SLC: Official 222 S Main Construction thread

[shakman]

You guys have got yourselves a little canyon of highrises on 222 end of Downtown. Perfect project for the location.

[Urban_logic]

Originally Posted by shakman

You guys have got yourselves a little canyon of highrises on 222 end of Downtown. Perfect project for the location.

I love the T-shaped high-rise corridor north/south on Main St. and east/west on South Temple. 222 will be a nice addition to the city

[T-Mac]

A very murky morning.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by T-Mac

I don't generally like this building's design, but I think it looks kind of nice from this angle.

[blazefirelight]

I think 222 is a great addition to SLC's architecture portfolio. Always good to have some variation in the look of our skyline--especially if it'll add a little more coloration to the skyline.

I can't wait until the building is done, as well as the buildings for CCC. Then it'll be great to see new aerial shots of downtown with some more towers.

Now we just need some of the city's tallest buildings going up between 1st South and 2nd South.

I think that that area is the prime location for the tallest tower in the city.

[TANGELD_SLC]

I VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE.

I think our next burst of office space needs to go between Grand America and Wells Fargo. Also, I'd like to see 600 South become our new office tower corridor. That way, main street can focus on the Arts district and small shops and businesses. Imagine how badass it would be to get off the freeway and have 3rd west to 700 East lined with office space!(with historical preservation, of course ) That would also mean less cars as you went further north and that area of downtown could become even more pedestrian friendly.


BTW THANKS T-MAC FOR THE PHOTOS!
222 looks so nice at those angles you got!

[shakman]

The "murky photo" shows good density within that area of Downtown. That "Walker" sign adds to the architecture mixture extraordinarily well.

I may have said this before... Excellent project for a perfect location.

[cololi]

Originally Posted by TANGELD_SLC

I VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE.

I think our next burst of office space needs to go between Grand America and Wells Fargo. Also, I'd like to see 600 South become our new office tower corridor. That way, main street can focus on the Arts district and small shops and businesses. Imagine how badass it would be to get off the freeway and have 3rd west to 700 East lined with office space!(with historical preservation, of course ) That would also mean less cars as you went further north and that area of downtown could become even more pedestrian friendly.

A 600 South office tower corridor kills the CBD. An arts district is vital to the city, but it can not support itself without a strong mix of office and residential uses. Primarily because that is who is going to spend money in the galleries, small shops, etc. if anything, we need to contract our downtown area and focus development from the core outward, not the other way around.

600 South should be converted to a grand boulevard and be the southern branch of a green loop that defines the boundary of downtown. Remove all of the billboards, power lines, etc. I think residential towers are an okay use in the area, provided they are located along the existing and any future light rail or street car line and feed downtown.

[Ronald-Dregan]

I dont like the idea of having highrises on 600 S in the near future. I think we need to work on geting more dense and not stretching further down. If you guys notice our downtown is elongated North to South, I believe we need to get a bit wider from East to West. A great amount of infill is needed still around 100 S - 300 S.

[TANGELD_SLC]

I don't like the idea of the historic parts of downtown becoming overshadowed by office towers.

[blazefirelight]

Didn't someone state that cities like Seattle pretty much had to grow up since they couldn't grow out much more?

I like that idea more than just spreading the downtown out. Density is something we could definitely use. Sure, we all love historic parts of downtown, but I don't think we need HUGE areas of old, stubby buildings taking up most of downtown. Preservation doesn't always signify growth. I like that most of the older buildings are on Main Street, because that gives it more of a pedestrian-friendly city feel.

Skyscrapers are going to have to overshadow historical buildings eventually, so why fight it?

And I'd much rather see a taller downtown building in the middle of the current tallest sections of town instead of continuing the stubby buildings <500 feet from 400 South to 600 South.

[urbanboy]

Originally Posted by blazefirelight

Didn't someone state that cities like Seattle pretty much had to grow up since they couldn't grow out much more?

I like that idea more than just spreading the downtown out. Density is something we could definitely use. Sure, we all love historic parts of downtown, but I don't think we need HUGE areas of old, stubby buildings taking up most of downtown. Preservation doesn't always signify growth. I like that most of the older buildings are on Main Street, because that gives it more of a pedestrian-friendly city feel.

Skyscrapers are going to have to overshadow historical buildings eventually, so why fight it?

And I'd much rather see a taller downtown building in the middle of the current tallest sections of town instead of continuing the stubby buildings <500 feet from 400 South to 600 South.

Again, there are plenty of parking lots to fill even in the core. We don't have many older/historic buildings from Salt Lake City's "heyday" of the 20th Century remaining. I'd like to see more vigorous preservation of what we do have left. If we don't save what gives Salt Lake City's streets their character, then we'll become "anywhere U.S.A." without anything unique to show for.

[MetroFanatic]

Just thought I'd point out that another level of facade on the front is currently being placed.

[shakman]

I am still baffled on why it is taking so long for the curtainwall to rise.

[MetroFanatic]

Another level of facade is being placed.

[Urban_logic]

Originally Posted by TANGELD_SLC

I think our next burst of office space needs to go between Grand America and Wells Fargo. Also, I'd like to see 600 South become our new office tower corridor. That way, main street can focus on the Arts district and small shops and businesses. Imagine how badass it would be to get off the freeway and have 3rd west to 700 East lined with office space!(with historical preservation, of course ) That would also mean less cars as you went further north and that area of downtown could become even more pedestrian friendly.

Originally Posted by cololi

600 South should be converted to a grand boulevard and be the southern branch of a green loop that defines the boundary of downtown. Remove all of the billboards, power lines, etc. I think residential towers are an okay use in the area, provided they are located along the existing and any future light rail or street car line and feed downtown.

Both great ideas that I hadn't thought of before!! I do think we need more towers lined up along 5th and 6th south, but smaller residential and mid-rise commercial (like 8-15 stories). I think we should keep the tallest towers in the CBD, but branch out with some smaller low to mid-rises around the outer parts of down town. I think we should deffinately make 6th South look like a grand boulevard that acts as a gateway to down town from the freeway. Then we DEFFINATELY need to do something about State St!!! That hideous excuse for a street HAS to go!!! I like the lamp posts they have right now, but I think they should make the curbs a little higher and completely re-do the island in the middle. They could do something similar to what was done on North Temple - can you imagine driving into down town along State St. 30 years from now with huge trees on the sides and in the center island?? That would be beautiful!! Then we could also through in some 8-10 story commercial and residential towers along State St. down to 6th South to meet up with the 5th/6th South corridor.

[urbanboy]

The Grand Boulevard concept for 600 and 500 South Streets is part of the general plan for Downtown.

[Urban_logic]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

The Grand Boulevard concept for 600 and 500 South Streets is part of the general plan for Downtown.

Looks like we got ourselves some wise leadership over there in the SLC

[T-Mac]

Snowy Morning

[RFPCME]

T-Mac: As always, thank you for the pics. I especially like the shot with the top of the Walker Center in the foreground--you zoom lens works well. What kind of new camera did you wind up buying? Love the pics it takes.

Also, you have developed a pictorial chronicle of 222 So Main. I'd love to see a chronology of your shots, looking at 222 So Main from the direction of the Walker Center. I realize you started at street-level, then worked your way to higher elevations as the tower went up. If you ever get a chance, please give us forumers the privilege of seeing your work over a period of time from the same general location.

Again, thank you.