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canadate · #**4661** Posted **Mar 27, 2009, 9:56 PM**

Well I don't think that "The Freedom Tower" was such a dumb name. I think it's very fitting for the building. I don't care what anyone says "One World Trade Center" or whatever it'll be called will always be The Freedom Tower in my eyes. It seems like a lot of people have forgotten the initial motivation for this project; it's really sad.

genop · #**4662** Posted **Mar 27, 2009, 9:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by canadate

Well I don't think that "The Freedom Tower" was such a dumb name. I think it's very fitting for the building. I don't care what anyone says "One World Trade Center" or whatever it'll be called will always be The Freedom Tower in my eyes. It seems like a lot of people have forgotten the initial motivation for this project; it's really sad.

lets face it the only REAL motivation behind it is money

CHAPINM1 · #**4663** Posted **Mar 27, 2009, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by genop

lets face it the only REAL motivation behind it is money

AND restoring what was there including the skyline!!!

New Skyline · #**4664** Posted **Mar 27, 2009, 10:37 PM**

Just checking Every Once in a while... (yes i know, should check more often)

According to http://www.lowermanhattan.info:

"One World trade Center (Freedom Tower's) south Core is more than 130 Feet above grade and rising"

Last updated on March 27, 2009

genop · #**4665** Posted **Mar 27, 2009, 10:44 PM**

i found this video on nytimes.com
http://video.nytimes.com/video/2009/03/1...he-freedom-tower-rises.html?ref=nyregion

Wheelingman04 · #**4666** Posted **Mar 27, 2009, 11:47 PM**

Either name is fine with me.

kazpmk · #**4667** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 2:42 AM**

I have to say the name "freedom Tower" always sounded a bit corny to me. And I'm a conservative! lol. I think the memorial and the new office towers themselves in there own right can make the site "patriotic" and show America's triumph over terrorism without the need of a corny name like freedom tower.

aspirehigher · #**4668** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 4:28 AM**

"The Freedom Tower" —...

"One World Trade Center" Too wordy.

What if we combined the two?!

Freedom One

photoLith · #**4669** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 6:46 AM**

Now thats actually pretty sweet. Freedom One, has a nice ring to it.

nickkoto · #**4670** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 6:55 AM**

I would be thrilled if they changed the name from Freedom Tower and I'm glad we're finally starting to tone down the post-9/11 nationalism. It was kind of understandable to a point, but Freedom Tower, the sudden introduction of God Bless America at the 7th inning stretch, entire rows of Wal-Mart with flag paraphenalia, you can't get away from it.

Hell, you still can't even go to Sea World without a "please give a round of applause for the men and women of our armed services" before they let Shamu into the pool. I say this as a veteran of 8 years myself, it's not the place for that. Most of them would rather not hear it on their day off anyway, but it's an international destination for —'s sake. Why should all of those Japanese and Canadian tourists be inundated with that?

Anyhow, I think if they absolutely have to make some kind of statement with the new towers, they should use the exact same names and build something even more spectacular. Freedom Tower is too reminiscent of "freedom fries."

NYguy · #**4671** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 11:40 AM**

Well, this is all a debate over nothing, and it's already gotten tiresome. Of course, those who regularly follow the progress of this building and the other WTC towers (yes, they are all the "World Trade Center") know that this tower is 1 WTC. "Freedom Tower" is just a name that was given to it. Love it, or hate it, but it's no more inappropriate than giving the building a specific height of 1,776 ft to mark the beginning of America's independence. As such, the name is fitting.

But it hardly matters. Nothing was "changed", the Port Authority is just using what the building is designated as - 1 WTC - instead of Freedom to market the building. Larry Silverstein chose to do the opposite, marketing the other WTC towers as 200, 175, and 150 Greenwich Street. That doesn't make it not the World Trade Center. The original World Trade Center was more commonly referred to as the "Twin Towers". No one ever said I'm going to the top of "2 WTC".

NYguy · #**4672** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 11:45 AM**

A little more from an earlier article
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/28/nyregion/28freedom.html?_r=1&ref=nyregion

A Debate at Ground Zero Over Which Name Will Last

By DAVID W. DUNLAP
March 28, 2009

On Thursday, in an announcement that the Vantone Industrial Co. of China had signed on as a tenant, the authority referred to the building as “One World Trade Center (The Freedom Tower).” After The Daily Newsand The New York Post pounced — critically reporting the naming shift on their front pages on Friday — a debate erupted.

The authority was at pains to say that nothing had really changed in the last few months. “We’ve referred to the primary building planned for the site as 1 World Trade Center — its legal name and street address — for almost two years now, as well as using the name the Freedom Tower,” said Stephen Sigmund, the chief of public and government affairs at the authority.

“Many will always refer to it as the Freedom Tower,” he continued, “but as the building moves out of the planning stage and into full construction and leasing (the building is now 10 stories above ground), we believe that, going forward, it is most practical to market the building as 1 World Trade Center.”

NYguy · #**4673** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 11:55 AM**

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03282009/news/regionalnews/free_deep_down_inside_161692.htm

'FREE' DEEP DOWN INSIDE
PATRIOTIC NAME ON TOWER BEAM

By JEREMY OLSHAN and KEVIN FASICK
March 28, 2009

Sorry, Port Authority: Freedom is written in steel.

No matter what the agency tries to rename the skyscraper rising from Ground Zero, the words "Freedom Tower" are permanently written into the building's bones. A steel beam painted with the American flag and "Freedom Tower" spelled out in giant letters was used to form the base of the building's frame in December 2006.

Bloomberg said New Yorkers may still end up calling the building the Freedom Tower, just as the original World Trade Center was more often called "the Twin Towers."

"Many will always refer to it as the Freedom Tower," said PA spokesman Stephen Sigmund. Freedom Tower was never the official name of the building, and the words were never going to appear outside or inside the structure, Sigmund said.

But as recently as last May, the agency trademarked the name to license a slew of merchandise.

Will "Freedom Tower" still be used on souvenirs? "That remains to be seen," Sigmund said.

Construction crews working at Ground Zero and tourists visiting the site agreed the name should stand.

"Of course it should be called the Freedom Tower," construction worker Joe Grusel said. "It's supposed to symbolize something."

South Korean tourist S.M. Park agreed.

"Everybody in Korea already knows it as the Freedom Tower," Park, 42, said. "Everybody in the world knows it as the Freedom Tower. That's perfectly marketable."

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I don't suppose the Port Authority will be using the "Freedom Stone"...

NY Times

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg was joined by two governors, George E. Pataki of New York and James E. McGreevey of New Jersey, at the 2004 unveiling of the Freedom Tower cornerstone, which has since been put in storage. Mr. Pataki’s successor will have a big say in the project.

Renton · #**4674** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 12:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by kazpmk

I have to say the name "freedom Tower" always sounded a bit corny to me. And I'm a conservative! lol. I think the memorial and the new office towers themselves in there own right can make the site "patriotic" and show America's triumph over terrorism without the need of a corny name like freedom tower.

I agree. Tower one is probably what I'll call it.

NYguy · #**4675** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 12:12 PM**

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NYguy · #**4676** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 12:32 PM**

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CoolCzech · #**4677** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 4:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

"Of course it should be called the Freedom Tower," construction worker Joe Grusel said. "It's supposed to symbolize something."

South Korean tourist S.M. Park agreed.

"Everybody in Korea already knows it as the Freedom Tower," Park, 42, said. "Everybody in the world knows it as the Freedom Tower. That's perfectly marketable."

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Everybody except our wonderful sophisticated "elite," I guess.

Something tells me this decision was made by the same marketing gurus that that thought it would be a good idea to have Superman stand for "Truth, Justice, and All that Stuff" in the last Superman movie that came out last year. I hear that as wonderfully sophisticated and non-corny as that was, the movie sank into oblivion...

It might come as a shocker to the PA, but many out there in the passport-carrying world actually LIKE "Freedom."

CoolCzech · #**4678** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 4:38 PM**

Whatever happened to the Freedom Stone, anyway?? I note that it doesn't actually have the words "Freedom Tower" carved into it - maybe the PA can get over its aversion to the "F-word" and actually use the corner stone?

MercurySky · #**4679** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 5:39 PM**

I like 1 World Trade Center better personally. To each their own I guess.

Boquillas · #**4680** Posted **Mar 28, 2009, 5:40 PM**

On the one hand, I have a lot of contempt for the patriotic zeal and overbearing nationalism of a name like "Freedom Tower"--not because I dislike freedom-- we know that's not where the name came from. The name is about legitimizing the myopic, straw-man, "terrorists hate freedom" explanation for why our nation was attacked.

On the other hand, say it long enough and it becomes just a name--the content is forgotten. Sears Tower just recalls the building for me-- I don't think of the company (although the new name —). People will likely ignore the concept in the name, and just associate it with the building.