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Old Posted May 13, 2009, 2:16 AM
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Thanks for all your updates, NYguy.

Does anyone know when this building is actually going to start looking like, well... a building? In pictures I've seen of the original towers' construction, they were pretty recognizable even early on (of course, different design, different construction techniques, etc).
     
     
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I imagine sometime this summer.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2009, 4:33 AM
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Since I can't speak as a New Yorker, I will speak as an American.

it drives me NUTS that the Port Authority isn't doing EVERYTHING in it's power to see to it that THIS project is finished to it's fullest potential as soon as possible.

They are responsible for helping to heal the whole country, not just their own pocketbooks.
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Old Posted May 13, 2009, 12:16 PM
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Does anyone know when this building is actually going to start looking like, well... a building? In pictures I've seen of the original towers' construction, they were pretty recognizable even early on (of course, different design, different construction techniques, etc).
Basically, what you are looking at now is the core of the tower. When the outer frame begins to rise is when it will resemble the "finished" product.

A comparison:

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Old Posted May 13, 2009, 3:30 PM
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Since I can't speak as a New Yorker, I will speak as an American.

it drives me NUTS that the Port Authority isn't doing EVERYTHING in it's power to see to it that THIS project is finished to it's fullest potential as soon as possible.

They are responsible for helping to heal the whole country, not just their own pocketbooks.
Really??? This type of attitude drives me crazy. Of course the port authority is going to do everything it can to maximize their economic benefit on this project. Politics and agendas aside, this project still has to make economic sense. We do still live in a capatalist economy, it's important to not forget that.

I'm actually quite impressed with the work that has been accomplished in this short period of time. I would think that a supertall project from beginning to starting construction would take much longer than we have seen here even under the best circumstances even without the sensitive nature, politics and cleanup/demolition/reconstruction that are involved on this project.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2009, 10:03 PM
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Really??? This type of attitude drives me crazy. Of course the port authority is going to do everything it can to maximize their economic benefit on this project. Politics and agendas aside, this project still has to make economic sense. We do still live in a capatalist economy, it's important to not forget that.

I'm actually quite impressed with the work that has been accomplished in this short period of time. I would think that a supertall project from beginning to starting construction would take much longer than we have seen here even under the best circumstances even without the sensitive nature, politics and cleanup/demolition/reconstruction that are involved on this project.
The Port Authority didn't want anything to do with the Freedom Tower in the beginning (there's a reason why a private developer got the lease). But the tower is under construction afterall, and has to be completed. It still has half of its space to lease out, but that won't become an issue for another four years or so.
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Old Posted May 14, 2009, 5:25 AM
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Can you imagine the kind of statement these towers would make to the rest of the world if they were completed in tandem with the end of the American recession?
     
     
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Can you imagine the kind of statement these towers would make to the rest of the world if they were completed in tandem with the end of the American recession?
actually it would be a pretty terrible statement since they aren't scheduled to be completed for several years after the recession should be over. I'll be happy if we see them actually get above ground by the time the recession ends
     
     
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Here's the link for the PATH/Memorial thread..
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=158432
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Man its taken forever to see the core get any bigger. I guess its worth the wait.
     
     
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Old Posted May 18, 2009, 10:29 PM
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Old Posted May 18, 2009, 10:31 PM
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Update from morrongiello (May 18)

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Old Posted May 18, 2009, 11:05 PM
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Still no word on the broadcasters returning to the Freedom Tower, but thought this little bit of info was interesting...

http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/81176

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The 385 foot broadcast antenna at 4 Times Square was constructed in 2003 and tops the building out at 1,118 feet. The new tower allowed for the displaced World Trade Center broadcasters to find a new home after 9/11/2001. The tower is home to 12 FM radio stations, seven TV stations and has the capacity to handle the nine other FM stations as well as all the digital TV stations in the market.
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I'm sorry to say this but I'v lived in NYC for almost 13yrs and I've seen alot of buildings built over those years and I know that this is a special project with a lot of complexities compare to other regular projects....but this is extremely slow progress. If the foundation of the other core is not where the first core is now- by the end of July then something is very wrong. I've suspected all along that the PA is really dragging their feet on this project!!!
     
     
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I'm sorry to say this but I'v lived in NYC for almost 13yrs and I've seen alot of buildings built over those years and I know that this is a special project with a lot of complexities compare to other regular projects....but this is extremely slow progress. If the foundation of the other core is not where the first core is now- by the end of July then something is very wrong. I've suspected all along that the PA is really dragging their feet on this project!!!
It has been repeated in this thread often enough when the northern core should be expected to reach street level, and the building to start rising. Repeatedly commenting on the pace of construction isn't going to change anything.
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