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Old Posted Mar 13, 2009, 5:53 PM
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I thought I would collect up all the recent project renderings. A few of these may be iffy projects most are either supposedly imminent or are already under construction. I put the Court Street Tower in the Issa category of "never gunna happen" so it is not included.








































































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Thanks for putting it all together for us(missing Buffalo Creek Casino) It's good to see so many things happening despite the national economy. I hope private construction picks up even more when the economy turns around.
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Avant condo interior renderings:





Most expensive unit w/3800 sq.ft:




http://www.buffalorising.com/2009/03/sweet-suites-at-avant.html
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that's a lot of projects!!
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2009, 7:09 PM
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I can't figure out how a hotel room layout fits with that window pattern. I alos can't figure out how the cheap Wingate brand pays for this much much much much more expensive exterior.

Also The worst thing about the former motel proposal was its site plane. where is a site plan in this proposal?
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Buffalo Skyway Adaptive Reuse/ From: bridge to building/From: gray to Green

Dear Sullymon54, see:his comments/remarks on page 96, message #1902.

I'm sorry if I offend you Sullymon54 but, I find naive, uninformed rebuttals useless, silly and not worth your time to write them or my time to read them- shame on you. I will however, consider hearing from you again once you have actually read my proposal and can then make informed and useful remarks. I am interested and open to constructive criticism and could even use your help to improve my concept if you can come out from behind the curtain O' Mighty Oz. Of course, you may have to reframe from shallow sniping. Can you except the challenge?

My concept proposal can be viewed at www.ranwebber.com or you can email me directly at [email protected], or you can call me at 885-5835. As you may already know the Buffalo News article titled "An innovative use of the Skyway" can be seen at http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/buffaloerie/story/600897.html

Sullymon54: I have photo examples to open your eyes (answer all of your fears and apprehensions about stairs, ramps, wind and whatever). I will easily put up the effort if, in exchange for converting you to a "True Believer", you will then join the band wagon and carry a trumpet to blow the good word forth.

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in exchange for converting you to a "True Believer", you will then join the band wagon and carry a trumpet to blow the good word forth.
I'll carry and blow the trumpet when an important building like the statler receives the investment it deserves, a “buffalo city tower” gets built, or buffalo is able to reverse its population loss.
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2009, 12:17 AM
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To “Fortyunate4Now” & Sullymon54. Silly, silly, silly drivel! Published prove that a mind is a terrible thing to waste, and apparently the time that it takes to waste it as well.

If any of you obviously challenged Brainiacs are courageous enough to actually read and learn something before you naively and foolishly sound off then please read Ran Webber's(my) "Skyway to the Future" Proposal, watch the 31 supporting videos or the Quicktime slideshow presentation. It can be found at www.ranwebber.com

This is the proposal of a guy(me) who's spent the past a half century in engineering and architectural design rooms and who has a professional reputation for thinking outside the box. Employed by Bell Aerospace/Textron he worked on many highly creative and technical contracts for NASA and the US military. He's not some guy who fell off a bar stool uttering uninformed critiques and opinions about things he knew vaguely about. This is a serious proposal.

This proposal is offered for the consideration of Buffalo's citizens and leaders of Buffalo who may not know that American buildings are responsible for 40% of world's greenhouse gas emissions. It also offers a plan to: significantly reduce a new buildings greenhouse gas emissions, create 1/2 million square feet of new multi-use floor space, save $100 million tax dollars for demolition costs, create a energy self-sufficient prototype building that would showcase at least two dozen new and emerging Green technologies, serve as a signature example of what could be creatively done with our nation's aging infrastructure and create a environmental technology and manufacturing center that could serve as a focal point for a new era of Green Commerce for Buffalo and WNY. From Grain to Green, from Past to Future should be the rallying call.

Throughout Europe one who travels can still find many of the aqueducts built during the times of the ancient Roman Empire. Buffalo has a unique and notable "Autoduct"(my word) that was created during the post WWII Cold War Era. It is a notable example of highway engineering designed to move large numbers of people out of and around the city in case of nuclear attack. With its Art Deco/International Style structural supports(Bents) and its mile long serpentine curve, it has for a half -century been the signature structure of the skyline and silhouette of Buffalo. Should we shortsightedly take it down, like Frank Lloyd Wright's Larkin Building, only to be realized by a future generation that we acted without thinking creatively. The Buffalo Skyway does not separate the Inner and Outer waterfronts - It is Buffalo's waterfront. Let's save it, creatively and sensibly re-engineer and develope it and move on to the really big issues of saving the country and the globe from environmental and economic disaster! Do we really think the world needs yet another landfill - filled with Buffalo Skyway debris? Saving Buffalo's Canal Era historical heritage has its place but it's really time we face and look towards the future. Every new building in Buffalo as well as our vehicles from now on needs to be as environmentally efficient as Green Technology will allow. I don't believe that there's a choice any longer - I believe it is imperative!!! - watch the 31 videos, then go back to your bar stool and you'll have something to really think or drink about!
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2009, 12:50 AM
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Sorry, but the Skyway is an eyesore, it's in the way, and it should be removed completely. You have an interesting concept, but in a community with scarce resources, spending it on preserving something that has outlived its purpose and welcome, seems like a waste. It should never have been built on the waterfront and it is time for it to go. Not reused. Removed. Just my two cents.
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2009, 1:44 AM
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To “Fortyunate4Now” & Sullymon54. Silly, silly, silly drivel! Published prove that a mind is a terrible thing to waste, and apparently the time that it takes to waste it as well.
You misspelled my user name and I think you meant "proof" which very ironic given your statement about my "mind".

I took my time, watched your video, and read your proposal. I still feel the same. But hey, good luck. You can stop the 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 match and insults. This isn’t a tupperware party, it's a city forum. You don't have to sell anything to us.
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2009, 5:11 AM
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Sorry, but the Skyway is an eyesore, it's in the way, and it should be removed completely. You have an interesting concept, but in a community with scarce resources, spending it on preserving something that has outlived its purpose and welcome, seems like a waste. It should never have been built on the waterfront and it is time for it to go. Not reused. Removed. Just my two cents.
I agree completely.
The Skyway will never be seen in the same light as a Frank Lloyd Wright building. Elevated expressways are the result of (as we now see) flawed transportation planning policies. This one is wasting valuable waterfront property and should be torn down ASAP.

I give you credit on your interesting concept though.
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2009, 7:05 AM
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Great list of renderings Steel. Thanks! I'm loving the Avant condo. It looks like the most expensive units have a base price of $1,730,000. 8 units out of 27 over 1 million? That's pretty good for us in the great lakes cities. Hope they sell well!
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2009, 3:39 PM
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I have a question regarding Mr. Webber's Skyway proposal and those against it; Let's say we do take it down "which in reality will NEVER happen"... (and that's the truth by the way), what do you vision being built in that long narrow strip of freed up land?
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Mr. Webber, I apologize if I offended you in anyway. I can see how my comments could be construed as cutting and mean spirited, I never meant for them to be taken in that context. In the future I will have to take pause in the way I word things and tone in which they are written. What I was trying to do was write a clear, to the point response to your proposal. Also, this is just my opinion, its not meant to be any kind of declaration, I have no power or clout behind what I say to change peoples minds.

That being said I do think you have great vision and it is one of the more creative ideas I've seen in quite some time. The "green aspects" of the proposal are especially interesting to me as that was the center of my master's project work. Upon your response to my post I went back and re-investigating your work and I would like to slightly modify my previous statement. For the most part however, I still agree with WCP, the Skyway is too far out of date, too large, too expensive to maintain and in too crucial a location to be preserved in its entirety. Also, I don't know how much would be going to a land fill, last time I had heard a large portion of the steel from the Aud is going to china for a good price because they can't find good structural steel over there. Either way, I believe it has to be totally removed south and west of the foot of Main Street and all associated ramps and connections to Downtown and 190 removed. Building down to the ground on the outer as you have proposed would make create more of a barrier (essentially a wall) than what is already there and it would not allow for the construction of a bridge putting main street, at grade across to the outer harbor which I would argue is a better move. In response to Bison 716, Every effort should be made to construct a true parkway on the Outer Harbor with multiple connections to the city. These could include the Erie Basin Marina, Main Street, Michigan Avenue, Chicago Street, and Louisiana Street, the more the better. The vacant, on both sides of the Buffalo River would then be accessible and their for valuable to someone, I'm sure wouldn't have too much trouble finding a developer for it.

In an effort to bridge the divide between totally tearing it down and reusing all of it how about only reusing the final three segments of it starting from the foot of main street heading north. This would be done using all the aspects that are outlined in your proposal and I think would work relatively well. It fits in the street grid, it would fit, with some modification, into the canalside plan and not get in the way of developing connections to the outer harbor. I think coupling an enclosed rooftop garden with the proposed weather experience museum backed by Don Paul and people from the Buffalo Niagara Partnership that could be constructed on the floors below would serve many purposes. You'd preserve some of the Skyway for its historic value, use green technology and actually create a usable space on a manageable scale, you would get great views of the city, water and Canada, and lastly you would have a ready tenant for the project when it is completed.

How does that sound to everyone?

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Do you think Forbes may have gone back and looked at a broader set of information before just going with the first thing they saw and running with it? Hopefully the recent articles they have published have garnered enough backlash to make them think before the print next time.


America's Downsized Cities
By Lauren Sherman, Forbes.com
Mar 20th, 2009


The populations of these metropolitan areas are declining. Here's why.

In a way, it's the same old story: The Rust Belt, comprised of blue-collar cities where the manufacturing industry once dominated, can't seem to find a way to thrive.

Take Pittsburgh. Despite the fact that the city's steel industry began to deteriorate all the way back in the 1970s, the city is still better known for its mills than for its $10.8 billion stake in the technology and life-science sectors, including companies like Bayer, BPL Global and Plextronics.

Same goes for Buffalo, N.Y. Once a great producer of steel and automobiles, the city's bioinformatics research industry is now flourishing. Yet just like Pittsburgh, Buffalo is shedding population.

To be direct: If Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel or John Mellencamp has written a melancholy song about your city, it's probably on this list.

And that's the problem. General perceptions of these Rust Belt cities--that they're backward, dilapidated and cultureless--are often too harsh. And that's why, over the last decade, these areas have seen the biggest decreases in population, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

"Reputations die hard," says Kathryn Foster, director of the University at Buffalo's Institute for Local Governance and Regional Growth.

The plight of these cities is double edged. A lackluster reputation often keeps potential newcomers away, while young adults born there tend to flee because of a lack of a diverse range of opportunities. However, many of those born and bred in the area do return when its time to "settle down," according to Foster.

Yet Sean C. Safford, a business professor at the University of Chicago and author of Why the Garden Club Couldn't Save Youngstown: The Transformation of the Rust Belt, says that it has a lot more to do with a area's business infrastructure than its "ick" factor.

Youngstown, for example, "had an economy that basically grew up in another era," he says. When the steel industry began its decline in the 1970s, Youngstown moved on to another failing industry: autos. The few companies that have adapted to the new economy have kept globally competitive by outsourcing, which is good for their finances but bad for Youngstown.
Behind the Numbers

To determine America's Downsized Cities, we used 2008 population estimates for the 125 largest metropolitan statistical areas in the U.S., released Thursday by the Census Bureau. We compared those estimates with 2007 population estimates to determine the percent change year-over-year. Then we looked at the percent change in population from 2000 to 2007. We combined those two rankings--weighting down the more relevant 2007-2008 percent change--for a final ranking.

While migration has slowed in general, these metro areas saw an actual decrease in population, whereas others stayed flat or continued to grow, if at a decreased pace.

The state that's suffering the most is Ohio, with four cities on the list.

Topping the list is Youngstown, Ohio, which, like Pittsburgh, suffered from the decline of the steel industry and never fully recovered. Dayton is similarly depressed: Late last year, one of its biggest employers, General Motors, shut down its plant in the city. In Toledo, the unemployment rate is 9.8% (the national average is 8.1%), and manufacturing jobs decreased by 16% in January 2009 from January 2008.

And while the economy in Cleveland is diversified--from the Cleveland Clinic to NASA's Glenn Research Center to the headquarters of paint and building-supply company Sherwin-Williams--it's not viewed as a shining star of the Midwest.

But Youngstown has it the worst, seeing the biggest population declines: a 0.8% drop from 2007 to 2008 and a 5.4% decrease from 2000 to 2007. Next was Flint, Mich., with a 1.2% drop from 2007 to 2008 and -0.3% from 2000 to 2007.
On the Bright Side

Some metro areas, like Detroit, ranked fourth, and Flint (both of which continue to experience devastation as the U.S. automobile industry collapses), have enough systemic problems to continually drive their populations away. But other cities on the list do possess a few oft-overlooked bright spots, indicating that negative perceptions keep new residents from coming as quickly as others leave.

Buffalo, for example, saw a 0.8% increase in housing value over the last year. Sure, the median home price is just $106,200, but home values have decreased by 30% in some parts of the country over that same period.

And in Youngstown, local officials have established the Youngstown Business Incubator, a nonprofit organization partially funded by the state government that aims to accelerate the growth rates of local tech start-ups.

But these positive notes can only help so much. Foster, whose job is to come up with business strategies to further develop Buffalo, says that what these areas really need is better marketing.

"When I moved to Buffalo, I carried the same misconceptions that most do. What I found was jaw dropping" she says of the city's architecture and cultural offerings. "Efforts to market the region are so important."

But Safford think it goes further than that. "It's about competitive companies," he says. "We'd all like to think that Seattle is popular because it's cool, but come one, it's because of Amazon and Microsoft: companies that generate cash. They're not stuck in the past."
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Looks like you'll get you wish Westcoast, if we get the funding:

http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/story/617241.html

With the blessing of the city council!
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Cool what project is this?

Steel, I loved your photos of projects, I have a question:
Which project is the sort of cylindrical towers?
the one with the colorful glazing which also included a site plan and interior lobby. Where did you find it. Is it a project that is movinfg forward.
I find the architecture very progressive.
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