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The torch is an elegant, albiet simple design. I was hoping to see something visually more sophisticated. Funny that my colleague, after seeing the torch, had to let me know that this is another component of the grand "cheap-skate" Olympics.
How is it cheap at all?
     
     
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^^Actually that would be pretty sweet! But no, I'm not sure what I was expecting, just expecting them to doing something native, like that coast salish canoe paddle, or a totem pole or something. On second though, a totem pole with a flame coming out of the top would have been awesome, although it likely would have pissed some people off.

My problem is that we have so much to draw from in Vancouver and/or BC, yet we constantly revert back to the native culture, and sometimes not native culture of BC. Our logo is an inukshuk, but not even a proper one, real inukshuks aren't shaped like people. And inukshuks have nothing to do with BC, AT ALL, some historians believe they didn't even originate with the inuit. While didn't we make the logo a totem pole, that would have been soooo much better. Where else in the world besides BC do you see totem poles, maybe some in Alaska?

Our mascots aren't even real animals (for the most part), they are native spirits or something......that look like they are chinese? Not sure how that happened. What would have been wrong with an otter, a seal, an eagle, a black bear, hell, why didn't we have the spirit bear as one of the mascots!?! Something that is completely unique to BC and endangered. It could have drawn huge publicity to their plight!

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A lot of people associate simple with cheap - although that's not necessarily the case.

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I think it looks great - very "wintery" in colour, shape and form.

The white uniforms also look great - mostly because the torch bearer will be visible in the crowds from a far distance away. i.e. the crowds will be wearing dark wintery clothing - and then this white-clad figure will come around the corner or over the hill or out of the darkness (it is winter, so much of the relay will be in the dark).
     
     
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I like it. It looks like a cell phone merged with an i-pod merged with a torch.... but somehow it works.

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What were you expecting, a bow and arrow somehow fashioned in to a torch?
Yeah that sounds about on par
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2009, 8:34 PM
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^^Actually that would be pretty sweet! But no, I'm not sure what I was expecting, just expecting them to doing something native, like that coast salish canoe paddle, or a totem pole or something. On second though, a totem pole with a flame coming out of the top would have been awesome, although it likely would have pissed some people off.

My problem is that we have so much to draw from in Vancouver and/or BC, yet we constantly revert back to the native culture, and sometimes not native culture of BC. Our logo is an inukshuk, but not even a proper one, real inukshuks aren't shaped like people. And inukshuks have nothing to do with BC, AT ALL, some historians believe they didn't even originate with the inuit. While didn't we make the logo a totem pole, that would have been soooo much better. Where else in the world besides BC do you see totem poles, maybe some in Alaska?

Our mascots aren't even real animals (for the most part), they are native spirits or something......that look like they are chinese? Not sure how that happened. What would have been wrong with an otter, a seal, an eagle, a black bear, hell, why didn't we have the spirit bear as one of the mascots!?! Something that is completely unique to BC and endangered. It could have drawn huge publicity to their plight!

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^ What's wrong with having a bit of Asian influence in the mascots? Care to take around at all the people walking down the street in the city?

And Japanese animation is a world-wide phenomenon, not just in Japan. And it's not like Canada has its own animation style....

If we were simply to have animals as mascots, we'd just be mimicking Sydney and Salt Lake. It would've been quite similar, especially with the "white" designs you so desire for....I would have to say you are quite narrow minded.

I quite like the mascots, they are different and when you compare it to all of the Olympic mascots over the last two decades they are some of the better ones.

The spirit bear is part of the mascots btw....just in mutant form, in miga, alongside with the orca.

The logo, I could understand more....if only they didn't have that stupid mouth on the green head/rock. But I do like the concept of the inukshuk, being a symbol of friendship and pointing the direction for the traveler.
     
     
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I really love this article, and it really highlights exactly why I got so hyped up about the Olympics (not just 2010) several years ago.

As well, the first bit of the article describes how Australia/Sydney 2000 was in the same situation and in the same anti-2000 political climate as Canada/Vancouver 2010 is today with social and economic issues being at the core. But when the flame arrived in Australia, everything changed. I can only hope for the same here - well actually, I know it'll be the same.




Wendy Craig Duncan carries the Olympic torch underwater at the Great Barrier Reef.
Photograph by : Steve Nutt


Flame's arrival turned public towards Games, Australia's torch relay organizer says

By Jeff Lee
Vancouver Sun

November 30, 2008

When Di Henry thinks about what can go wrong with an Olympic Games and what can make it right, she thinks about the 2000 Sydney Games torch relay.

Going into the final half-year of preparations for Australia's Summer Games, the public sentiment was against the organizing committee, she recalled.

The media had given the organizers a rough ride and the public was preoccupied with everything from the economy to social issues.


But when the torch landed at Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park for the start of its 100-day journey around Australia, attitudes began to change.

Henry, who was in charge of organizing the relay, said the appearance of the torch in small towns and big cities touched a nerve and gave people hope.

"For once, in country towns they weren't worried about a lack of jobs or drugs or all of those things that can be depressing. It was marvellous. They were heroes for the day and it made everyone feel special," she said.

"What it did was turn the tide for the organizing committee because they were in the slump. Public opinion was not with them."


Henry knows a lot about the organization of a torch relay and the psychology behind it. Since Sydney, she's helped run relays for the 2006 Turin and 2008 Beijing Olympics, as well as several Commonwealth and Asian games. She's now working with Canadian banking institution RBC, which with Coca-Cola is a co-presenting sponsor for the 2010 Winter Games torch relay.

The two sponsors, along with the Vancouver Organizing Committee and the federal government are putting on a 106-day cross-country relay beginning Oct. 30, 2009.

This week, Henry, who has temporarily moved from Sydney to Toronto to organize RBC's portion of the 2010 relay, will tour British Columbia as part of the 2010 Legacies Now Speakers Series to tell people and businesses how to take advantage of the event.

The Canadian relay will be among the longest and most challenging in Olympic history. Covering 45,000 kilometres, it technically is the longest relay ever inside a single country. There have been others that lasted longer or went farther, but they included other countries, she said. Canada's relay will be the toughest, however, just by virtue of climate and geography. Taking place in the middle of winter, it will challenge the 200 members of the relay organization team just to keep it on time, she said.

Henry says torch relays are popular because they touch people on many levels.

"People love pageantry. They love celebrations. They love getting together and having a good time. I think pageantry allows people to leave the everyday behind for a moment, and whether it is a Christmas Parade or the Mardi Gras, it allows people to celebrate in the moment."

The symbolism of carrying a flame is also part of the magic, she said.

"I think human beings are hard-wired into some evolutionary ideas about flame. We are quite delighted by fire. I think the elusiveness of carrying a flame also has some special symbolism. The Olympics has laid on top of carrying that flame the concepts of hope and unity.

"People delight in people being special. Whether it is your mother or grandmother or daughter, they get to be a torchbearer and assist in handling the flame all the way to the cauldron. People think that is marvellous."

Although official sponsorship opportunities around torch relays are limited, Henry says there are lots of ways for businesses to get involved.

"Don't look at it so much from a marketing point of view but from a supply of services. Councils are going to be producing banners, so they will need to go to a banner production company. They'll need fencing and scrims and screens and other things," she said.

Regional tourism promotion is also important. Torch relays expose the media to areas that they otherwise might not visit, Henry said. And all it takes is one iconic image to make the difference.

Henry recounted the day scuba diver Wendy Craig-Duncan carried the torch underwater at Agincourt Reef in Queensland.

"We had 200 international media there. You couldn't have asked for more exposure," she said. "So showcasing your area, your community, has quite some influential long-term benefits."

Henry also likes Vanoc's idea of asking would-be torchbearers to make a pledge to something good.

"Up until now, it was that torchbearers were picked for what they did. I like this idea of paying it forward," she said.

"It is about building a better Canada, of being self-aware of what it means to be Canadian and what are you going to do to make things better."


Henry will give her first speech in Kamloops today before speaking in Cranbrook on Tuesday.

She will be at the Vancouver Board of Trade luncheon on Wednesday and in Victoria on Friday.

For more information go to www.2010legaciesnow.com

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^ What's wrong with having a bit of Asian influence in the mascots? Care to take around at all the people walking down the street in the city?

And Japanese animation is a world-wide phenomenon, not just in Japan. And it's not like Canada has its own animation style....
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I quite like the mascots, they are different and when you compare it to all of the Olympic mascots over the last two decades they are some of the better ones.
I don't have a problem with asian influence, obviously I know where I live. However, I disagree with you saying our mascots are different from everyone elses. I spent every weekend up at Whistler during ski season and ride the lift with hundreds of tourists. Obviously with the Olympics being so close it is something that comes up, and more often than not, people ask me, "So what do you think of those mascots?, they look like the ones from Beijing." Our mascots come up infinitely more times in conversation than the logo does. Probably because most people have no idea the inukshuk has its roots in Canada's arctic, not west coast. The design of the mascots probably wouldn't be a problem at all if the summer Olympics weren't just in Beijing.

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If we were simply to have animals as mascots, we'd just be mimicking Sydney and Salt Lake. It would've been quite similar, especially with the "white" designs you so desire for....I would have to say you are quite narrow minded.
What is wrong with regular animals as mascots? Most mascots are regular animals, Olympics or otherwise. And how are regular animals a "white" design?

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The spirit bear is part of the mascots btw....just in mutant form, in miga, alongside with the orca.
The thing is a friggen whale with legs. It in no way resembles a bear. I know it is supposed to incorporate a bear (didn't know it was supposed to be a spirit bear, I'll give you that) but nobody sees that. That is the problem.

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The logo, I could understand more....if only they didn't have that stupid mouth on the green head/rock. But I do like the concept of the inukshuk, being a symbol of friendship and pointing the direction for the traveler.
The inukshuk is a nice concept, it just has nothing to do with Vancouver or BC. That is my biggest problem. As I said before, a totem pole would be so much more appropriate.
     
     
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I think regular animals for mascots would've just been dull and cliché. Just look at Sydney's and Salt Lake's mascots - entirely underwhelming. I like Mukmuk, but if they were all regular animals it would be boring, unoriginal, unmemorable and give little background on aspects of Canadian/BC culture. Our current mascots provide interesting references to BC Native art/lore, popular local mythology, hint at BC's significant Asian heritage, and touch on aspects of real animal species. It would be impossible to create a mascot that meant everything to everyone but our current mascots definitely cover more ground than most. Plus they're way more marketable. Why buy a stuffed Olympic spirit bear that looks just as unremarkable as every other stuffed bear in existence?
     
     
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I like the torch design. It was not what I was expecting - almost makes me think the rumour article was put out on purpose to throw folks off . I like that it's crisp, fresh, modern and forward-thinking - a unique concept brought to life. And I think the flame innovation is brilliant. I even like that it has the Inikshuk symbol on it, though I had to think about that one. It is the logo for the games, and I guess it is one of the more appropriate places to stamp it.

I did chuckle at the comment about it looking like some type of new techno gadget. Maybe we should dub it the i-Torch .

I don't like the mascots at all, btw. I think real animals, or just one real animal, would have been a much more appropriate choice. In my mind, "animatron" mascots represent places that no longer have a wilderness nor truly wild animals - such as the middle of mega-cities, farm communities in fully developed states, etc. We are fortunate to still have wondrous wild animals and huge swaths of wilderness areas. It is what people marvel at when they come to BC for the first time. I think a mascot reflecting the true wilderness in our Province and honouring that fact could still have been "cute" while still sending a powerful underlying message to the world. As it is, they just seem sort of weak and unimaginative relative to the other designs for the games.
     
     
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Well, there may be another factor in the mascot designs.....cashing in.
     
     
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Well, there may be another factor in the mascot designs.....cashing in.
Yes!

It's the same reason the Canucks jerseys say "Vancouver" on them now, people will buy them just because, they probably won't even know they are Canucks Hockey jerseys.

I actually like the mascots, though.
     
     
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Yes!

It's the same reason the Canucks jerseys say "Vancouver" on them now, people will buy them just because, they probably won't even know they are Canucks Hockey jerseys.

I actually like the mascots, though.
Well, would you buy these? (Torino's mascots)
     
     
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BTW - anyone think that the torch indicates what the design of the cauldron in BC Place will look like? They are both beig designed by Bombardier.
While Bejing's both looked the same - I don't think that they generally have to look like each other.
     
     
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Well, would you buy these? (Torino's mascots)
Who ya gonna call? GHOSTBUSTERS
     
     
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How is it cheap at all?
I don't like it. I can see how it looks cheap, it's kind of futuristic plastic knife look to it.

It's alright. I give it a pass.

At least we didn't get the London logo
     
     
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From the Toronto Sun - guess they'll be passing the doobie around the country...

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Last Updated: 12th February 2009, 11:53am

WHISTLER, B.C. - Olympic tradition meets laid-back, west coast counterculture in the 2010 Winter Olympics' torch, unveiled Thursday to commemorate the one-year countdown to the Games.

The 94.5-centimetre white torch with silver trim, jointly designed by Canadian aerospace and rail giant Bombardier and Games' organizer VANOC, is emblazoned with the Vancouver 2010 Ilanaaq the Inukshuk logo and a red maple leaf. It is supposed to represent coastal mountain slopes and appears like an icicle. When lit, however, it will resemble a giant marijuana cigarette.

A VANOC news release said the torch is "inspired by both the lines carved into the snow by skiers schussing down mountains and the undulating beauty of the snowy Canadian landscape" and was developed for more than a year by engineers.

Some 12,000 stainless steel, aluminum and sheet-moulding compound units will be produced for torchbearers on the 106-day, 45,000-kilometre journey that will end Feb. 12, 2010 at the opening ceremony in B.C. Place Stadium. The Vancouver 2010 slogan "With Glowing Hearts/Des Plus Brillants Exploits" is engraved on silver strips.

When filled with a mix of propane, isobutane and hydrocarbons, each torch will weigh 1.6 kilograms and will function at temperatures ranging from -50 to 40 Celsius. Being Canada, it is more likely to encounter the former than the latter. The flame will burn in each torch for at least 12 minutes, which should be enough for each bearer to cover their 300 metre quota.

Also unveiled Thursday were Hudson's Bay Company-designed track suits to be worn by the torchbearers. The predominantly white uniforms have a green and blue left sleeve and the Olympic torch relay logo on the chest and pants pocket. Torchbearers will also wear red mittens, a "nod to classic Canadiana," according to the news release.

Vancouver student Patricia Moreno, 18, and Regina, Saskatchewan hockey coach Caleb Taylor, 35, modeled the uniforms at the Whistler Village ceremony, attended by International Olympic Committee president Jacques Rogge and British Columbia Premier Gordon Campbell. Moreno and Taylor were the first torchbearers selected in online contests by sponsors Coca-Cola and Royal Bank, respectively.
     
     
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Ahh the Toronto Sun, continuing their tradition of literary excelence...
     
     
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Are you sure you didn't edit that a tad?
     
     
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As soon as I saw the torch, I jokingly thought it must be a Bombardier product. And after reading... it actually is. Lucky guess perhaps.
     
     
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A rather glowing article about Vancouver featured on the front page of ESPN.com right now:

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Caple: Vast, vibrant, early view of Vancouver Winter Olympics


Sorry, Innsbruck and St. Moritz, Torino and Salt Lake City, the combination of mountain vistas and sea views of Vancouver sets
the bar higher for future Winter Games hosts. It may be tough to argue with the photo evidence. (Tom Szczerbowski/US Presswire)



VANCOUVER, British Columbia — As the winter sky fills with colors rarely seen since the Houston Astros dropped their rainbow jersey design, aspiring Olympic skiers fresh from their Cypress Mountain training runs pull off the road, pull out their cameras and take in the dazzling sunset over the Strait of Georgia.

"OK, I could live here," said Crystal Lee, a Canadian national team skier from Ontario. "Just pitch a tent."

This is what Vancouver will provide next year over past winter Olympic cities (and come to think about it, summer Olympic host cities, as well). Yes, Winter Games have been held in beautiful towns (Innsbruck, St. Moritz). And, yes, Winter Games have been held in major cities (Torino has almost as many people as Vancouver). But has any host provided the combination of mountain and sea views that leave you as breathless and weak-kneed as skiing a 10K cross-country race? And has any host been a vibrant metropolis renowned worldwide for its livability, diversity and vast capacity for showing a visitor a good time?


The posh ski village of Whistler will serve as the headquarters of many Winter Olympics events. Don Emmert/AFP/Getty Images

Sorry, Innsbruck. You may have the Austrian Alps, but do you also have deep salt waters stretching from their slopes to the Pacific? Nice try, Torino, but does your industrial city -- the Detroit of Italy -- provide nearby ski slopes plunging to the city limits, thick emerald forests rising from the water and seaplanes taking off from the harbor? And sure, Salt Lake City, you have the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, but can you offer world-class restaurants with menus of every imaginable cuisine (the gold-medal favorite is the lamb Popsicle dish at Vij's), plus a city rich in local wines and microbrews?

And that's just Vancouver. Much of the 2010 Olympics competition will take place at Whistler, the posh ski village that 1998 gold-medal snowboarder Ross Rebagliati used in explaining his positive marijuana test at the Nagano Olympics -- he attributed it to secondhand smoke he inhaled while living at Whistler.

In other words, Michael Phelps might be kicking himself that Vancouver is hosting the winter Olympics, not the Summer Games. Although Bode Miller should find it an outstanding venue.

"I grew up in Salt Lake, which did a great job with the Olympics in 2002," said U.S. skeleton racer Zach Lund. "And Vancouver is going to do just as good a job or better, plus, there will be a fun atmosphere. It's going to be great. I'm looking forward to getting here and enjoying it afterward."

The third-largest city in Canada, the Vancouver metropolitan area has a population of just more than 2 million, and if you attend the Olympics next year, you may swear all of them are either competing with you for tickets or stuck in traffic ahead of you on the 75-mile Sea-to-Sky Highway that connects Vancouver to Whistler.

Threading its way past snowcapped peaks alongside the fjordlike Howe Sound, the first 37 miles to the town of Squamish rank among the most scenic roads in the world (cue the intoxicating NBC helicopter shot with the music swelling).

The highway is undergoing a major construction, expanding some sections to four lanes and adding a passing lane to others. Whether the construction is finished and how well it trims what is now a two-or-so-hour drive is important because many competitions -- downhill and cross-country skiing, biathlon, ski-jumping and bobsled, luge and skeleton -- will be held at Whistler. And traffic leading out of downtown Vancouver can back up in maddening fashion on normal days.

"Transportation is always a challenge," said Maurice Cardinal, who runs olyblog.com, an often critical site dedicated to the Vancouver Olympics. "They've spent so much rebuilding the Sea-to-Sky Highway, and the reality is that it is the only road to Whistler.

"Because we do live on the ocean and there are a lot of waterways, there are only three bridges that connect Vancouver to the mainland side. The big problem is when there's an accident on the bridge or an emergency like a jumper. When traffic shuts the bridge down, it shuts the city down. …

"But I don't think it's going to be any worse than at other Olympics."

Besides, the scenery is so beautiful along the drive to Whistler that you won't mind getting stuck in traffic. Well, not so much.

Tickets and lodging also will be challenging. With several million people living in the area and another roughly 4 million within a three-hour drive (not counting border delays) from Seattle, Vancouver set records for ticket demand and sales during the first purchasing phase.

Another (smaller) phase of ticket sales will open this spring on cosport.com, but my experience covering eight previous Olympics has been that there are always tickets to be had. Or, more important, that has been the experience of my wife, who has not enjoyed the access of a media credential. An excellent ticket source is the official sponsor groups, which often have spare tickets when someone doesn't show up. Hitting up these groups as they get off the bus at the venue can be a good way of getting a cheaper ticket, especially is you want only one seat.

Of course, as the investment companies point out, past results are no guarantee of future performance. And with hockey's popularity in Canada, you better come with a mighty thick wallet plus plasma to sell (and perhaps incriminating photos of Sidney Crosby) if you want to see a game.

Cardinal said Vancouver has a shortage of hotel rooms compared to many major cities because it is a relatively young city. Horror stories about room availability and prices are as traditional a part of the Olympics countdown as the torch relay, however, and rooms can open up as you get closer to games. My wife got a room in Torino, for example, at the last moment for less than $200. That's not inexpensive, to be sure, but it is significantly cheaper than some of the advance packages at Cosport.com that can go for more than $7,000 for four hotel nights and five events. And that's PER PERSON BASED ON DOUBLE OCCUPANCY so it would be more than $14,000 for a couple.

At those prices, you would be better off staying in Seattle and having servants carry you to Vancouver in a sedan chair. More realistic options are renting from a private individual through craigslist. And if you're willing to go farther afield, you can try Bellingham, Wash., (a wonderful college town about an hour's drive from Vancouver) or other towns near the border.

Then again, getting to Vancouver from Washington state may be a problem. The U.S.-Canadian border crossing 30 or so miles from downtown Vancouver also is undergoing construction. During a recent trip, I sailed right through the crossing in less than five minutes. But waiting 30 minutes or more is common, and endurance waits of more than an hour are not unusual during peak traffic. The surest way to lessen your wait is to apply for a NEXUS card (for information click here), which gives access to special lanes for expedited crossing.

Plus, you better hope the Canadian dollar is closer to the current exchange rate of 82 cents to the U.S. dollar rather than the even par of a year ago, because Whistler is pack-multiple-credit-cards-and-increase-their-limits expensive even with a favorable exchange. A seafood crepe recently cost $24 at a restaurant well away from the slopes, pints of beer fetched about $7 at an Irish pub and a souvenir shop wanted $45 for a friggin' Olympic cowbell.

Oh, and did I mention that it probably will be raining in Vancouver?

So, right now, you might be thinking that it would be easier to get to Vancouver next February if you start training and actually qualify for an Olympic team (I would suggest curling over, say, the downhill). And, yes, some money, effort and patience will be required.

But you won't regret it when you're whisking from Whistler to Blackcomb in the Peak-to-Peak gondola with the valley floor 1,500 feet beneath you and snowcapped mountains filling the horizon before you. Or when you're clanging your cowbell and cheering Lindsey Vonn as she flies down the face of a mountain at speeds that should get her pulled over by the state patrol. Or when you're sharing a brew (I recommend a pint from Granville Island Brewing) and singing "The Happy Wanderer" with your new best friends -- the greatest guys in the world! -- from Sweden, Japan, Austria, Bulgaria, Slovenia and Australia.

That's the beauty of the Olympics: They thrill and they entertain and they provide friendships and memories that last long after your spouse tosses out the $30 souvenir T-shirt. No matter which country you call home, you'll feel such a spirit of brotherhood that you'll consider yourself a citizen of the world.

Although you may, like Crystal Lee, want to become a citizen of Vancouver. Especially when you've got a couple of Granville Island Maple Cream Ales in you.


If you're going …

A brief overview of what to expect when planning to attend the Vancouver Winter Games:

Venues

For the first time, the opening and closing ceremonies -- and the nightly medal ceremonies -- will be held indoors, at the domed BC Place Stadium.

Hockey and figure skating will be held in downtown Vancouver. Hockey will be played at GM Place and UBC Thunderbird Arena. Pacific Coliseum will hold figure skating and short-track skating.

Curling will be at the Vancouver Olympic Centre.

Speed skating will be at the new oval in Richmond, the nearest southern suburb.

Snowboarding, aerials, ski-cross and moguls will be at Cypress Mountain, just a 30-minute drive from downtown Vancouver (though it will take longer because you'll almost certainly feel the urge to stop at the incredible viewpoints).

Downhill skiing and the bobsled track are at Whistler. Cross-country, biathlon and jumping events will be at Whistler Olympic Park, about 16 miles back toward Vancouver.

Tickets

Most tickets have already been sold. Cosport.com is the exclusive primary seller of tickets to U.S. fans, and it will hold a second phase of ticketing this spring. (Don't expect bargains. Gold-medal hockey game prices ranged from $350 to $775 and curling tickets went for as much as $125. Yes, curling.) Craigslist and StubHub! are familiar spots for buying tickets on the secondary market. Hitting up sponsor groups at the venue for unused tickets can be a great strategy. One excellent, cheaper event ($22) is the nightly medal ceremonies at BC Stadium, where the athletes receive their medals from that day's events amid a festive atmosphere.

Lodging

Some major hotel chains are not taking reservations, yet, but private individuals are already listing homes and rooms on Craigslist. 2010destinationplanner.com is a source for rooms in and around Vancouver. Cosport.com offers lodging packages, as well, though the rates are very expensive.

Non-Olympics opportunities

While the downhill and slalom events will be at Creekside, the runs at Whistler and Blackcomb proper will be open for business as usual with some of the finest skiing on the continent. Daily lift tickets at Whistler are $89.

Whistler Olympic Park will be restricted during the Games, but it is open now for cross-country skiers and snowshoers. "This is our legacy," a beaming worker said beside a groomed trail. "We get to keep this."


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