PHILADELPHIA | American Commerce Center | 1,510' Pinnacle / 1,210' Roof | 63 FLOORS

[hammersklavier]

Philly is behind the economic trend. It's one of the healthiest metro areas right now, far healthier than the Sunbelt. Unfortunately, we tend to bear the brunt of economic meltdowns about the time when the national economy actually starts recovering, which usually puts us about five years behind everybody else...

[philadelphiathrives]

Originally Posted by hammersklavier

Philly is behind the economic trend. It's one of the healthiest metro areas right now, far healthier than the Sunbelt. Unfortunately, we tend to bear the brunt of economic meltdowns about the time when the national economy actually starts recovering, which usually puts us about five years behind everybody else...

There's always something to whine about!

[CrazyFinger]

Been awhile since I posted on this thread. Im all for this building.... But there is one small point I agree with the people at KH, although my reasons are different... I think Market East needs some height.... Lets start pushing the skyline eastward.... But you see I understand how things work.... this lot is owned by the people who want to build it.... I guess the greyhairs feel that this building can just be built anywhere.... build it now.....

[williamphilapa]

It's been a while since I looked at the website...when I looked today it was changed up a bit.

...may have been changed 3-4 months ago though

http://www.acctower.com/

[Ninjawho]

I believe thats a new update! Thanks for checking up on that

[scalziand]

Are those SSP diagrams there?

[We Got Five]

Yes, the site has been updated slightly to include floor plans and other additional information. This must have happened in the last 2-3 months.

[Don098]

I think it's looked this way ever since Swinefeld alerted us to the change sometime last year...

[Londonee]

For what it's worth, i was told by a parking lot attendant today on this building's lot at 18th and Arch that their parking operation is going away come June and signs will start appearing indicating this sometime in May.

In his words, clearing the lot for construction purposes.

[Ninjawho]

Originally Posted by Londonee

For what it's worth, i was told by a parking lot attendant today on this building's lot at 18th and Arch that their parking operation is going away come June and signs will start appearing indicating this sometime in May.

In his words, clearing the lot for construction purposes.

booy. ya.

[hammersklavier]

Sweetness! But look at the 1600 Vine lot...

So do they think they're close to a deal?

[M II A II R II K]

Originally Posted by scalziand

Are those SSP diagrams there?

Thanks for pointing that out. It turns out they stole them and put in on their site. They will be petitioned to remove them or pay up.

[Palms]

Originally Posted by hammersklavier

Sweetness!

So do they think they're close to a deal?

Today I saw 2 guys building a wooden frame on the SE corner of ACC's lot. Future diagram of ACC perhaps or a notice of parking changes?

[Ninjawho]

Originally Posted by Palms

Today I saw 2 guys building a wooden frame on the SE corner of ACC's lot. Future diagram of ACC perhaps or a notice of parking changes?

Well I've thought about a few things over the course of the day...

They wouldn't be gearing up for construction if 1. they didn't have a deal or 2. they had the final approval from the Planning Commision....right? Now they might have the deal in place and or close to it and just haven't announced anything....but I really don't think they'd be preparing for construction until they got the zoning from the city....right?

Or am I missing something?

[We Got Five]

This is very interesting news. Let's just speculate that they have a tenant(s). When is the PCC planning on giving approval? This is a huge lot that generates a lot of revenue.

[pwp]

If a deal is in place then it's possible that they won't make it public until some time has passed.

Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed!

[Cro Burnham]

Given the state of the financial sector, I seriously doubt any deal has been made. It goes against all reason. No deals are being made anywhere. Maybe they are just closing the lot so they can do some geotech investigations. But that does not mean construction is imminent. Maybe they are switching operators.

Of course I'd eat my panties with joy if I'm wrong, but let's not let ourselves get too excited.

[GarCastle]

I'm going to go ahead and speculate that they want to seem serious about the project so they will make at least the minimal investment of clearing the pavement off the lot. The sooner they do it, the sooner they can start so it is worth the minor loss of revenue from the parking fees.

They may also have some questions about the literal lot in mind and need to start probing the ground to confirm some things or whatever. /shrug.

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by GarCastle

I'm going to go ahead and speculate that they want to seem serious about the project so they will make at least the minimal investment of clearing the pavement off the lot. The sooner they do it, the sooner they can start so it is worth the minor loss of revenue from the parking fees.

They may also have some questions about the literal lot in mind and need to start probing the ground to confirm some things or whatever. /shrug.

That sounds about right. These pre-construction signs come and go all the time. 20th and Market anyone? Or the huge original Venturi symphony hall sign complete with architect's rendering.

[volguus zildrohar]

The ACC diagrams are up on the corners along 18th Street and Arch Street.