Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed

[CBeats]

Too bad, guess we'll have to build the Millennium extension to UBC instead.

[Metro-One]

Honestly lets get this line built as skytrain before the misinformed LRT bug works its way back in. Thank god the C-line was built as true mass transit!

[GeeCee]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Honestly lets get this line built as skytrain before the misinformed LRT bug works its way back in. Thank god the C-line was built as true mass transit!

No kidding. I can't tell you how happy I was to learn that they decided to go with ALRT and the northwest alignment after all..

[STEELWHEELS]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

so it looks like the white spot will be gone too

Also, for the West tunnel portal, a bunch of houses on the west side of Clark Road, north of Como Lake Ave. Some of these houses were only built a couple of years ago.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Honestly lets get this line built as skytrain before the misinformed LRT bug works its way back in. Thank god the C-line was built as true mass transit!

Just finish the 3rd platform of Lougheed Station now so they have to stick with Skytrain

[red-paladin]

I thought they already promised Port Moody that the skytrain tunnel would come out under barnet highway at the Andres Wines site, so thatt houses would not be affected and it 'would not ruing the view' from St. Johns.

[lightrail]

My view of how things work in the lower mainland

City: We want skytrain to our city - no fair, that other much bigger city can't have skytrain before use. wahhhh wahhhh wahhh, gimmie, gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it I want it. No, I won't take no. gimmie gimmie gimmie.

Province: Okay okay already - I see you voted for my party, so you can have your skytrain already. Just vote for us again.

City: Great, wow, thanks. We love you. BTW, did we mention the skytrain has to be made out of gold, have redcap valet parking services and trains must be 125 metres long and run every 2 minutes. What, you can't aford that. wahhhh, wahhhh, wahhh, gimmie, gimmie gimmie gimmie. I want it I want it. No, I won't take no. gimmie gimmie gimmie.

[DKaz]

^^^ And that's how the Millennium Line through Burnaby came to be.

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by CBeats

Too bad, guess we'll have to build the Millennium extension to UBC instead.

that would be a better investment than the E line right now - at least if the e line isn't built it still has the west coast express - picking up a handful of busriders in between coq centre and lougheed centre isn't much as compared to what the UBC extension would do

I would rather see the eline money go directly to extending UBC now and than concentrate later on the e line and I live in Coquitlam

[CBeats]

^^^ And that B-Line that the evergreen line is supposed to be replacing has never been as busy as the 99 when I've been on it. And it just makes more sense to relieve pressure from Broadway/Commercial Drive as opposed to increasing it first.

[SpongeG]

yes

[nname]

Originally Posted by CBeats

^^^ And that B-Line that the evergreen line is supposed to be replacing has never been as busy as the 99 when I've been on it. And it just makes more sense to relieve pressure from Broadway/Commercial Drive as opposed to increasing it first.

I would say the 97 B-line is doing very good right now as it is actually slower than the original route (147) it replaced, and now is the slowest bus route to get from Coquitlam to Skytrain. A lot of people from Coquitlam knows that the B-Line is slow, but some never know that you can take the 169, 177, 151, 152, 143-145, 143-156/C24/97, or 160/190-97, which all ended up faster than taking the 97 directly.

[SpongeG]

yes one thing the area is blessed with is a lot of routes - well unless u live on westwood plateau which is pretty spotty

[nname]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

yes one thing the area is blessed with is a lot of routes - well unless u live on westwood plateau which is pretty spotty

Westwood plateau actually got good service compared to here in Poco, where it takes you 2 transfers just to get to a skytrain station. What more can you expect if there a route that run every 15min at peak and 30min off peak and goes directly to a major transfer station?

[metroXpress]

^lol

[Mininari]

Originally Posted by nname

I would say the 97 B-line is doing very good right now as it is actually slower than the original route (147) it replaced, and now is the slowest bus route to get from Coquitlam to Skytrain. A lot of people from Coquitlam knows that the B-Line is slow, but some never know that you can take the 169, 177, 151, 152, 143-145, 143-156/C24/97, or 160/190-97, which all ended up faster than taking the 97 directly.

This is very true.
High frequency is all well and good, but when the bus has to stop at EVERY stop to let people on/off, it becomes nothing more than a really frequent local bus. This is where you know the service has to jump to something better... and since LRT is nothing more than a higher capacity bus on rails, this is where skytrain comes in!

Now, if they could just get this thing UNDER CONSTRUCTION before I start looking into moving BACK to BC in 2013

Btw, that freedom-of-information act that Port Moody pulled with the CPR right-of-way does not look promising. Expect the whole routing issue through the "historic" centre of port moody (gas stations n martial arts studios???) to become an issue again.

My prediction: If the liberals win, the evergreen line will proceed, but only after massive upheavals and expropriations to make way for the skytrain (either private owners, or the CPR right-of-way).

If the NDP win, then this project will go through three more redesigns, become LRT, switch back to the southeast route, then maybe they'll opt to build LRT over the Port Mann down the middle of the freeway (serving effectively NO walking-distance population).

Either way, Trasolini is going to be steaming for his entire term in office.

Considering I once said to my friends 14 years ago that it would be really "cool" to ride the Skytrain downtown to the then NEW GM place to take in a Canucks game, and here we stand with promises and funding announcements galore (before an election), I remain cynical. VERY cynical of this whole deal.

But don't get me wrong, I really think the Northeast needs skytrain -- and was needed 14 years ago (for more reasons than just me wanting to take transit to a hockey game).


-Former Port Moody Resident

[David]

yeah, i doubt any of the current tri-cities forumers will even be living in the tri-cities when this thing is finally built!

[Kodii]

I know I won't be living in Abbotsford by the time anything is built out there

[Metro-One]

CPR is the thorn in the side of many mass transit projects (WCE anyone?) To me these problems that have arisen with this private company display why it is a bad idea to sell BC rail and other infrastructure to private companies, because the public of BC loses control of them.

[STEELWHEELS]

Originally Posted by Mininari

This is very true.

...My prediction: If the liberals win, the evergreen line will proceed, but only after massive upheavals and expropriations to make way for the skytrain (either private owners, or the CPR right-of-way).

If the NDP win, then this project will go through three more redesigns, become LRT, switch back to the southeast route, then maybe they'll opt to build LRT over the Port Mann down the middle of the freeway (serving effectively NO walking-distance population).

Either way, Trasolini is going to be steaming for his entire term in office.

Considering I once said to my friends 14 years ago that it would be really "cool" to ride the Skytrain downtown to the then NEW GM place to take in a Canucks game, and here we stand with promises and funding announcements galore (before an election), I remain cynical. VERY cynical of this whole deal.

But don't get me wrong, I really think the Northeast needs skytrain -- and was needed 14 years ago (for more reasons than just me wanting to take transit to a hockey game).


-Former Port Moody Resident

When Carole James announced that an NDP government
would fully fund the Evergreen Line, I don't recall seeing
any specific mention of the SkyTrain technology being used.
If they are elected, I predict another study to determine the
"right technology"... and a completion date of, oh, 2018 with
good old fashioned LRT in the end.