with some strategically-placed infill condos which will give them a double-cluster, density enhanced, multi-clump when viewed on the internet from various angles.

Don't they have any intelligent planners out there?

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

Toronto's skyline is not just composed of a CBD, its also got lots of residentials outside the main business area, going to the west, east and north and now even to the south...

Thanks champ, I lived in Toronto for several years and I am quite familiar with the layout of the city. Yorkville/Yonge corridor and the Cityplace lands are not comparable to the density or height of Chicago's downtown, so it remains my facts were straight and Chicago's downtown blows Toronto's out of the water.

Without the CN Tower, and the Skydome, Toronto is just a mass of angluar boxy point towers of varying hieghts, something very similar to chicago.... unless you're able to point out other major differences..

"Just a mass of boxy point towers of varying heights" .... congratulations you just described a skyline.

If you cant see the differences between Chicago's skyline and Toronto's skyline then this discussion is as pointless as your many repetitive, exclamation point filled contributions to this forum.

[habfanman]

Chicago needs to hire a guy to walk around and view the skyline from various angles. He could report back to the planning department who could then order buildings to be placed in strategic locations in order to address any skyline gaps. They may have to pave over the Chicago River and rip out all of their bridges but hey.. who cares what it looks like on the ground!

[koops65]

Although I am unhappy to admit it, Chicago does have a far superior skyline than Toronto does. Here are some simple numbers to consider:

Number of Built and U/C buildings over 500 feet
Chicago - 107
Toronto - 26

Number of Built and U/C buildings over 400 feet
Chicago - 192
Toronto - 72

Number of Built and U/C buildings over 300 feet
Chicago - 349
Toronto - 216

These numbers are from the SSP database.

[LeftCoaster]

Habfan, As much as I appreciate the sarcasm, this is the skyline thread so perhaps it is misplaced?

[habfanman]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Habfan, As much as I appreciate the sarcasm, this is the skyline thread so perhaps it is misplaced?

True, true.. just having some fun! I'll let you get back to the bulky issue at hand.

BTW, Chicago rocks. I've walked around that city for hours on end and it's Heaven for anyone who appreciates urban architecture and design.

[Rico Rommheim]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

Chicago



--mike-- at www.flickr.com

Toronto



infiniteblue at www.flickr.com

Toronto is much closer to the lens in this shot than Chicago is.

Anyway, Chicago's skyline is superior than Toronto's, I don't see how hard that is to accept, nor for that mater should it be an insult. Toronto can very well brag that its in the top 20 or top 10 in the world, it just ain't no Chicago.

[Coldrsx]

sorry... i just came into this... but i am getting this right? Toronto is being compared to Chitown?

ha

[jlousa]

Sheesh I came into this thread to see another dozen daily pics of Toronto's skyline posted by Caltrane74 and I'm dissappointed. I'm starting to forget what it looks like, please posted more pics.

By the way comparing Chi skyline to T.O's would be like comparing this years Blackhawks to this years Leafs sure they're in the same league but they aren't the same caliber.

[sammo]

i haven't been to chicago for years but i remember the bldgs, tall and short, felt huge! they had an inhuman volume and breathtaking height. (i dare say even 'frightening' -which is actually very good in my opinion)
i never would have seriously compared toronto to chicago then -and yes, still today.
but toronto has been busting at the seams lately and it has the momentum .

and maybe, if a few things happen, such as:

(random order)
toronto gets L tower built,
the Signature Tower at Cityplace sees light,
Ice Towers get built'
1Bloor East gets its act together,
Aura gets built,
when ShangriLa is up, Trump is done, MLS Towers done,
Four Seasons completed, Burano...
and a few other new key office/res buildings pop up (like Bay/Ad.2&3)
(plus, h.stintson is let out of the assylum and builds his insane 3200ft tall bldg/bridge/airport/aquarium/spa thingy -KIDDING!)


and on the otherhand chicago's 2000ft tall (on hold!) twisted 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 sets the 'trepid' pace over there,
then we'll have ourself a dog race.
then we can have legitimate comparision.
right now it's pretty embarrassing. chicago is overwhelming.
but hey, i say if your gonna dream of a skyline goal to acheive or beat, chicago is bold prey. like a young hyena with a lion in its sights. (me like hyenas)

i used to believe, kinda still do:
50 years ago chicago was toronto 25 years ahead.
25 years ago chicago was toronto 10 years ahead.
today, chicago is toronto 5 years ahead -maybe.





and damn it, stop calling cn tower a space needle! it's a telecommunication tower -with feelings.

[Calgarian]

enough already, this is about Canadian skylines, not Toronto vs Chicage. Now lets all post a ton of pictures of Calgary and discuss them

[caltrane74]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

"Just a mass of boxy point towers of varying heights" .... congratulations you just described a skyline.

If you cant see the differences between Chicago's skyline and Toronto's skyline then this discussion is as pointless as your many repetitive, exclamation point filled contributions to this forum.

you just proved my point.. and that it the CN Tower and the Skydome give Toronto's skyline a distinctive look. No one here reading this tread is getting my point, I put chicago in a group of cities that without distinctive landmarks could be just about any city. The fact the CN Tower is so tall and removed from the main cluster of buildings gives Toronto a unique look which is why it it considered one of the worlds great skylines!!!

I didn't say Toronto's skyline was superior to chicago.

Originally Posted by koops65

Although I am unhappy to admit it, Chicago does have a far superior skyline than Toronto does. Here are some simple numbers to consider:

Number of Built and U/C buildings over 500 feet
Chicago - 107
Toronto - 26

Number of Built and U/C buildings over 400 feet
Chicago - 192
Toronto - 72

Number of Built and U/C buildings over 300 feet
Chicago - 349
Toronto - 216

These numbers are from the SSP database.

Thanks for your attempt at back up koops, but like i said, This was not the game I was getting into here. I was just giving some credit to the CN Tower and Skydome for adding in distinctivness to the Toronto skyline. Without these the Toronto skyline could be just about any other city, except for the fact that outside of new york Toronto has more highrises than any other city than new york.... at least on this continent.

Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

Toronto is much closer to the lens in this shot than Chicago is.

Anyway, Chicago's skyline is superior than Toronto's, I don't see how hard that is to accept, nor for that mater should it be an insult. Toronto can very well brag that its in the top 20 or top 10 in the world, it just ain't no Chicago.

Rico my point was not that Toronto's skyline was superior to chicago's. My point was that without the CN Tower and the Skydome the city could be just about any other city...these things here make Toronto unique in the world, at least when lined up in combination, and have assured Toronto a place in the list of the worlds top 10 skylines for aleast a while longer...with the consideration of all the new towers near 200 meter towers under construction right now here.....

Originally Posted by sammo

ii used to believe, kinda still do:
50 years ago chicago was toronto 25 years ahead.
25 years ago chicago was toronto 10 years ahead.
today, chicago is toronto 5 years ahead -maybe.

Sammo, thanks for some excellent back up, however I need to point out that at least in this thread, I was not comparing Toronto's skyline to chicago. I just placed a group of random cities in a list that had skylines, which would be hard to separate from each other if they had no defining landmarks to break them out from your typical and random skyline shots!!

However with regards to the last part of your post about chicago, I totally agree.. Toronto is a speeding locomotive and chicago is clearly in our sights, and we should be getting ready for a head-on collision with the big boy of the united states as our organic urban growth takes this city to new hieghts!!!

[koops65]

OK Cal, I agree with you. Toronto's skyline is freaking awesome. CN Tower does add a unique distinctiveness to what otherwise might be considered average. Regardless if you like it or not, CN Tower is huge, and only surpassed in height (very recently) by a few buildings. The Seattle Skyneedle is pathetic and wimpy compared to CN Tower... Now as far as Toronto 'catching up' to Chicago, I'm not so sure I can agree with that. In the last 3 yrs alone, Chicago has added no less than 18 towers 500+ feet. Unfortuneately that too kicks Torontos 🞵🞵🞵.

[LeftCoaster]

Caltrane clearly you aren't understanding what the rest of us are saying.

No one here is denying that the CN tower is distinctive and makes the Toronto skyline unique. That is obvious. We are saying that if you removed the CN tower Toronto would not be "Just Chicago" as you said. Chicago has many unique and tall buildings separating it from a generic skyline, and to say that removing the CN tower would make Toronto just another skyline like Chicago is incredibly ignorant and arrogant.

[98fb]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

you just proved my point.. and that it the CN Tower and the Skydome give Toronto's skyline a distinctive look. No one here reading this tread is getting my point, I put chicago in a group of cities that without distinctive landmarks could be just about any city. The fact the CN Tower is so tall and removed from the main cluster of buildings gives Toronto a unique look which is why it it considered one of the worlds great skylines!!!

I didn't say Toronto's skyline was superior to chicago.




Thanks for your attempt at back up koops, but like i said, This was not the game I was getting into here. I was just giving some credit to the CN Tower and Skydome for adding in distinctivness to the Toronto skyline. Without these the Toronto skyline could be just about any other city, except for the fact that outside of new york Toronto has more highrises than any other city than new york.... at least on this continent.




Rico my point was not that Toronto's skyline was superior to chicago's. My point was that without the CN Tower and the Skydome the city could be just about any other city...these things here make Toronto unique in the world, at least when lined up in combination, and have assured Toronto a place in the list of the worlds top 10 skylines for aleast a while longer...with the consideration of all the new towers near 200 meter towers under construction right now here.....



Sammo, thanks for some excellent back up, however I need to point out that at least in this thread, I was not comparing Toronto's skyline to chicago. I just placed a group of random cities in a list that had skylines, which would be hard to separate from each other if they had no defining landmarks to break them out from your typical and random skyline shots!!

However with regards to the last part of your post about chicago, I totally agree.. Toronto is a speeding locomotive and chicago is clearly in our sights, and we should be getting ready for a head-on collision with the big boy of the united states as our organic urban growth takes this city to new hieghts!!!

Are people this stupid back east. You give Nicko a run for his money.

[sammo]

CRUDE SEGUE ALERT ! ! !
CRUDE SEGUE ALERT ! ! !

somebody, anybody, please post a pic of a canadian skyline already! (outside of toronto preferrably)

[Rico Rommheim]

why don't you do it?

[WhipperSnapper]

i used to believe, kinda still do:
50 years ago chicago was toronto 25 years ahead.
25 years ago chicago was toronto 10 years ahead.
today, chicago is toronto 5 years ahead -maybe.

I don't really know what the hell you mean but the closest Toronto's skyline has ever been to Chicagos was probably back in the late seventies.

I wouldn't count on the average heights over the past five years to continue either. There just isn't enough demand for 400+ suites buildings and almost every week another of these launched towers gets canned.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by sammo

CRUDE SEGUE ALERT ! ! !
CRUDE SEGUE ALERT ! ! !

somebody, anybody, please post a pic of a canadian skyline already! (outside of toronto preferrably)

BOOSH!



My pic