Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed - Page 55

twoNeurons · #**1081** Posted **Jan 30, 2009, 5:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

A "city" the size of Port Moody is damn lucky to be getting any rapid transit.

What about getting a P3 partner in this climate? Is the province going to be the lender? Hopefully it doesn't take long to get "shovels in the ground".

Not to mention Commuter Rail to boot.

djmk · #**1082** Posted **Jan 30, 2009, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

A "city" the size of Port Moody is damn lucky to be getting any rapid transit.

its because port moody is in between burnaby and coquitlam. just a geographical quirk of metro vancouvers 21 municipalities

officedweller · #**1083** Posted **Jan 30, 2009, 6:48 PM**

The report that nname posted from 2001 shows that the Option B or B+ portals are "high risk" due to water-saturated poor soils (cost $21-30M) while the elevated section over Barnet is "low risk" with a cost of $8M.
http://www.translink.bc.ca/files/board_f...03-16_3-2_PtMdyCoq-PtMdyPortalOption.pdf

In terms of the transit riders' experience, having the tunnel portal in the hillside and emerging onto an elevated structure would provide amazing views - like the M-Line in New Westminster.

I think that having an elevated guideway adjacent to low to midrise housing is fine. There's a lot of housing like that along the Expo Line in Burnaby. As for a "Yaletown" character - that's just suburban real estate developers and marketers trying to cash in. There are lots of projects in Surrey touted as having a Yaletown feel - but end up looking like Fairview. Collingwood Village is successful and it is adjacent to an elevated segment.

Metro-One · #**1084** Posted **Jan 30, 2009, 6:56 PM**

Doesn't Port Moody already have a "Yaletown" like area along the eastern shore of Burrard Inlet? How silly that they are going to complain about such a short elevated structure over a highway, for goodness sakes it will probably be similar to a large pedestrian overpass! I think if they really want the lower entrance that much then the city should pay the difference in costs compared to the higher tunnel entrance.

officedweller · #**1085** Posted **Jan 30, 2009, 7:22 PM**

Yes it does - it's called Newport Village. Plus there's the other project across the street - Suter Brook?

Here's the aerial of the Andres lands from Global Air Photos (2004 & 2005)
Note that an elevated guideway would be high level when crossing Barnet Highway and appear even higher still on the Andres lands because the Andres lands are at a lower elevation.
Essentially, what you would see is like the Expo guideway as it transitions from Grandview Hwy North over Clark Drive and over the escarpment to the False Creek Flats.
That said, I still think that you can build condos in the area (and the CP tracks aren't moving).

Mininari · #**1086** Posted **Jan 30, 2009, 7:48 PM**

Deleted: Posted same comments as Officedweller

deasine · #**1087** Posted **Jan 30, 2009, 10:32 PM**

Note: Post #1047, #1048, #1052, #1054-#1058, #1060, #1072, #1074-#1079, #1083, #1084 have been moved to the Intercity Transport Thread

mr.x · #**1088** Posted **Feb 7, 2009, 5:38 AM**

Is there going to be an announcement/unveiling for the Evergreen Line anytime soon?

Anything dramatic like the recent unveiling + breaking ground of the new Port Mann? :p

Whalleyboy · #**1089** Posted **Feb 7, 2009, 7:33 AM**

i bet its gonna be coming soon campbell just needs to finish up with getting things done in surrey=P

GeeCee · #**1090** Posted **Feb 7, 2009, 10:39 PM**

I believe Falcon said in one of the tri-city newspapers that there would be an announcement 'soon'.

d'ann · #**1091** Posted **Feb 9, 2009, 4:34 AM**

Wish I had a $1000 for a subscription as these docs wold make for an interesting read I think

http://dailycommercialnews.com/cgi-bin/t...d4b090&projectid=9053210&region=national

LRT SYSTEM, TUNNEL Proj: 9053210-5
Coquitlam, Greater Vancouver RD BC CONTEMPLATED
Evergreen Line - Segment 2.4, N of Morrison Ave to W of Barnett Hwy, V3J
$127,000,000 est
Start: 2010 Complete: 2014
Note: Funding has been secured from TransLink and the Provincial Gov't, but a final funding approval from the Federal Gov't is anticipated shortly. This project will be spearheaded by the Ministry of Transportation. An Evergreen Project Office will be opening shortly in Coquitlam. Further update over Spring 2009. See the other related segments to this project under project numbers: 9053203, 9053204, 9053206, 9053208, 7247183, 9053211 - 9053225.
Website: www.th.gov.bc.ca/evergreen_line. Total construction budget of Line is approx $1.4 billion. CH2M Hill is the Owner's Engineer.
Project: cast-in-place concrete foundation, 02230; site clearing, 02240; site preparation, 02410; tunnel excavation, 03210; reinforcing steel, 10530; canopies, light rail transit track way tunnel from Morrison Ave to the corner of the Barnett Hwy; this will be an ALRT (advanced light rapid transit) system.

Spork · #**1092** Posted **Feb 9, 2009, 5:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by d'ann

Wish I had a $1000 for a subscription as these docs wold make for an interesting read I think

http://dailycommercialnews.com/cgi-bin/t...d4b090&projectid=9053210&region=national

LRT SYSTEM, TUNNEL Proj: 9053210-5
Coquitlam, Greater Vancouver RD BC CONTEMPLATED
Evergreen Line - Segment 2.4, N of Morrison Ave to W of Barnett Hwy, V3J
$127,000,000 est
Start: 2010 Complete: 2014
Note: Funding has been secured from TransLink and the Provincial Gov't, but a final funding approval from the Federal Gov't is anticipated shortly. This project will be spearheaded by the Ministry of Transportation. An Evergreen Project Office will be opening shortly in Coquitlam. Further update over Spring 2009. See the other related segments to this project under project numbers: 9053203, 9053204, 9053206, 9053208, 7247183, 9053211 - 9053225.
Website: www.th.gov.bc.ca/evergreen_line. Total construction budget of Line is approx $1.4 billion. CH2M Hill is the Owner's Engineer.
Project: cast-in-place concrete foundation, 02230; site clearing, 02240; site preparation, 02410; tunnel excavation, 03210; reinforcing steel, 10530; canopies, light rail transit track way tunnel from Morrison Ave to the corner of the Barnett Hwy; this will be an ALRT (advanced light rapid transit) system.

$1000? It just sent it to me via email...

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Owner Ministry of Transportation, 4C, 940 Blanshard St, PO Box 9850 Stn Prov Govt, Victoria BC V8W 9T5, Phone: 250-387-1411 Fax: 250-356-8143; Dave Crebo

Land surveyor McElhanney Consulting Services, 780 Beatty St, Vancouver BC V6B 2M1, Phone: 604-683-8521 Fax: 604-683-4350

Civil cons eng MMM Group Limited, 1455 W Georgia St Ste 600, Vancouver BC V6G 2T3, Phone: 604-685-9381 Fax: 604-683-8655

Consultant CH2M Hill Canada Ltd, 2100, 4720 Kingsway, Twr II, Burnaby BC V5H 4N2, Phone: 604-684-3282 Fax: 604-684-3292

Geotechnical cons Golder Associates Ltd, Ste 500, 4260 Still Creek Dr, Burnaby BC V5C 6C6, Phone: 604-296-4200 Fax: 604-298-5253

Is that what you wanted?

d'ann · #**1093** Posted **Feb 9, 2009, 6:06 AM**

no I want what ever is known on current routing and station locations. After all these years too many details have not been released

Spork · #**1094** Posted **Feb 9, 2009, 6:10 AM**

What would you subscribe if you wanted these? I may be able to get the data from some online databases that I have access to.

GeeCee · #**1095** Posted **Feb 9, 2009, 10:22 AM**

Ah, I kind of figured that would be for the Evergreen line..

A semi-temporary building is going up at the Coquitlam Center park and ride. I guess that is for the Evergreen office. It's almost done from the looks of it. I imagine it'll be set to open for when funding is finalized.

Mininari · #**1096** Posted **Feb 9, 2009, 6:37 PM**

Oh, how progess is asymptotic to actual contruction... we just keep getting closer and closer... and then finally... finally....

officedweller · #**1097** Posted **Feb 9, 2009, 8:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by d'ann

no I want what ever is known on current routing and station locations. After all these years too many details have not been released

Since it has gone back to being SkyTrain - check out these 4 docs from 2002 that were posted by nname - that pretty much sums up the options. I think the future Cameron Station has been deleted (feasibility would probably depend on if it is built as a side-of-the-road guideway - definitely deleted as a future station if it is a median guideway).

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Originally Posted by nname

There are already lots of info if you dig into the archive.. something like this, this, this, and this. I wonder how much of these can be re-used...

deasine · #**1098** Posted **Feb 9, 2009, 8:37 PM**

I think the west alignment option should be a given. We can see the success of that already with the No. 3 Rd. But if the are going with the center median, please do the the enhanced median design.

Jared · #**1099** Posted **Feb 10, 2009, 4:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by d'ann

no I want what ever is known on current routing and station locations. After all these years too many details have not been released

Well, it's the NW route, the alignment can be found on the Translink website.

The PTV study done for Translink modeled stations at Lougheed, Burquitlam, Queens, Port Moody Station, Ioco, Coquitlam Station, Lincoln and Guildford.

officedweller · #**1100** Posted **Feb 10, 2009, 9:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

I think the west alignment option should be a given. We can see the success of that already with the No. 3 Rd. But if the are going with the center median, please do the the enhanced median design.

But for the PMC Line they were going to go down the middle of North Road since its the dividing line between Burnaby & Coquitlam and neither city's politicians wanted to be saddled with the impacts more than the other.

The key to a future station would be to have the station site on the side of the road - either west side or east side. The guideway could run up the west side along mall property to the station site (at the corner of the mall property & the new Silouette condo), then transition to the median after the station site if the new Silouette condo project blocks the west allignment ROW. Ideally the guideway should stay on the west side until it turns into Clark Road where it can enter the median and Burquitlam station could be a trench station in the median at the portal.

Hopefully someone will explain the difference in the impacts and feasibility of options between the west allignment and the median allignment to the politicians.