Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed - Page 65

DKaz · #**1281** Posted **Apr 21, 2009, 11:54 PM**

No her stance is that if the line was originally built in the first place, it would've only cost $800 mil. They fully understand it'll cost $1.4 billion dollars now and will fully fund that amount to get Skytrain to Coquitlam like originally intended back in the late 90s.

I don't like Carole any more than you guys but read the article carefully. Twisting people's words and spreading misinformation sucks whether you're an NDP or Liberal supporter.

racc · #**1282** Posted **Apr 22, 2009, 6:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Classic NDP complaining. Where's their results?

The Millennium Line which was finished $60 million under budget. The Evergreen Line would have been started right after the Millennium Line was completed. The bottom line is that Campbell delayed it.

WarrenC12 · #**1283** Posted **Apr 23, 2009, 11:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by racc

The Millennium Line which was finished $60 million under budget. The Evergreen Line would have been started right after the Millennium Line was completed. The bottom line is that Campbell delayed it.

The M-Line aka the road to nowhere? I live near it now, but as the 2nd major link, it's a complete joke geographically.

If the NDP are so budget conscious, why didn't they let Steve Wynn build us a free convention centre?

twoNeurons · #**1284** Posted **Apr 23, 2009, 11:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

The M-Line aka the road to nowhere? I live near it now, but as the 2nd major link, it's a complete joke geographically.

If the NDP are so budget conscious, why didn't they let Steve Wynn build us a free convention centre?

I used to have to take a bus along Lougheed before the M-line. It sucked. Before the M-Line, there was really only one viable choice to get downtown from the tri-cities: drive. I've never lived in the Tri-cities, but I wouldn't say it goes nowhere, it's just only half-built.

Where the NDP made the mistake is they should've committed and signed contracts for extensions, like the Liberals have done with the Port Mann.

Smart move, next gov't can't really kill it and so they're forced to finish it, without getting any of the credit.

We'd have a seamless SkyTrain from Coquitlam to Granville St. by now if that were done.

mr.x · #**1285** Posted **Apr 24, 2009, 12:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

The M-Line aka the road to nowhere? I live near it now, but as the 2nd major link, it's a complete joke geographically.

If the NDP are so budget conscious, why didn't they let Steve Wynn build us a free convention centre?

Well, in all fairness the Millennium Line under NDP plans were to include the Evergreen and Broadway extensions as phase II...for a 2006 completion. So really, all those complaints back then about the M-Line with its lower than expected ridership was because the line was only half built.

I couldn't agree more with the last part, though I believe it was the City of Vancouver that didn't let Wynn build his casino-resort-convention centre.

STEELWHEELS · #**1286** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 3:32 AM**

I think this project could have an early contruction start if it was done in two phases. The first phase just to the Burquitlam Plaza Station, then the last phase building the tunnel and remaining part of the line. The designs for Lougheed Station's Coquitlam Centre platform, and the criss-crossing guideway onto North Road have already been completed, just needing to be dusted off. One would think that the environmental review for this section would be simple, as there are no streams to cross over. By getting the Burquitlam section done early, the 97 B-Line bus route could be shortened up, avoiding the rush-hour gridlocked area around Lougheed Mall.

GeeCee · #**1287** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 4:44 AM**

At this point, I'll be glad to see it start at all.

nname · #**1288** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 5:12 AM**

At least they should start working on the third platform for Lougheed station now...

metroXpress · #**1289** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 4:26 PM**

^ I wonder how it would look like??

DKaz · #**1290** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 5:36 PM**

^^^ Better? lol. It could probably use a good pressure washing.

WarrenC12 · #**1291** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 8:00 PM**

Can this topic be moved passed "Proposed" yet? All of the funding is in place right?

GeeCee · #**1292** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 8:02 PM**

AFAIK it's still 173 million short

And we don't have an official SSP designation that goes between Proposed and U/C - see: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=137997

officedweller · #**1293** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 8:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Allen

^ I wonder how it would look like??

Here are pics of a model of the originally proposed configuration for the PMC Line at the Model Shop website.
It shows the turnout for the tracks heading up North Road (as well as the third platform).

http://www.modelshop.bc.ca/porty2/file/4000/4021/4021-1.htm

Model from the other direction:

SpongeG · #**1294** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 9:53 PM**

i stil understand the platform

If i am coming from braid - I have to exit at the station as it is now - walk downstairs and than back up stairs to the new added on platform? and vice versa if i am coming from coq centre and want to go to braid?

nname · #**1295** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 10:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

i stil understand the platform

If i am coming from braid - I have to exit at the station as it is now - walk downstairs and than back up stairs to the new added on platform? and vice versa if i am coming from coq centre and want to go to braid?

I think you only need to walk down and back up if you're going to Coquitlam.

From the last image, if you label the platform from left to right as 1, 2, and 3, I think platform 1 goes toward Braid, platform 2 goes toward VCC-Clark, and platform 3 goes toward Coquitlam. The stacked configuration for the turn is probably for the inbound and outbound track to switch position when coming into Lougheed station.

SpongeG · #**1296** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 10:08 PM**

how convenient

officedweller · #**1297** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 10:30 PM**

I don't think the stacked guideways basketweave to switch sides - otherwise the eastbound trains would have to switch over level tracks west of the station to reach that 3rd platform.

I think the stacking is to allow both guideways to adopt the same (or similar) radius of curvature for the turn. It's a very very tight turn.

SpongeG · #**1298** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 10:39 PM**

so when will demo start on some of the buildings?

i think that garage next to the white spot has to be removed - i think i remember seeing a layout and that building was gone

nname · #**1299** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

I don't think the stacked guideways basketweave to switch sides - otherwise the eastbound trains would have to switch over level tracks west of the station to reach that 3rd platform.

I think the stacking is to allow both guideways to adopt the same (or similar) radius of curvature for the turn. It's a very very tight turn.

If you look closely at the last photo, there is indeed a switch. The last pillar in the photo is directly below the upper deck while it is on the east side of lower deck. By switching side, there will only be 1 at-grade switchover at the west side of the station instead of 2.

WarrenC12 · #**1300** Posted **Apr 29, 2009, 11:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by GeeCee

AFAIK it's still 173 million short

And we don't have an official SSP designation that goes between Proposed and U/C - see: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=137997

Ahhh the rules... what would we be without rules? Complete savages I'm sure.