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City OKs housing project
Published Tuesday February 24th, 2009
Low income | Building to house offices, 12 apartment units
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By HEATHER MCLAUGHLIN
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An office and 12-unit low-income housing project for Main Street was approved unanimously by city council Monday night.

The John Howard Society wants to demolish older homes at 294-296 Main St., between Cityview Avenue and Tim Hortons on the north side, to build a street-level office for the organization.

Twelve bachelor-style apartments will be built upstairs using federal-provincial funding.

The project stirred controversy in the business and residential area of Main Street after a petition was circulated saying the building would be a halfway house for criminals.

Two weeks ago, a number of businesses and residents stated their opposition to the project, one even vowing to move from the neighbourhood. Councillors also received a 23-name petition against it.

Ward Coun. Mike O'Brien held an open house last week to try to dispel fears.

John Howard Society representatives participated in the session and explained to a number of neighbours that most of the residents will be social assistance recipients or the near-homeless, not hardened criminals.

Business Fredericton North questioned the city's decision to reduce the required number of parking spaces for the project.

The planning advisory committee agreed to cut the requirement for 29 parking spaces to 25 spaces, saying residents are unable to afford a vehicle and need access to nearby services and amenities such as public transit.

"Our municipal plan does allow some consideration for reduced parking for affordable housing developments," O'Brien said. "The 25 parking spots will be quite adequate."

The plan encourages the city to incorporate affordable housing projects within its boundaries, O'Brien said.

"The shelters are overloaded and a lot of the people who are in shelters, if they had an opportunity to live in a spot like this, could better their lives," O'Brien said.

Although the John Howard Society does operate halfway houses in the province, this application isn't for a residence for ex-convicts, O'Brien said.

"Everybody deserves a place to live," said Coun. Scott McConaghy, who backed the project.

Coun. Stephen Chase said he'd like to see more residential space incorporated into the downtowns of both sides of the river.

Mayor Brad Woodside said he was proud that council faced the affordable housing issue head on.

"I think what we're really providing here is that everybody deserves a home in dignity and this community is showing that it can be done, it is being done and those that are completing these developments are doing a darn good job at it," Woodside said.

The mayor said as projects are successfully developed over the years, it will be easier to have the public support such housing options.
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Plan of Future Knowledge Park

Hey folks, here is a plan I found for the proposed Knowledge Park off ther Web site. Looks pretty nice. This is my first posting...former Frederictonian living in Toronto now. If this is built, then congrats!

http://www.knowledgepark.ca/en/pdf/knowledge-park-master-development-plan.pdf
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That plan looks decent to me.
Alot of trees and lakes would make it a nice little area to drive through.
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Province buys market
Published Thursday February 26th, 2009
Deal closes Friday | Price for property is $1.1 million
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By SHAWN BERRY
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The provincial government is set to acquire the Boyce Farmers Market property for $1.1 million.

The Daily Gleaner has learned the transaction is to be completed Friday as part of a deal that will see the City of Fredericton lease the downtown landmark. Operation of the weekly market will be left to a not-for-profit board, Newmarket Properties Inc.

The city's five-year lease, at a nominal fee of $1 a year, begins April 1.

Business New Brunswick Minister Greg Byrne and Fredericton-Silverwood MLA Rick Miles, who both worked behind the scenes on the deal, said the province and the city are doing all they can to ensure market patrons don't notice any change in the coming months.

"It will be a seamless transaction. It will be business as usual," Byrne said Wednesday.

The $1.1-million price is below the $1.5 million York County Properties was seeking. It's also above the 2008 property assessment of $800,500.

The purchase was approved by the provincial cabinet earlier this month.

"We're pleased that the market will continue to exist long into the future and be a venue for local vendors, local produce and products (such as) samosas," Byrne said.

The market is integral to the local economy, he said, and it's an icon for culture and tourism.

"This ensures it will continue to be in operation," said Byrne, who's among the throngs of Fredericton residents who have plenty of memories linked to the market.

He remembers getting up early on Saturdays as a child and heading down to the market with his father, Paul.

"We'd watch the crowds, watch the market being set up, talk to vendors and I'd have a treat of fresh-baked cookies,'' Byrne said.

Today, he likes to get a little taste of everything.

"I like the fresh-squeezed orange juice, fresh bread, samosas and whatever else catches my attention. That's the beauty of the market. It has something for everyone."

Byrne said separate boards are being set up for the market building and for the Saturday operations.

He said Fredericton-area MLAs felt strongly that the province needed to buy the property. The province leases the market property on weekdays to provide parking for civil servants.

If the province hadn't used its first rights to purchase the building, the property could have gone onto the market to be sold to commercial or residential developers.

"We could not risk that this property might undergo a different use."

No staffing changes are planned, he said.

Miles said all four local MLAs worked hard on the file.

"It touches home with a lot of people. It's important to us that the market remain," he said.

Miles said the market has always been part of home for him. When he was stationed in Germany as a radar operator with the Canadian Forces, he thought about what people would be doing at the market on Saturday.

"I missed not being able to go," he said. "And when I would come back, I made sure I went."

Former mayor Elbridge Wilkins said it wasn't his preferred outcome, but he's happy with it nonetheless.

"I'm very pleased that the government is taking it over and the city is going to help operate it," he said.

"It's the second best thing that could happen," said Wilkins who was the York County council member from Douglas in 1966 when county councils were being disbanded and the council had to find a way to protect the council's assets.

His preference would have been to see a market board get the $1.1 million so it could invest in improvements.

"This is a lot better than it landing in the hands of someone else and being pressed out of existence," he said. "I think it's going to work out."

The market, which opened in 1951, came about when English immigrant William Walter Boyce, who made his money in agriculture and lumber, left $40,000 out of his estate to the Municipality of York to build a market to replace the former Phoenix Square market.

While some have questioned whether York County Properties had the right or the authority to sell the market, Byrne said the province has no concerns.

"We were aware of some of the concerns over the property. We did seek a legal opinion over whether York County Properties had legal ownership and the right to sell. We were satisfied they had the requisite rights to sell the property."

Ken McGeorge, executive director of York County Properties, said it also sought legal advice on the issue.

"There have been all sorts of lawyers looking at that question and there is no question we own it. The title is free and clear of any encumbrance. The only restriction was that we offer it to the province first."

McGeorge said the group had always planned to sell to someone who would maintain the market under its current vocation.

He said the board of York County Properties, which also operates York Care Centre, wanted to divest itself of the market and devote its efforts on health care for the elderly.

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Water supply won't be affected
Published Thursday February 26th, 2009
Up the hill | Wellfield officer says impact from Costco minor
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By HEATHER MCLAUGHLIN
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Building a Costco store at the University of New Brunswick's Corbett retail centre will have virtually no impact on the city's drinking water supply, says Fredericton's wellfield protection officer.

The development at the top of Regent Street doesn't fall within the city's wellfield protection area. Even so, the Corbett Centre was reviewed by a hydro geologist who was asked to provide the city with advice on the proposed location of the Costco store.

"The groundwater contribution to the (drinking water) aquifer from the Costco development footprint would be less than one-tenth of one-half of one per cent," said Kathy Edwards, the city's wellfield protection officer.

"If this contribution is removed, the water will simply be replaced by an increased amount from the river.

"The effect on groundwater withdrawals from the downtown plat will be negligible."

Members of the Friends of the UNB woodlot and the Conservation Council of New Brunswick have raised concerns about the impact of developing the area for retail shopping, contending it will affect water recharge in the Fredericton area.

Their concerns were raised at a recent public meeting called as part of a Department of Environment review of a modification to the shopping centre's environmental impact assessment approved in 2007.

As a point of principle, the two groups oppose any type of big box or retail development on the university owned wetland.

The developers have submitted a store layout design that reconfigures storm water management ponds controlling surface runoff from the parking lot and wholesale bulk store building.

Because of the design change, storm water management ponds have been repositioned and reshaped requiring a return to the province for approval of an amended environmental impact assessment.

The City of Fredericton and the provincial government mapped out a wellfield-protection strategy for the capital city in order to protect the deeply drilled wells in the downtown core that draw up water supply that's recharged by the St. John River.

In the downtown areas closest to the drilled wells, the city has banned dry-cleaning establishments and provided financial incentives to relocate them because the chemicals used in the cleaning process could destroy drinking water.

Storage of petroleum products and other potentially water-contaminating products are strictly regulated in the downtown core, but even in the downtown, the city hasn't banned gasoline stations.

"We've looked into recharge and what impact the (Costco) development might have," Edwards said.

"The bulk of our recharge for our aquifer comes from the St. John River through the ground."

Surface water also recharges the ground, but the groundwater contribution from the Costco footprint isn't significant, she said.

Edwards said Fredericton has a vested interest in checking on the impact of development on water supply.

As for concerns about a proposed gasoline bar as part of the Costco development, Edwards said gasoline stations are permitted in the wellfield protected area.

"The technology today is far and above what it used to be in terms of protecting land and water, compared to what it was," Edwards said.

The strictest rules on protecting the city's water supply are imposed in the downtown area, closest to wells.

What the Regent Street wetland does control is storm water and the absorption of rainfall from the top of the hill, which is naturally absorbed into nearby Corbett Brook.

City engineering and public works director Murray Jamer said the city requires all developers to create storm water management plans when they develop property.

So, whether it's a housing subdivision or a retail shopping centre, Jamer said the onus is on the land developer to deal with storm water attenuation to a standard of zero net increase in peak flow.

"For any development, it's the developer's responsibility to attenuate whatever increase in flows there may be," Jamer said. "With every new development, we make that a requirement."

Through techniques such as creating water detention ponds, engineers can come up with ways to slowly release collected water back into the natural environment, in this case, gradually back into Corbett Brook.

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Province to invest in five local businesses
Published Thursday February 26th, 2009
Hard to come by | Official says it's difficult for small businesses to get capital
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By DON MACPHERSON
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The province is expected to announce financial support for five businesses today in and around the capital region.

Business New Brunswick Minister Greg Byrne is expected to announce more than $300,000 from the NB Growth program will help create 24 jobs and maintain 25 others spread out among five businesses.

Among the businesses receiving funding is Howell Ventures Ltd. in Upper Kingsclear, a company that manufactures hand controls for disabled drivers.

Today's announcement is scheduled to take place at the Howell Ventures facility, The Daily Gleaner has learned.

Howell will create three jobs with the funding, which will also go to supporting 11 jobs.

A government source told the Gleaner that in total, more than $300,000 in government funding will be doled out among the five businesses.

The other four businesses involved in today's announcement are:

* the Learning Bar Inc. in Fredericton, which received funding for its expansion to meet the growing demand for its services as an online school-survey provider;

* E9 Group Inc. in Lincoln, which has developed a social-networking web application with an environmental focus and will get startup funding;

* Fredericton-based Lawrence Wood Products, which receives funding for expansion;

* and Jemseg's Gebhardt International Cedar Homes Inc., which gets funding for diversification and improved productivity.

The funding comes from the province's $3-million NB Growth program, which was established in October 2007.

The source said today's job announcements are modest in scope compared those made at previous government job-creation news events, but it's in keeping with the philosophy that most job creation happens at the small-business level.

It's difficult for small businesses to access capital, especially in the current economic climate, he said Wednesday.

The NB Growth program not only puts funds in the hands of those businesses, the source said, but that financial support in turn makes the businesses more attractive to other sources of capital.

The program provides eligible entrepreneurs with up to $100,000 to establish a new company and up to $60,000 to expand or improve an existing one.
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Hello all. I'm a first time poster and long time lurker.

Thanks to all who have been posting the Fredericton updates and all the replies. As a former Fredericton resident and someone who is looking to return, this is a great little resource to keep me up to date.

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Hey folks, here is a plan I found for the proposed Knowledge Park off ther Web site. Looks pretty nice. This is my first posting...former Frederictonian living in Toronto now. If this is built, then congrats!

http://www.knowledgepark.ca/en/pdf/knowledge-park-master-development-plan.pdf


Great find.
I'm surprised to see two buildings planned for the grounds surrounding the Hugh John Flemming Centre... much better plan than I expected. I pictured 14 more identical buildings along Knowledge Park Dr. beside the three already there.
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Hotel company eyes Fredericton
Published Saturday February 28th, 2009
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Rodd Hotels and Resorts will be looking to partner with an existing business and won't be looking to build a new hotel or resort in Fredericton, says the company's CEO.

The P.E.I.-based company announced this week that it's no longer for sale and it will focus on expanding its business and being more competitive.

The company is eyeing Halifax, Saint John and Fredericton as potential expansion sites.

"We would like to extend the reach of the brand," said CEO Ian Hurst.

"We wouldn't look to build. We're looking for an existing hotel and we would run it under the Rodd brand."

Hurst said the company isn't anywhere near announcing a presence in Fredericton.

"We're just announcing that we would like to do this," said Hurst.

The company also announced it's looking for $4.5 million in refinancing to reinvest in employees and properties.

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Governments splash cash on 'shovel-ready' projects
Published Saturday February 28th, 2009
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By ADAM BOWIE
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Millions of dollars in provincial and federal infrastructure funding will soon be flowing into communities across New Brunswick to create hundreds of jobs and protect the environment.

Premier Shawn Graham and Veterans Affairs Minister Greg Thompson told reporters the provincial and federal governments will spend $38.2 million on 32 "shovel-ready" projects.

Municipalities that receive funding will contribute $19.1 million, bringing the total investment to $57.3 million.

Thompson couldn't say exactly how many jobs will be created as a result of the projects, but said it would be in the hundreds.

Graham and Thompson made the announcement at the legion in McAdam. The village will receive $63,092 for a study of its wastewater collection system and $16,894 for a new chlorination monitoring system.

St. Stephen will receive $2.4 million to separate combined sanitary and storm water flows and renew existing water mains.

The community of Browns Flat will receive about $1.65 million for wastewater infrastructure.

Thompson said provincial and federal politicians from across New Brunswick will be rolling out the rest of the projects in their ridings.

"I think in probably the next week or so, most of them will have been announced," he said.

"There's obviously projects coming for, for example, Fredericton, and (MP Keith Ashfield) will be making those (announcements)."

He said many projects will have a green focus, but not all of them.

"They're high-priority projects which have been identified by the communities," he said.

Graham said the province wanted to put money into projects that will stimulate the economy and protect people's health.

"I'm confident today that with the investments that we're making, we're going to provide a more safe and reliable drinking water to our citizens," he said.

"We're also going to be dealing with sewage systems and the discharge of water in a more effective and safe manner."

Graham said communities across New Brunswick have been seeking funding to help them complete these kinds of infrastructure projects for years.

"It's important that we make timely investments in this aging infrastructure so we don't have a disaster occur where people's lives are in danger," he said.

"By working a partnership, at all three levels of government, we're making timely investments that put the security of our water and drinking systems at the forefront."

The premier said each community that receives funding has made arrangements to secure its portion of the necessary funding.

"We've been doing our work with the communities," he said.

"They've made applications for these funds. They have the matching dollars in place and they're ready to go, and so are we."

McAdam Mayor Frank Carroll said the funding will allow the village to improve water services and protect the environment. St. Stephen Mayor Jed Purcell said the projects will put people to work in his community over the next few years.

Harvey Mayor Winston Gamblin said his community will keep an eye on the rest of the announcements.

"We've got a couple of applications in, so we'll see what happens in the next little while, and whether we've been approved or not," he said.

Funding for these projects is contingent on the completion of all contractual agreements with the municipalities, including pending environmental impact assessments.

A second round of proposals will be called soon.
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I'm thinking of putting together an interactive project map for Fredericton like the one I put together for Moncton. I'm definitely going to need some help putting it together though. Any thoughts/suggestions?
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Some of you may know that the Fire Facility webcam at fredericton.ca says it's offline but if you go to the first page of this forum it is still working.
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I doubt I'll have much to say, but as a member of other boards it is always nice when the lurkers pop up to say hello.
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I doubt I'll have much to say, but as a member of other boards it is always nice when the lurkers pop up to say hello.
Yeah more people should join like you. We need more people in the New Brunswick threads, especially this one.
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Fredericton Makes List of Renovator-Friendly Cities

Fredericton, NB (February 27, 2009) - Fredericton has been named one of the "Top Five Renovator-Friendly Cities" in Canada by Canadian Contractor magazine. New Brunswick's Capital City joins Calgary, AB, Barrie, ON, Maple Ridge, ON, and Woodstock, ON on the list. An honourable mention was given to Airdrie, AB.

"This is a really nice honour for Fredericton," said Mayor Brad Woodside. "We have enjoyed record-breaking development over the past few years and new housing starts have been high. Despite all that, residents have continued to show pride and invest in their homes by carrying out renovations."

Fredericton was recognized not only for its recent record-breaking building activity, but for creating a renovator-friendly environment by identifying and establishing heritage preservation areas. Eight such neighbourhoods were identified in 1997, as part of the City of Fredericton Municipal Plan. The St. Anne's Point Heritage Preservation Area was established in 1984, and has approximately 350 privately-owned residences.

With some of the country's oldest housing stock, there are always homes to renovate in Fredericton. The heritage preservation area designation comes with a high set of development standards. The magazine goes on to indicate that with the heritage and cultural affairs division being part of the Development Services Department, the process of obtaining a heritage building permit has been streamlined.

With the federal government's new tax incentive for home renovations, and the downturn in the economy resulting in a decline in new housing starts and a refocusing on urban redevelopment, heritage preservation and improved efficiencies, Canadian Contractor set out to find the most renovator-friendly cities in Canada.

After six weeks of research and 50 interviews, the magazine tracked down dozens of cities willing to share their renovator-friendly stories. The list was eventually narrowed to the top five cities. The complete story appears in the February/March issue of Canadian Contactor magazine (www.canadiancontractor.ca).

Fredericton is one of the Top Seven intelligent communities in the world for 2009 and is a leader in green technologies. The municipality proudly supports heritage and culture initiatives and is a Cultural Capital of Canada for 2009. Residents enjoy an enviable and balance lifestyle.

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I just heard Freddy is being considered for a relocated QJMHL team!

I really hope you guys get it. The Mooseheads needs a new team to develop a rivalry with
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I doubt it will happen. UNB owns the Aitken Centre....they were notoriously uncooperative with the Fredericton Canadiens and seem even less so now.

Even if it does happen, there will only be the same number of teams in the Maritimes, since it looks like Bathurst is gone.
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That was actually denied, because of the team already in Montreal, so it might still happen, but not likely. If the team were to come here they might have decent attendance for the first couple seasons, but it would eventually drop off as the novelty wears off.

University hockey is as good or better than Major Junior anyway and UNB bearly draws 2,500 a game, so not great attendance given the relatively cheap ticket prices ($10). I personally would like to see the team come here, but Fredericton isnt a good hockey town.

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Maineiacs talking to UNB about 'partnership'
Published Tuesday March 3rd, 2009
QMJHL | Franchise officials interested in forging a relationship with UNB
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Officials with the Lewiston Maineiacs are exploring options with the University of New Brunswick which would allow them to move the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League franchise to Fredericton next season.

Maineiacs president and governor Matt McKnight said he and majority owner Mark Just have "reached out to find out whether people from UNB would take a call or have a meeting," to discuss whether the Maineiacs could share the 3,673 seat Aitken Centre with the building's prime tenant, the University of New Brunswick Varsity Reds.

They met with officials from the university at the Colter Room yesterday and watched the UNB Varsity Reds face the Acadia Axemen in the second game of the Atlantic University Sport Men's Hockey Conference semifinal last night. McKnight preferred not to reveal who has been involved in the conversations representing UNB, but said the officials with whom he spoke "seemed receptive to investigating the opportunity," of striking a "partnership" with the Maineiacs.

He said Fredericton is the team's only choice to relocate the struggling franchise. An attempt to shift the franchise to to the city of Boisbriand, near Montreal, was denied by the owner of the Montreal Junior, making Fredericton the number one choice.

"Fredericton right now is where all our efforts are," he said. "We're not really investigating other opportunities at this point in time."

He said the challenge from the Maineiacs' perspective is "to come up with some sort of game plan that would align a Quebec Major Junior Hockey League team with the UNB Varsity athletics program, not just with the hockey team, so that the university stands to benefit as much as our team would."

"It's not co-existing," he said. "It is by partnership. That's the only way we see the model working. Without that framework in mind, we wouldn't even be talking to the university unless we thought the athletics program at the university could benefit from this."

He suggested, for instance, that the Maineiacs have the infrastructure in place to develop "a strong marketing and sales component that will benefit the major junior team, as well as the men's hockey program as well as the other sports that fall under the athletics program. That's the only way we're thinking this could possibly work," he said. "We don't see the benefit to the university of simply leasing out the building to us. That wouldn't make any sense from the university's standpoint. We cetainly are not thinking of it that way at all."

He said he has not spoken personally with UNB head coach Gardiner MacDougall about the prospect.

"But unless he would be favourable to the concept, it would be a dead issue before it even starts," said McKnight. He would have to buy into the program. Obviously, he has one of the best university men's programs in the country. If he doesn't see positive value or benefit to some form of partnership, it's certainly not going to work. In any agreement, unless everybody wins, it's not going to be a good deal."

The UNB men's hockey program is already among the most successful in the country. Average attendance at 14 regular season home games this season according to the Atlantic University Sport men's hockey site, was 2,495.

The club drew more than 3,000 fans for a pair of exhibition games against the Boston College Eagles and University of Maine Black Bears.

MacKnight said the fact that the team's recently-hired head coach, Don MacAdam, has strong ties to Fredericton and the university -- he was UNB's head hockey coach for seven seasons before departing on a professional coaching career, is a happy coincidence.

"When we hired Don, we hired him because he was the best available person at the time," he said. "That happens to be a benefit that he brings to the table." The club's head scout, Roger Shannon, is also a Fredericton native. Shannon also holds the position of general manager with the Varsity Reds.

McKnight said the wheels must turn quickly.

"I would say within two weeks from now, we would have a pretty concrete idea if we're going to be going forward with this or not," he said. "My feeling is, we'll have a good sense on whether this can come to fruition. I don't foresee us having the final operating agreement within two weeks, but if we have the agreement in principle on the table, the i's and t's can be dotted and crossed."

One agreement would have to be on the name. Would they be the Fredericton Reds?

"We want to help align the entire program together," said McKnight. "There would have to be a co-branding in place so that when the Major Junior team is playing outside the area, it's basically flying the flag of UNB. And vice-versa when the UNB V-Reds are playing outside the area, that people can see the tie-in and the relationship and the correlation between the programs. They've got to work seamlessly together."

The Maineiacs have four regular season games remaining in their QMJHL schedule, all at home. The team is in last place in the Central Division with a 21-41-1-1 record and will miss the playoffs this season.

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Wait and see approach
Published Wednesday March 4th, 2009
Maineiacs | Dickie says UNB prepared to listen to proposals regarding jr. franchise relocating in the city
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By BILL HUNT
[email protected]

University of New Brunswick athletic director Kevin Dickie says Lewiston Maineiacs officials were "kicking tires" in a bid to find a home for the wayward Quebec Major Junior Hockey League franchise, "and for me, it was an opportunity to listen."

Dickie was among the UNB representatives who met with the Maineiacs brass, including majority owner Mark Just, team president and governor Matt McKnight, Maineiacs head scout Roger Shannon and coach Don MacAdam in the Colter Room Monday.

"These discussions...if they're good people and good partnerships, we have them all the time in different sports. You take a look at the people involved here...you're going to give them the time and space to talk to you. It would have been wrong for us not to take the time," said Dickie.

Now what? Dickie is not sure.

"At the end of the meeting, we kind of looked at each other and said 'What's the next step?'" he said. "Over the next couple of days, the different constituents at the university will voice their opinion and provide some information back to them."

But he said his focus as the school's athletic director is "maintaining what we've built and trying to make it better."

He said the university made some "tough changes" in athletics last year, reducing the number of varsity programs to eight from 14. "We did that based on the fact that we needed to change the financial model. Quite frankly, we're very happy with the financial model right now, even in these tough economic times."

Dickie said he won't allow anything to threaten the success of a men's hockey program he called "the best program in the country.

"I want to make this crystal clear," he said. "I'll be damned if anything is going to negatively affect all the hard work and passion and dedication and perseverance that's gone into building this program into the best program in the country...we will never, ever compromise that happening.

"If somebody can convince me that they can make it better, and they can convince (UNB head coach) Gardiner MacDougall that they can make it better and they can convince the university they can make it better, hey...today and 10 years from now, I'm willing to listen. We like our program right now. If there's something out there that can make our program better, I'm all ears."

McKnight said in a story published in Tuesday's The Daily Gleaner the Quebec League operation was interested in a "partnership" with the UNB athletic program. He said the Maineiacs "wouldn't even be talking to the university unless we thought the athletics program at the university could benefit from this."

Dickie hasn't heard firm details of how the Maineiacs' move could enhance the school's athletic programs other than in marketing efforts. He doesn't believe the parties are on the same page in the negotiation process.

In fact, there have been none.

"We just met for the first time (Monday)," he said. "That's the first time a couple of people met a couple of people. I don't know where a process like this starts and ends, but we're at about a one. If anything were imminent, there would be some pretty key people at the university that would have known prior to picking up the paper (yesterday)."

Dickie said there's no timetable in place for further discussion. He characterized the Monday meeting as "a meeting with good people who wanted some of our time and wanted to hear us out. We left them and we thought it was positive.

"Our focus is our overall program, and also men's hockey. Why would we consider anything that doesn't make those things the best they can be? The best part of being the athletic director at the University of New Brunswick is that we're the big game in town.

"There would have to be outstanding reasons to be a part of changing that," Dickie said.

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Doesn't sound like the University is going to go for it, given it will likely hurt their attendance. In many respects i must say i dont blame the University, but it might also be a good for them and help to promote their program
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