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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 8:09 PM
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that would be great and help the economy right now if they could go ahead with the new saint pauls.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 8:20 PM
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Its not an if but a when at this point.

and its sooner than some think.
Are you sure about this? The last time Minister Abbott mentioned anything publicly about this (around Christmas time) he had taken a posture that was more if and what form rather than it being a certainty.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 9:15 PM
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Yes, please let us know. After the initial design plan was released there was a real backing off by the government.

The fact that we have gone through federal and provincial budgets, lots of talk on infrastructure stimulus, and no mention of St. Paul's says a lot to me.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 9:19 PM
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red truck is hot hot heat... what an injection of life into such a down and out area at the moment.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 10:32 PM
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hmm well last I heard it was still a matter of when not if. I'm not quite as sure as the time line but from what I have been hearing over the past few months it is still on the drawing board. I will admit however that I am not quite as in the loop with this project, so if anyone has any more in depth information please fill us all in!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 10:45 PM
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Where is the money coming from? A project of this size has got to be in the $100+ million ballpark correct?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 10:48 PM
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More like 250M to half a billion.

And your pocket is the answer.
     
     
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I think the initial estimate was $900m, building only. Built to higher standards for a medical facility (more power, some lead walls, etc), but not including all of the equipment.

Ottawa, you listening?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 11:18 PM
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Jesus Christ, $900 million?

And by my pocket, do you mean fully funded by taxpayers? I thought I remembered some sort of donation/investment fund Providence had set up.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 11:21 PM
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BTW, there is a thread for this here
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2009, 5:30 AM
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hmm well last I heard it was still a matter of when not if. I'm not quite as sure as the time line but from what I have been hearing over the past few months it is still on the drawing board. I will admit however that I am not quite as in the loop with this project, so if anyone has any more in depth information please fill us all in!

You seem to be very much in the loop with this comment...
Originally Posted by LeftCoaster
Its not an if but a when at this point.

and its sooner than some think.

Ron.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 3:36 AM
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Trillium Park update
Staff have been preparing plans for two synthetic turf fields that will be built on the southern 2/3 of the site, away from residents to the north. A future passive park will be built on the northern 1/3 of the site, the passive park will be built after the VPD dog sqaud is relocated in 2010. Construction should start soon, cost is $4.5Million.

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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 3:44 AM
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Work will start shortly on updating Pigeon Park, apparently there is talk of renaming it back to it's original name of Pioneer Place as well. Not too much is being done as they only have $187,000 left in the International village park fund but it will get a facelight. Work will be done shortly as they will do it at the same time they are working on the Carrell St Greenway on that block.

The proposal to build a canopy in the park is no longer being pursued. It was not widely supported by the public, and a majority of City staff working in theDowntown Eastside were not supportive of building a canopy in Pigeon Park
The proposed overhead grid lighting system has also been dropped because its installation requires a portion of the grid to be affixed to the ‘Merchants Bank’ building immediately adjacent to the park, and the timing of the renovation of this heritage building is uncertain. The location of the proposed public toilet has been shifted from the sidewalk on Hastings Street to the edge of Pigeon Park because the detailed analysis has revealed that the sidewalk is not wide enough to accommodate the toilet.


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ah they will be able to shoot up in comfort now
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 4:38 AM
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The northern boundary of the passive park suggests a westward extension of Atlantic Street into the Providence Lands, and maybe even the missing connection between the viaducts and Malkin Ave. for when the overpass over the railway tracks is eventually built to Clark Drive. i.e. can't give that corner of land to the park board because you'd never get it back.
     
     
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Wow, 4 turf fields within a 5 minute walk of each other. Plus a possible 5th in SEFC west of the Olympic Village? Are that many really needed? (serious question). I had hoped this land could have been used as a medical office/reseach buildings.
     
     
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Are you counting the fields to the east opposite the Cloverdale Paint (don't know the name of the park) or the Andy Livingstone ones near the viaducts?
     
     
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ah they will be able to shoot up in comfort now
lol, true, but at least the corner will look a little less third world now. a little is maybe all we can ask for at the moment.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 8:19 PM
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Are you counting the fields to the east opposite the Cloverdale Paint (don't know the name of the park) or the Andy Livingstone ones near the viaducts?
I meant to say artificial turf, so I was talking about Andy Livingstone, but there is also the field at Strathcona Park to the east (I think that's the one you are talking about). It might be a bit further walk, same with the Olympic Village, but damn, that's a lot of sports fields.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 8:59 PM
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I meant to say artificial turf, so I was talking about Andy Livingstone, but there is also the field at Strathcona Park to the east (I think that's the one you are talking about). It might be a bit further walk, same with the Olympic Village, but damn, that's a lot of sports fields.
The last time I was at Strathcona was about a year ago, and I didn't notice any artificial turf fields there. There's a gravel field, a grass oval, and I believe two other grass fields. Did they install one recently?

There's a good reason for creating all these new artificial turf fields... the grass fields used for soccer very often become unusable (torn up) after the first month of the winter season, which is easy to do with all the rain we get. So you end up with a bunch of games being called off, and the season extending into baseball season... Also, the damage done to fields probably costs a lot to repair every year.

There's no shortage of demand for these all-weather turf fields. Believe me. Oh, and I believe Andy Livingstone is primarily for grass hockey games.
     
     
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