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Renton · #**4681** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 6:11 PM**

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Hendrik Hoefer

Looks like the Memorial is coming along well

NYonward · #**4682** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 7:20 PM**

Pataki named this tower "Freedom Tower", it was politics disguising itself as patriotism. Changing the name to 1 World Trade Center is righting a wrong in my opinion.

After what has happened with the right-wing's "freedom" spreading over the years since the attacks, and the drubbing they got in the elections...I can't believe anyone still clings on to this name.

Plokoon11 · #**4683** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 7:24 PM**

Yeah its official on the headlines for CNN it said developers dropped name Freedom Tower for WTC1.

SD_Phil · #**4684** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 10:40 PM**

^I doubt people will stop calling it the freedom tower though just like people will still call the sears tower the sears tower. 1 world trade center not only isn't as catchy but it also evokes the 9/11 attacks in the minds of many. While 'freedom tower' may not be the best name for it i bet it sticks.

NYguy · #**4685** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 11:20 PM**

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Yeah its official on the headlines for CNN it said developers dropped name Freedom Tower for WTC1.

A misreading. They haven't "dropped" the name Freedom Tower, they're using the proper name, which is 1 WTC, to market the building. And that's nothing new, they've been doing it for a couple of years now, it's just only being talked about now.

NYguy · #**4686** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 11:28 PM**

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Whatever happened to the Freedom Stone, anyway?? I note that it doesn't actually have the words "Freedom Tower" carved into it - maybe the PA can get over its aversion to the "F-word" and actually use the corner stone?

Keep in mind that the PA wanted nothing to do with the Freedom Tower in the first place. It was "forced" on the agency in an attempt to make it easier for Larry Silverstein to build the other towers.

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Originally Posted by tonyo

Pataki named this tower "Freedom Tower", it was politics disguising itself as patriotism. Changing the name to 1 World Trade Center is righting a wrong in my opinion.

After what has happened with the right-wing's "freedom" spreading over the years since the attacks, and the drubbing they got in the elections...I can't believe anyone still clings on to this name.

And to think, people still insists on calling that statue out in the harbor "Liberty". Go figure.

I know a lot of people forget the origins of this tower, but I'll repeat it. It's nothing political, but the tower was and is planned as a symbol of American independence. If you have a problem with the tower's name, you have a problem with it being 1,776 ft. But when you get one, you get the other. Before Pataki branded it the Freedom Tower, it was the 1776 Building. None of this was by accident, it's very site specific. At least to the people who have not forgotten that this was and still is the site of the 9/11 attacks.

But you can call it by either name, the Freedom Tower or 1 WTC. They're both accurate, so it's quite alright.

NYguy · #**4687** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 11:35 PM**

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JDRCRASH · #**4688** Posted **Mar 29, 2009, 12:32 AM**

I still consider it "Freedom Tower".

CHAPINM1 · #**4689** Posted **Mar 29, 2009, 12:50 AM**

People will definetly be divided because I will only, and only call it either WTC Tower 1 or 1 WTC. The name Freedom Tower just reminds of how much horse — we all had to sit back and watch during the early years of politicing of what was going to happen with the site.

NYonward · #**4690** Posted **Mar 29, 2009, 12:52 AM**

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And to think, people still insists on calling that statue out in the harbor "Liberty". Go figure.

I know a lot of people forget the origins of this tower, but I'll repeat it. It's nothing political, but the tower was and is planned as a symbol of American independence. If you have a problem with the tower's name, you have a problem with it being 1,776 ft. But when you get one, you get the other. Before Pataki branded it the Freedom Tower, it was the 1776 Building. None of this was by accident, it's very site specific. At least to the people who have not forgotten that this was and still is the site of the 9/11 attacks.

But you can call it by either name, the Freedom Tower or 1 WTC. They're both accurate, so it's quite alright.

9/11 wasn't about Freedom. Our response ought not be some "Braveheart" cinematic moment. And even bringing in the conversation the Statue of Liberty is completely ridiculous - 1776 feet or not. "Freedom Tower" is entirely political, George Pataki's coinage was his party's narrow view of the attacks and our response.

I know some people like the name, I think it's silly.

NewYorker2009 · #**4691** Posted **Mar 29, 2009, 2:03 AM**

I have to say the name "Freedom Tower" was awkward. It didn't fit New York. One World Trade Center sounds professional. What would someone working there answer when someone asks them "So where do you work?" "I work in the Freedom Tower." Come on that's ridiculous. One World Trade Center is more appropriate. Just as the PA and Bloomberg said. People can call it whatever they want. The same concept applied to the original World Trade Center where the Towers were addressed as One and Two World Trade Center and people called them the North and South Towers or Twin Towers. Well we do have 7 WTC. So naming it 1 WTC would be a better fit as Silverstein will later name his buildings 2 WTC, 3 WTC, and 4 WTC. Their alternate names would be 200 Greenwich street, 175 Greenwich street, and 150 Greenwich street.

JACKinBeantown · #**4692** Posted **Mar 29, 2009, 2:11 AM**

"Freedom" was a word used an awful lot by our illustrious last president, and I'll be happy to not have the name of this important building in any way remind me (and others, I'm sure) of him.

Muskavon · #**4693** Posted **Mar 29, 2009, 3:03 AM**

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"Freedom" was a word used an awful lot by our illustrious last president, and I'll be happy to not have the name of this important building in any way remind me (and others, I'm sure) of him.

That's the good news Jack. I don't expect much mention of "freedom" for a long while on any number of buildings or political issues. Score one for...er...I'll abstain.

NYguy · #**4694** Posted **Mar 29, 2009, 11:45 AM**

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And even bringing in the conversation the Statue of Liberty is completely ridiculous

I see you have already forgotten how the Freedom Tower was originally conceived. It was planned as an "echo" of the Statue of Liberty, I know because I argued repeatedly against in on this very forumn. It's also why David Childs original design for the tower had to be dropped. But it hardly matters now. It's either Freedom Tower or 1 WTC. Either is accurate.

This thread is about the building's construction. For those of you who want to continue the debate over the tower's naming, there's a thread here...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=167071

NYguy · #**4695** Posted **Mar 29, 2009, 12:05 PM**

lethibbe

Plokoon11 · #**4696** Posted **Mar 29, 2009, 3:31 PM**

Wow I just noticed in the 2nd last picture scaffolding on the concrete core top is up by a floor.

NYguy · #**4697** Posted **Mar 29, 2009, 11:27 PM**

munkibhoy

2-TOWERS · #**4698** Posted **Mar 30, 2009, 3:10 PM**

really looking good.. NYGUY should get the key to the city for his knowledge of everything going on not only with this project ,but all over the city..this massive tower will be rising in no time..

CSABA8 · #**4699** Posted **Mar 30, 2009, 4:10 PM**

Yes ! NYguy should be the new mayor ... he do more for NYC than many politic

37TimPPG · #**4700** Posted **Mar 30, 2009, 7:32 PM**

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really looking good.. NYGUY should get the key to the city for his knowledge of everything going on not only with this project ,but all over the city..this massive tower will be rising in no time..

NYGUY's pictures of the FT are epic!