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Old Posted Feb 24, 2009, 10:35 PM
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Second of all, even as a white person even I find this post to be highly ignorant and offensive. To completely discount how Chinese and other Asians have helped shape this province, and even more profoundly this city, is ignorant and is underlain with inherent racism. “I’m Not going to let you take credit for things your people haven’t done” Are you kidding me??? You might want to watch your tolerance on this forum or you may find yourself banned quite quickly.
Uhm... I don't think that's racist, LC. I mean, he made several good points. It really doesn't matter if one is white or black, yellow or green, many points made were valid. Perhaps he could've been a bit more tactful, however.
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Of course the founding fathers were all British… the Chinese in BC were a subjugated and oppressed people during this time, but their exclusion does not mean they had no effect on how this province turned out.
One could argue that a subjugated people usually doesn't have a huge impact. I believe there were more First Nations in BC than Chinese until recently. Though even the First nations have entire communities revolving around First Nations cultural values and their own governing structure in some cases. Asian? Richmond.
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Especially in the past 50 years BC owes much of its success and current form to the influence of SE Asia. Just look at all the condo buildings around you, or the plethora of multi-cultural cuisine, asian inspired architecture, or the many prominent Asian business figures. BC’s very identity is one of multi-culturalism, for which we are known around the world… and what is the largest visible minority in BC? You guessed it, Chinese. The only thing laughable about comparing British and Chinese influence on modern British Columbia is not including the Chinese.
I would hardly call point towers a Chinese invention. Skyscrapers are as American as they come. There are some similarities but quite a few differences as well.

We have to be careful when we talk about cuisine. Travel to Asia and you'll see that many of these countries have curries... which they've made their own. Does that mean that they owe India a debt of gratitude for shaping their culture. I'd hesitate to say the cuisine has large bearing on culture. (otherwise, Britain is more Indian than India )

I don't think the point of this thread was to bash to Chinese, but rather to point out something that isn't too obvious to the naked eye. There are FAR more things in common with Britain, that we take for granted, because they're woven into the fabric of "Canadian culture"

I'm married to an Asian... and trust me there are far more differences than meets the eye.

Even the values that most people have resonate much more closely with Britain/Europe, because of the similar religious background.

The law, etiquette, clothing, customs, religion, lack of family values ...

It's not about being British. It's more than that. Britain encompasses more than pasty white people as well.

When it comes to Asian, even when I was growing up in the Fraser Valley... they were far and few between.

In general, I can agree that in the past 20-30 years, Asians have been very influential in decision-making in Vancouver and its inner suburbs, but the rest of BC? Pretty hard to make that case.

ANYWAY, like others have said, ultimately, First Nations culture is a better choice for many reasons already stated.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2009, 10:39 PM
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i think people are mixing up influence and i don't know what the other word would be - heritage?
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2009, 11:07 PM
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have you never been to surrey? the punjabis and muslims wear their traditional cultural clothing daily

I have seen full on head to toe burkas weekly on 72nd

and most men wear the traditional outfit and the women wear suits and saris

I have seen some older chinese people wearing the what is thought of as chinese gear in china town, those little black shoes and the collarless silky jackets

as for the british - the british are the ones who planned the roads, laid them out, planned the cities, government is based upon the british - lougheed as in the hwy is the name of the british guy who did a lot of the road planning way back in the day

anyway stick with the homegrown native opening
and the contribution of Chinese who built the damn CPR railroad to BC doesn't count squat ? Or how about the Asian businesses that flourished here and brought many Asian goods for you to purchase ?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2009, 11:16 PM
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I know, I am part dutch... he assumed I was Chinese simply because I was arguing for recognition of their heritage.

hence why I said "British Isles and European descent".
ok, you pass. but only because of the oranje leeuw spared you.

oh btw everybody. vancouver is a dutch name. celebrate the orange bitches
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2009, 11:29 PM
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Yet somehow George Vancouver sailed for the British.

Traitor.

Tintinium, you'll notice I never said Chinese influence on BC was stronger than British, in fact it is no where near as strong, I just think it is highly ignorant to say that their effect has been laughable.

And while point towers may not necessarily be a Chinese invention it was a HK base developer (Concord) which first brought the craze to Vancouver on the former Expo lands.

And yes I do agree FN is a much better choice for the games, as it is a very recognizable brand, and frankly their art looks just great. It helps identify BC and set it apart from the rest of the country/continent.

Remember all I am saying is that it is an oversight to say the Chinese effect on BC is laughable. Don't infer any more from my statements.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2009, 11:34 PM
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Very funny! Allen, you forgot to mention T&T and Aberdeen Centre.
Haha...I was just thinking of some old ones...
T&T and Aberdeen Centre are fairly recent. (T&T was founded in 1997 and
Aberdeen was ?..can't remember)
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