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Thursday, 15 January 2009
Utah County FrontRunner commuter rail expansion on track
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Union Pacific and UTA crews unloaded 10 1660 foot steel rails in Lehi for the UTA Frontrunner rail system Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2009. The third-of-a-mile long continuous welded rails weighing more than 31 tons were brought to Utah from a plant in Pueblo County, Colorado.


While recessionary concerns threaten to reduce or close government projects across the state, a planned commuter rail extension into Utah County is rolling along just fine.
"As far as budget cuts go, that is not an issue," said Carrie Bohnsack-Ware, spokeswoman for Utah Transit Authority, which is heading up the FrontRunner endeavor. "We are plowing ahead at full steam -- pun intended."

The FrontRunner South project will connect the new railway from its Salt Lake Central Station to an intermodal center at 600 South in Provo, with stops along the way in Orem, Vineyard, American Fork, Lehi, Draper, Sandy and Murray. It's part of UTA's $2.2 billion FrontLines 2015 program, a series of commuter and light rail projects funded by federal and local authorities. The expansion is well under way and could be open "if everything goes well" in 2012, said project manager Steve Meyer, though it's unclear what the final cost will be.

"There isn't an easy answer because of several factors," he said. "There are over 300 individual parcels of right-of-way that we're in the process of acquiring."

But it's more than that, Meyer said. Along the way, existing Union Pacific track must be moved, utility lines must be relocated, bridges must be built -- all of which depends on parties outside of UTA's control. He said it's a safe bet the final price tag will be significantly higher than FrontRunner North's, which topped $600 million for an equal length of track -- 44 miles -- between Salt Lake City and Ogden.

"That was good practice up north," said Meyer, who also managed the first half of the project. "This is the real deal."

The biggest difference between the two legs is the number of structures needed to make the southern route work, he said. The northern segment required just two bridges. The southern part looks to require at least 60 structures, including bridges, boxes and irrigation. Construction is already under way for a bridge over the American Fork River, and brush clearing and grading is being done at other spots along the future line.

"This year's going to be a big year for us to get a lot of work done," Meyer said. "We're dependent upon those third parties to get some of that work done to open up the corridor."

Utah County's FrontRunner stations will be positioned along the Interstate 15 corridor at high-population nexuses: Thanksgiving Point in Lehi, the new Main Street interchange in American Fork, the old Geneva site in Vineyard, west of Utah Valley University in Orem, and at University Avenue and 600 South in Provo. The Vineyard station won't open with the others, but will be added as the county continues to grow, Meyer said.

The Orem and Provo stations will be part of larger "intermodal centers" that will also offer commuters an option to finish their trips on special "bus rapid transit" lines. The buses are designed to move rapidly through city streets to popular stops such as Brigham Young University. It's all part of a larger plan to make it possible for county residents to leave their cars behind and be able to access faraway destinations -- like the Salt Lake International Airport, EnergySolutions Arena or the University of Utah -- using public transportation, said Gary McGinn, Provo's director of community development.

"That'll be a major link," he said. "Once we have that backbone of good, reliable bus rapid transit service in our city, then we can have more local bus service branching off that spine into other areas of our city."

McGinn said Provo's intermodal center is scheduled to open concurrently with FrontRunner South.

When FrontRunner opens, travel from Provo to Ogden -- the line's terminal points -- should take just under two hours, Meyer said. But it may not stop there: There are discussions about extending the line as far south as Nephi, with additional stops in Springville and Payson, and as far north as Brigham City. He said Springville has already picked a site, and Payson has created a transit-oriented zone in preparation for future expansion.

"That 120 miles encompasses about 80 percent of the state's population," Meyer said. "That'd be the spine of the Utah transportation corridor."

• Ace Stryker can be reached at [email protected].
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North County Boulevard to expand in A.F.

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The Mountainland association of Governments has approved using $6.5 million to purchase land to eventually expand the road, which is 1100 East in American Fork, to two lanes in each direction, plus a turning lane...

View north from new 1100 East route & American Fork Hospital. New boulevard will run in a north/south direction from I-15 to the city of Alpine

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Tuesday, 24 February 2009
Vineyard power plant to double in size, output, owners say
Michael Rigert - DAILY HERALD

Vineyard's anticipated residential growth may have stalled because of last year's mortgage crisis and a still-sputtering national economy, but that doesn't mean development isn't coming to the town west of Orem.
At the town's Feb. 4 Planning Commission meeting, Bob Looper, president of Summit Vineyard, a partner in the $330 million Lake Side Power Plant, submitted plans for the multi-million dollar construction of the second phase of the natural-gas-fired turbine plant. The plant's applications for conditional use permits and site plan approval will come before the Vineyard Town Council during its meeting Thursday.

The Lake Side Power Plant is part of a network that provides power to 1.6 million people in Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Oregon, Washington and California.

The Vineyard site, located on 20 acres of former Geneva Steel property, was initially conceived and developed with the second stage to be part of the original construction, or as a planned expansion, he said.

"It's really a duplicate of phase one," Looper said.

Looper didn't cite an official price tag for the planned doubling in size and electrical power input of the plant that currently generates an average of 535 megawatts -- enough power to serve about 500 typical homes per day.

In a 2008 draft report from Rocky Mountain Power, the cost for phase two of the project was estimated at $630 million, not including the cost of the land or preparing the site. Pacificorp, which owns Rocky Mountain Power, is a partner in the project.

Vineyard town clerk Dan Wright added that material costs have risen significantly since the initial plant became operational in September of 2007.

"Obviously, funding for a large project like this is very difficult to come by," Looper said.

It has not been decided yet when construction on phase two of the Lake Side plant would begin, he said.

Plant officials said previously that the Vineyard location and a plant in Mona were potential expansion sites due to the growing demand for electricity along the Wasatch Front and in the Intermountain Region.

Looper said though phase two of the Lake Side plant is of a similar design, technology has gotten more efficient resulting in a phase two turbine that would be at least 5 percent more energy efficient than the one currently operating at the plant.

He added that as in phase one of the plant's construction, company officials would again aim to use 50 percent of the phase two project labor force from the local area.

"Overall it took one million hours of labor," Looper said.

David Robbins, chairman of the Vineyard town Planning Commission, said commissioners unanimously forwarded a favorable recommendation to the town council regarding Looper's application for a conditional use permit and site plan approval for phase two.

"It's already zoned for that use, there's one up and running and we'll welcome a second [phase]," he said.

A phase two of the plant would generate some revenue for the town in property tax and building permits, Robbins said. He said the plant's officials and owners have been good neighbors.

Robbins said a few neighbors had complained of the plant's steam plume blocking the sun during the winter months. There were also concerns about how the proposed expansion would impact a trail that runs through the communities of Orem, Lindon and Vineyard. Plant officials have agreed to allow the trail to continue across the property, he said.

"I don't think it's a bad thing," Robbins said, citing the area's need for electric power and the plant's comparatively clean and environmentally friendly operation in comparison to former industries on the same soil.

"I said, 'Go back 30 years when I was a kid, and look at what the steel plant put on into the air,'" Robbins said.
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American Fork prepares for Frontrunner project
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Farmington city manager Max Forbush points out the area around his community's FrontRunner station to Ken Baldwin, chairman of American Fork's Planning and Zoning Commission. Members of the commission, the City Council and city staff took a ride on the FrontRunner Saturday and spoke with Forbush and other Farmington officials about potential development in American Fork, near that city's commuter rail station.

American Fork -- American Fork is on track for the FrontRunner commuter rail project.

FrontRunner service started last April between Salt Lake City and Ogden, and there are plans to extend it south to Provo and eventually Payson. It is a high-speed commuter rail system with minimal stops, which helps it maintain the high speed.

The FrontRunner station in American Fork is planned for the west side of Interstate 15, at approximately 200 South.



To help the city prepare for that station and the possibility of transit-oriented development, which is expected to be constructed around the station, UTA invited members of the city staff, Planning and Zoning Commission and City Council to ride FrontRunner Saturday from Salt Lake City to Ogden. Along the way, they stopped in Farmington and spoke with some of the officials of that city to get some insights into the process.

"The city manager in Farmington said the original developer was actually a speculator," said Planning Commission Chairman Ken Baldwin. "He bought most of the property up, so it came in one ownership. He sold it. With a single developer, it gives you a chance of getting what you want for coordinated development."

Although having a single developer is not the case in American Fork, Baldwin said there were some similarities between the Farmington station and the one planned here. Both are on the other side of the freeway from what could be considered the area's main attractions. In Farmington it is Lagoon; in American Fork it is The Meadows. Those situations created problems, he said.

"We're going to have a real problem trying to figure out how to get what we want," he said. "For example, we need some kind of pedestrian connection between the park and ride and The Meadows. Who's going to pay for it?"

In Farmington, there is an elevated walkway between the station on the east side of the tracks and the parking lot. It includes elevators for the handicapped. Baldwin said he was told it cost $4 million.

"The one we need would become at least double that," he said. "The FrontRunner station itself is pretty well determined by where the tracks are. The support facilities for the station will be the responsibility of the city, getting traffic in and out, lights where they are needed. That is not included in their plans. They just basically say, 'Here it is. We're providing you a service -- figure out how to use it.'"

Baldwin said that despite the unknown and problems that need to be worked out, he is pleased with the service.

"I agree it can be a very positive thing for the community if it's developed right," he said. "The encouraging part, it will have a positive effect for people living in American Fork in that it will provide additional employment opportunities. If we can get appropriate development, it will provide both housing and support facilities."

City Councilman Ricky Storrs said he could see the potential for FrontRunner helping American Fork, but he said the development nearby may not happen immediately.

"I could really see how it could help with our traffic situation," he said. "I could see something like the development planned for Farmington happening on a smaller scale here. I don't know how soon it would be with the economy the way it is."

Baldwin said he expected the Planning Commission would address the issue, possibly within the next month.

"It's sort of like looking at Oz," he said. "It has great potential. How you're going to do it is left for the scriptwriters."

Transit-oriented development usually includes high-density housing, often mixed with commercial and office space. American Fork has had individuals making an initial contact about putting high-density housing in the vicinity of the station, but most have not addressed other things that go along with it.

"If you have high-density housing, schools and churches have got to be provided if you are going to have a good feeling for the development," Baldwin said. "Otherwise, you have people who don't have anything to bring them together." Baldwin said that could cause some problems, such as an increase in crime.

"When Wal-Mart moved, the police got 10 times the calls to the new than they had at the old one," he said. "The new one isn't 10 times as big. Just a little impersonalization makes a lot of impact what the city has to do to provide services."

He said there were many things that make up a community, and that the city needed to take those into consideration.

"Just because you have a transit hub doesn't mean you have all the structure in place for a community," he said. He explained those include churches, schools and shopping, along with ready access to police and fire protection, and amenities such as the library and fitness center.

Baldwin said the concept has potential, but it will take a great deal of effort and money to bring it to fruition.

"I know if we increase the population density, we increase almost astronomically the concerns about providing the services, so that what develops will have the same feel as the rest of A.F. as a community," Baldwin said. "That's my major concern, pure and simple."

J.H. Hadfield of the city's Engineering Department said that UTA was beginning the construction process for the station.

"They are in the process of bringing in utilities and fill," he said. "We're pretty much committed to support them. It is serviced by a county road and we will have to figure out how to provide fire protection." He said that narrow county road would need to be improved to handle the traffic.
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Looper didn't cite an official price tag for the planned doubling in size and electrical power input of the plant that currently generates an average of 535 megawatts -- enough power to serve about 500 typical homes per day.
500 hundred homes! That can't be right. It seems to me it would be more like 5000 homes.
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500 hundred homes! That can't be right. It seems to me it would be more like 5000 homes.
Yeah Delts your right that must be a misprint. It would have to be at least 50,000 homes. Estimates vary widely so news stories are very unreliable.
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Speaking of trends, I happened to pass by the soon-to-open Walmart at Cedar Hills, which is adj. to Highland and Alpine. I was shocked at what I saw. This is probably the most attractive Walmart I've seen yet, and hopefully it will set a much higher bar. I'm hoping that the Walmart replacing the ugly old K-mart at the top of the east bench will take its cues from this one in Cedar Hills. My only change for this new Walmart would be that it is attractive enough that additional floors should have been considered as residential. I really think that there would have been a market for it in that area. Particularly with young couples and seniors.
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You're talking to an all-out anti-Walmart activist here, but I am glad to see that they are finally starting to alter designs to fit into local architecture. I think the main reason I hate Walmart (beside building over ancient historic sights in Mexico, ruining entire economies in Central America, denying hundreds of thousands of hours of breaks/lunches to employees, etc, etc) is how they will just invade a small town and overrun the local economy. When you look at Target, they build in urban and suburban areas (seriously, have you ever seen a Target in a rural area?) Then, when Walmart does invade such a town, they build a white and blue box that toally clashes with the town. I am glad to see that they are fixing this. I understand that the area you speak of is suburban, so that's good. I'm glad they're not killing another helpless small town. I just hate how Walmart competes with small businesses - Target competes with other big boxes. Walmart is like the nasty 6th grader who beats up the little, helpless kindergarteners. Target, on the other hand, picks fights with fellow 6th graders.
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I passed by the Cedar Hills Walmart yesterday as well. I was blown away. It looks really nice!
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I had remembered posting those renderings in the past, but they don't do the actual project justice. That was one of the reasons I was so surprised, "the actual building was much nicer than the rendering."
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That would be a much better walmart design, but it's still a walmart.
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it's better than the one on 300 W 1300 S.

By like a BILLION times.
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It's okay, I guess.. kind of just looks like an Albertsons to me.
Like I said, that rendering is pretty sucky compared to the completed project. This Walmart is much nicer than a typical Albertsons.

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Eww, I know! It feels like you're in a factory (big, bright flood lights, no ceiling hinding the rafters, endless as far as the eye can see). I have only been inside a Walmart a few times in my life (only purchased something twice ), but from my experience, it has been a negative experience. I like how when you go into a Target, it feels like a store. It's attractively colored and decorated, they always have a ceiling, things are better organized. I remember going to a Walmart trying to find something and finding like-items in about 5 sections of the store. I was completely baffled as to which section would have the item I was looking for. Then, when you go into a Target, there are a few things you can't find there - making you go to another store. Some people don't like this, but I do because it doesn't hog all the business like one store I know of (*caugh*Wal*caugh*Mart*caugh). It makes it so a Target can flourish at less expense to sorounding stores and makes the store smaller and more managable to find stuff. Then, as I mentioned earlier, it doesn't invade a neighborhood and destoy local businesses. Just look at SL County - In West Jordan, there is the Redwood store inside a typical suburban strip-mall, the Jordan Landing Store sorounded by big-boxes; in South Jordan, there is the store in The District which is sorounded by big boxes; there's the Fort Union Store sorounded by lots of big-box shopping centers; then there's the Sandy Store at a mall and also sorounded by big-boxes. Total, there are 5 stores (2 Supers, 3 smaller stores). How many Walmarts are there in the same County? I couldn't count them either. I bet there are less payday-loan centers than Walmarts in SL County.
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Seriously guys, this Walmart is a Hell of allot more attractive than your typical Walmart, or "Target" for that matter. It actually reminds me of one of these new chic assisted living centers, LOL. Don't even pay attention to that rendering they released previously. I guess if someone at flickr or the forum doesn't photograph it soon, I'm going to have to take a pic myself. I purposely made a detour yesterday in order to take a closer look at it. It wasn't open yet, but I parked and walked around it, examining the luxury home-style brick and all of the design elements that make it kind of a shocking surprise. It's amazing what a bull-headed city council and residents can do when Walmart wants a location and the city forces their will as a prerequisite. All cities in Utah should take notice. I am impressed with the obvious level of taste of certain members of this Cedar Hills Council. I would like to know, who on the city was the primary driving force in forcing such a huge change with this Walmart's design.
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At last, Cedar Hills welcomes Wal-Mart

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705291526,00.html

CEDAR HILLS — After lengthy negotiations and a city referendum, Wal-Mart will open its doors at 8 a.m. Wednesday.

The grand opening of the medium-sized store signifies the end of a yearlong struggle between the world's largest retailer and Cedar Hills, which held the big-box giant to high building standards and halted previous negotiations because city officials didn't like some of the store's items and store hours.

But when a majority of voters in the small Utah County city rejected a provisional 2005 city ordinance that would ban stores from operating on Sunday and selling beer, it ripened the city's commercial appeal. Wal-Mart renegotiated and broke ground on the store last spring, but not before agreeing to follow strict city codes on the store's appearance...


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I am not gasping over the renderings of WalMart. Just WalMart itself.
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It has been pointed out countless times by numerous forumers that they depend on the lower price points of innumerable products, which can be purchased at Walmart. When the couples of 4 or more children are watching every penney in these difficult economic times, a Walmart can be a very important ingredient in saving the family budget.

Myself, I try to memorize which market dependably offers the best price on which product. I tend to shop and purchase the same realm of products each month. Between the running specials of Walmart, Smiths, Harmons, Macy's, Kohler's, etc. I am usually able to get a complete selection of excellent deals, whether it's produce, poultry, toilettries, or whatever.
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I'm always happy to change to focus off Wal-Mart. I have noticed on my horrendous daily (4 days) commute that there are several interchanges that are being rebuilt and expanded, namely the American Fork Main St, Harts has closed, and also the Springville interchange. The Springville interchange is being doubled in width and is being built as a single point urban interchange, like those along the I-15 rebuild, and University Ave in Orem.
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Oh wow, I had no idea that the walmart was that close to completion. I'll try and check it out some time. If it really is brick all the way around, it should look pretty good. Is it much different on the inside? That's all I'd really like to change... I don't expect much from a walmart but it seems like it would be appropriate for them to step up the ante. Costco is a warehouse, and I like that, but walmart is just way too generic. White, ugly, tile floors, black carpet, chrome racks, black somewhat modern signs, there is absolutely nothing impressive or even slightly interesting about a walmart. I just go there to get groceries on occasion, otherwise I'd just go to Albertsons which isn't really any less politically scandalous.

I suppose I should go to The Store and The Store Too more often, those are my local grocery stores anyway.
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John, Today was their grand opening, so I dropped in on my way back from the gym. The exterior really is impressive. I don't think I've ever seen a grocery store with quite as many angles, breaks and pop outs. I even noticed some copper gutters and trim on the roof, and ironwork railings at the garden center. The interior ceiling is the expected white steel grid, but the flooring treatments and displays were more like the newer Harmons or Smiths Marketplace. While there seemed to be everything I would need, it wasn't quite as big of a monster inside as a supercenter. There seemed to be more focus and less warehouse volume. Also, the bakery was a pleasant shock. It was definitely a big cut above the typical. I'm being really strict right now with my workouts and diet, but I did sample a few things, and the taste and quality was excellent and very surprising. Also I talked extensively with the bakery manager, who is a local Highlander. She said they were aiming to be on the same level of quality as the new Kneaders in Highland. Anyway, overall it was a much more positive feel and experience than what I'm use to at a typical Walmart. It had much more of a community 'this is my hometown pride' feel to it.
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Cedar Hills - Facing The Future

Here's an interesting article, which appeared in the January Herald. It kind of gives a little insight into the mindset of this interesting town leadership


C.H. to quell traffic after store openings

...Cedar Hills is historically a small bedroom community. Residents have used the roads of the city to go to church, go to school, and to get out of town to do errands. But all that is about to change this spring when Wal-Mart opens...

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Construction continues on the new Wal-Mart on Cedar Hills Drive in Cedar Hills Tuesday, Jan. 13, 2009.

Note: Also noticed now that it is completed, the pitched roof is covered in thick slate tiles, and trimmed with a generous amount of copper troughs and channels.

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Prep work in Lindon green-lighted for UTA commuter rail

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Utah Transit Authority General Manager John Inglish introduces the UTA FrontRunner engine train that will serve Utah County beginning in 2012 during a groundbreaking ceremony in Lehi.

Lindon City Council members have cleared a path for the Utah Transit Authority to start construction on city property for the FrontRunner commuter rail project.

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Huge paper plant in the works in south Utah County

http://deseretnews.com/article/705294516/Huge-paper-plant-in-the-works.html

ELBERTA — A new Utah County zone that allows for growth including industrial, commercial, office and residential may have an early taker with a huge paper factory...

...They wanted it shovel-ready by April," Utah County Planning Commission chairman Dean Miner said...



...Once online it would employ as many as 1,000 to 1,200 people, Ellertson said. Initially it would begin with 400 hires.


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Tuesday, 24 February 2009
Vineyard power plant to double in size, output, owners say
Michael Rigert - DAILY HERALD

Vineyard's anticipated residential growth may have stalled because of last year's mortgage crisis and a still-sputtering national economy, but that doesn't mean development isn't coming to the town west of Orem.
At the town's Feb. 4 Planning Commission meeting, Bob Looper, president of Summit Vineyard, a partner in the $330 million Lake Side Power Plant, submitted plans for the multi-million dollar construction of the second phase of the natural-gas-fired turbine plant. The plant's applications for conditional use permits and site plan approval will come before the Vineyard Town Council during its meeting Thursday.

The Lake Side Power Plant is part of a network that provides power to 1.6 million people in Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Oregon, Washington and California.

The Vineyard site, located on 20 acres of former Geneva Steel property, was initially conceived and developed with the second stage to be part of the original construction, or as a planned expansion, he said.

"It's really a duplicate of phase one," Looper said.

Looper didn't cite an official price tag for the planned doubling in size and electrical power input of the plant that currently generates an average of 535 megawatts -- enough power to serve about 500 typical homes per day.

In a 2008 draft report from Rocky Mountain Power, the cost for phase two of the project was estimated at $630 million, not including the cost of the land or preparing the site. Pacificorp, which owns Rocky Mountain Power, is a partner in the project.

Vineyard town clerk Dan Wright added that material costs have risen significantly since the initial plant became operational in September of 2007.

"Obviously, funding for a large project like this is very difficult to come by," Looper said.

It has not been decided yet when construction on phase two of the Lake Side plant would begin, he said.

Plant officials said previously that the Vineyard location and a plant in Mona were potential expansion sites due to the growing demand for electricity along the Wasatch Front and in the Intermountain Region.

Looper said though phase two of the Lake Side plant is of a similar design, technology has gotten more efficient resulting in a phase two turbine that would be at least 5 percent more energy efficient than the one currently operating at the plant.

He added that as in phase one of the plant's construction, company officials would again aim to use 50 percent of the phase two project labor force from the local area.

"Overall it took one million hours of labor," Looper said.

David Robbins, chairman of the Vineyard town Planning Commission, said commissioners unanimously forwarded a favorable recommendation to the town council regarding Looper's application for a conditional use permit and site plan approval for phase two.

"It's already zoned for that use, there's one up and running and we'll welcome a second [phase]," he said.

A phase two of the plant would generate some revenue for the town in property tax and building permits, Robbins said. He said the plant's officials and owners have been good neighbors.

Robbins said a few neighbors had complained of the plant's steam plume blocking the sun during the winter months. There were also concerns about how the proposed expansion would impact a trail that runs through the communities of Orem, Lindon and Vineyard. Plant officials have agreed to allow the trail to continue across the property, he said.

"I don't think it's a bad thing," Robbins said, citing the area's need for electric power and the plant's comparatively clean and environmentally friendly operation in comparison to former industries on the same soil.

"I said, 'Go back 30 years when I was a kid, and look at what the steel plant put on into the air,'" Robbins said.
Ewwww!!!

I know, it is needed for the electricity it provides. I just hope we can get off these discusting dirty fuels over next couple decades or so.

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Seriously guys, this Walmart is a Hell of allot more attractive than your typical Walmart, or "Target" for that matter. It actually reminds me of one of these new chic assisted living centers, LOL. Don't even pay attention to that rendering they released previously. I guess if someone at flickr or the forum doesn't photograph it soon, I'm going to have to take a pic myself. I purposely made a detour yesterday in order to take a closer look at it. It wasn't open yet, but I parked and walked around it, examining the luxury home-style brick and all of the design elements that make it kind of a shocking surprise. It's amazing what a bull-headed city council and residents can do when Walmart wants a location and the city forces their will as a prerequisite. All cities in Utah should take notice. I am impressed with the obvious level of taste of certain members of this Cedar Hills Council. I would like to know, who on the city was the primary driving force in forcing such a huge change with this Walmart's design.
Wow, it does sound nice. Too, bad my reservations/hatred for the company is greater than my desire to go and see it...

I have actually worked myself into a position where I can't go into Walmart even if I wanted to. After all my harsh diatribes against Walmart to my friends and family, it would be most embarrasing to be seen in one
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Ewwww!!!

I know, it is needed for the electricity it provides. I just hope we can get off these discusting dirty fuels over next couple decades or so.
Wait a minute now, I understood this was a natural gas facility. Granted, natural gas is not renewable, but at least it's relitively very clean, and far better than many other options. At least as far as clean energy, for the largest amount of customers served bang. I consider Natural Gas as a huge improvement over coal, or even the new, "cleaner coal," especially for that location. I wish we could all just convert our vehicles to CNG as quickly as possible.
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It is a natural gas plant.

And there is a $3,000 tax credit from the state for anyone buying a CNG vehicle that hasnt already received the credit. If I were to buy one, my company would pay an additional $2K toward it. haha, yeah... I haven't bought one yet though. However I drive a car that gets 32 hwy 26 city... so not too bad, yet.
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