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Old Posted Feb 6, 2009, 1:54 AM
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Thanks for the update, Riverviewer!
Great shots, Budyser! I'm really hoping the air show comes back to town in the next year or two.
Yes, the riverfront makes a great venue for an event like this. This event definitely deserves to be restaged in the near future.

The Nova Scotia International Airshow is basically moribund now that Shearwater has been closed. The Halifax Stanfield International Airport makes a poor venue for this event. It is too far from downtown and is too busy as a working airport to easily host this event.

While Moncton suffers the same limitations as Halifax (the GMIA is too busy to serve as a venue for static displays), a limited airshow consisting mostly of aerial displays is very feasable.
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It's great to see all the housing developments going up around the metro area golf courses. We haven't discussed this very much in this thread but the regions golfing facilities are a tremendous resource for greater Moncton. We have nine golf courses in the CMA. This has to be more that any other city in the Atlantic Canada.

The Magnetic Hill, Royal Oaks and Fox Creek golf courses all have integrated courseside housing developments, including both single family houses and condos in the mix. The Moncton Golf Club also has a large condo development under construction right now and I believe that a subdivision here is also planned when the back holes are reconfigured.

I can't think of anywhere else in the region where there are so many options available for courseside living.
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The Nova Scotia International Airshow is basically moribund now that Shearwater has been closed. The Halifax Stanfield International Airport makes a poor venue for this event. It is too far from downtown and is too busy as a working airport to easily host this event.
The Nova Scotia airshow has actually given up on Halifax altogether. They are moving the show to Yarmouth this year.
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since Budyser added his great airshow shots to the last page, I figured I'd add a picture of mine for a change for this installment of:

Colour for the page

one of mine from last summer:

Partial Skyline at dusk
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Holy smokes...I dont know if its an error or something but there are currently 110 guests on the Atlantic forums...and only 12 people are looking at the Hali section...so that means over 100 guests looking at the rest...if any of you guests read this and want to join up and discuss stuff please do so...we would love to have you on board (literally haha)!

(maybe I just need to get to bed)
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sorry man, down to 16 guests now.
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It's great to see all the housing developments going up around the metro area golf courses. We haven't discussed this very much in this thread but the regions golfing facilities are a tremendous resource for greater Moncton. We have nine golf courses in the CMA. This has to be more that any other city in the Atlantic Canada.

The Magnetic Hill, Royal Oaks and Fox Creek golf courses all have integrated courseside housing developments, including both single family houses and condos in the mix. The Moncton Golf Club also has a large condo development under construction right now and I believe that a subdivision here is also planned when the back holes are reconfigured.

I can't think of anywhere else in the region where there are so many options available for courseside living.
Here is the render of the Moncton Golf Club subdivision on the back holes.



With the change in configuation, they made room for 200 building lots.
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Hey, to add the the occupation list, I'm a business analyst for a software company.
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Ling's lands in Hub City

Ontario-based Chinese food producer chose Moncton as best location for expansion

By Cole Hobson
Times & Transcript Staff
Published Friday February 6th, 2009



Raymond Ling shows some of the products his company, Ling's Foods Ltd., distributes from his Moncton warehouse.

Raymond Ling searched long and hard for a new Atlantic Canadian city in which to expand his business and in the end, he settled on Moncton

"We've been scouting around for the last two years, looking for a suitable location and a suitable city. We examined Saint John, we examined Fredericton, we examined Halifax, we decided on Moncton," said Ling, the president of Ling's Foods Ltd. "Moncton is geographically the hub of Atlantic Canada, you're only two and a half hours from Halifax, close to all the major cities. From a distribution point of view, this is a logistical central location.

"Also, we like the city of Moncton because of its diversity and that it's multilingual."

Ling's Foods Ltd. offers a wide selection of authentic South East Asian cuisine for distribution and wholesale to locations around Canada and the United States. The company also has more than a dozen Bento Box, Thai Bowl and Beijing Express restaurant franchises around Ontario.

The group is based in the Greater Toronto Area and recently expanded operations to Moncton, where its storage facility will carry frozen food and dinner entrees, dry, packaged and canned goods as well as chilled products and perishables.

The company is also the sole distributor for Ontario-based Mannarich Food Inc., which has been in operation since 1976.

Ling says the goal is to make his company the "hub" for the Maritimes for ethnic food and grocery distribution. He says he is in discussions to have his products sold in Loblaws, Sobeys and Co-op grocery stores around the region in upcoming weeks.

Ling, who is a native of Hong Kong but has lived in Toronto since 1970, says the Moncton expansion began in August when they began planning and looking for a suitable location.

In the fall, Ling settled on Moncton and began ordering products for storage in the company's 500-cubic-foot freezer. The first shipments arrived in early January and it's now full steam ahead.

The company will do more than just store food in Moncton, too.

"We're fairly diverse in our operation. We are also looking at a couple of sites in downtown Moncton to open up our restaurants." Ling explained, noting they are interested in partnering with people in Metro Moncton to help operations expand.


"We've been talking to a few people through immigration consultations, they bring in new immigrants looking to buy a business or start a business, but they nothing about the local people or local area. That's where we come in."

Ling also says in the longer-term he'd love to expand operations even further in Hub City.

"We would like to establish footing in Atlantic Canada, eventually we hope to do the manufacturing here instead of shipping from Ontario,"
he said. "We would want to eventually establish a manufacturing plant here. Shipping product from Ontario is very expensive and I think we could combine the advantages of the area and do away with the freight and have lower operating costs and lower overhead. We could make a big impact."
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I'm Currently working for a Property Development company in Moncton
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Here's a couple of photos I took of the aftermath from the Carrie Underwood concert at the Coliseum a few months ago.

The observation here is the low hanging ceiling at the Coliseum. Clearly when you look at the modern audio and visual equipment of today's concert productions, the Coliseum must be a huge headache for stage managers, riggers and set designers.



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Informative pictures Budyser. There is no question that the coliseum has had it's day as a performance venue. The time to build a new arena complex (note that I refrained from calling it a Metro centre) is now.

- We need more seating capacity.
- We need corporate boxes.
- We need a facility with a higher roof.
- We need better concession areas.
- We need an improved sound system.
- We need more capacity for the many events that the city is hosting (note that the Wildcats will likely end up playing more than half their playoff games at the J. Louis Levesque Arena because of scheduling conflicts).

The coliseum will continue to see good use because of it's relationship with the Agrena for conventions and trade shows. It will also serve as a back-up facility for the new arena. There is always a demand for ice surfaces in our city.

It will not be a waste to have both the coliseum and a new arena.
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Informative pictures Budyser. There is no question that the coliseum has had it's day as a performance venue. The time to build a new arena complex (note that I refrained from calling it a Metro centre) is now.

- We need more seating capacity.
- We need corporate boxes.
- We need a facility with a higher roof.
- We need better concession areas.
- We need an improved sound system.
- We need more capacity for the many events that the city is hosting (note that the Wildcats will likely end up playing more than half their playoff games at the J. Louis Levesque Arena because of scheduling conflicts).

The coliseum will continue to see good use because of it's relationship with the Agrena for conventions and trade shows. It will also serve as a back-up facility for the new arena. There is always a demand for ice surfaces in our city.

It will not be a waste to have both the coliseum and a new arena.
I agree 100% with you on those points, Ill add:

- We need the arena to be downtown
- We need transit links
- We need close proximity to hotels, resturants and shopping for spin-off revenue
- We need a structure to be proud of, not some big box monstrosity

Heres and article from todays T&T from the viewpoint of one of the main event promoters in Eastern Canada, he also thinks the time is now.


Moncton needs a metro centre: promoter

Booking agent says downtown 15,000-seat venue would help draw bigger sports, entertainment events to Metro

BY ALAN COCHRANE
Published Friday February 6th, 2009


A new 15,000-seat downtown arena would help Moncton draw bigger entertainment and sports events, along with millions of dollars in economic spinoffs, the president of a major booking agency said yesterday.

"Moncton definitely needs a new venue. The one you have is not adequate for the acts we would like to bring there," Jacques Aubé, president of the Montreal-based Gillett Entertainment Group said yesterday. "Right now there are certain shows that we aren't able to bring to Moncton because the ceiling is too low, the clock is in the way and it doesn't have enough seats."

The Moncton Coliseum, which was built in the 1970s, has a low-sloping ceiling. It seats about 4,500 for hockey games and more than 7,000 for concerts, depending on the configuration. The adjacent agrena complex includes large spaces for trade shows, conventions and special events.

"The Elton John show was fantastic and proved Moncton can really pack 'em in," said Aube, who was in Moncton last fall. While in Moncton, he visited the Coliseum, the Magnetic Hill concert site and other venues used for hosting concerts and events.

The Elton John show, which was promoted and organized by GEG, broke three records for the Coliseum, including an attendance record of 8,704 people and gross sales of well over $1 million. But in today's concert business, promoters are looking for bigger venues that can generate more gross income to help cover the rising overhead costs of manpower, fuel, electricity and other factors. Gillett also presented concerts by Avril Lavigne, Backstreet Boys, Simple Plan, Lenny Kravitz and the Australian Pink Floyd band in Moncton.

"You have great fans in Moncton, they are very culturally inclined and enjoy all kinds of shows," Aube said, adding Moncton's demographics and bilingual nature make it ideal for promoters to plan shows.

Aubé wouldn't say which bands he couldn't fit in to the Coliseum, but his company presents many shows at the Montreal Bell Centre, which holds about 15,000. Some of those acts include Celine Dion, Fleetwood Mac, the Disney Ice Show and a monster truck event.

Aubé said a downtown multi-use facility that could seat 12,000 to 15,000 would be a good investment for Metro Moncton. The idea has already been endorsed by the city, the provincial government and local representatives of the federal government. Premier Shawn Graham has said he wants to help make Moncton the entertainment centre of Atlantic Canada and pledged his support for a metro centre.

Officials have said the arena would not replace the Coliseum, but complement it. The centre could be used to stage sporting events, concerts and other entertainment that would likely draw audiences from all over New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island, creating economic spinoffs for hotels, restaurants, gas stations, retailers and many other businesses.

The City of Moncton has already hired a consultant to look at what kind of facility would be best. Although no exact location for the building has been specified, three downtown areas have been identified as possibilities.

He said a larger building in Moncton would help promoters line up mini-tours of Atlantic Canada that would also include stops in Halifax and Saint John. A larger building would mean promoters could promise acts more money, which is important when considering the cost of touring. Large bands usually travel with several tractor-trailers worth of gear, along with buses for the band and crews. This is expensive, especially if they have to travel all the way from Boston or Montreal to a small market like Atlantic Canada. Having bigger arenas to fill means there is more money to make it worthwhile for the touring companies.

Aubé said it would be important for the city to make sure a new arena has the flexibility to handle a variety of entertainment and sporting events. Big bands and circus performers need high ceilings. They also need good access to dressing rooms, merchandising kiosks, food service, rigging towers, Internet and phone lines, staging and loading doors that allow a quick roll in and roll out of equipment. Touring groups want to be able to set up quickly and tear down immediately after the show, put the gear in the trucks and hit the road for the next gig.

Aubé even offered the experience of his production experts to help plan the building.

"I think that would be a win-win situation."






- A few points of mine regarding that article:

- The T&T needs to research things i.e. seating capacitys of arenas. The Coliseum seats 6,500 for hockey not 4,500, and the Bell Center has a 22,000 capicity.
- The T&T needs to stop using the "Metro Center" moniker
- The T&T needs to realize that 15,000 seats is WAY too massive for a market like Moncton, and we will most likely see one in the 10-12,000 range.
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mmmat, did you call me Jimi in the T&T comment section? Hahaha, that's ok.

Here are my comments on the article posted in the T&T comments section:

"T&T and Alan Cochrane, please research your facts before publishing. And please stop referring the proposed new Moncton arena complex as "Metro Center". It hasn't been built or officially named yet. A "Metro Center" already exist, it's located in Halifax. Be a little more creative. Here, let me help. "The Moncton Codiac Complex".

Anyway, the Moncton Coliseum has 6500 uncomfortable cramped plastic seats. The Montreal Bell Center has 22000 comfortable bigger seats with plenty of leg room.

A new 12000 seat arena strategically located downtown (Highfield Square) would cost around 70 million with a yearly operational cost of 2.75 million.

Economic spin-offs are well worth the cost.

A well built, well designed, well managed facility with modern equipment with smart people at the helm, equals success. I live downtown and nothing would please me more than to see this come to life."
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The unemployment stats for January have come out. I think there is interesting news here for New Brunswick.

In December, NB was the only province in the country to have a decrease in the unemployment rate.
In January, the unemployment rate in NB did go up, but only by a paltry 0.1%. Only Saskatchewan did better.

The rates and percent change in January for each province are as follows:


SK_____4.1%_____decrease 0.1%
AB_____4.4%_____increase 0.2%
MB_____4.6%_____increase 0.3%
BC_____6.2%_____increase 0.9%
QC_____7.7%_____increase 0.4%
ON_____8.0%_____increase 0.8%
NB_____8.7%_____increase 0.1%
NS_____8.8%_____increase 0.6%
PE____11.9%_____increase 0.2%
NL____14.3%_____increase 0.6%


So far, it would appear that NB is escaping the recession. This is not to say that it won't have an effect here, but we might end up doing better than some other parts of our country.
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- A few points of mine regarding that article:

- The T&T needs to research things i.e. seating capacitys of arenas. The Coliseum seats 6,500 for hockey not 4,500, and the Bell Center has a 22,000 capicity.
- The T&T needs to stop using the "Metro Center" moniker
- The T&T needs to realize that 15,000 seats is WAY too massive for a market like Moncton, and we will most likely see one in the 10-12,000 range.

I think the T&T is getting worse! I saw this article in the paper today as well, and it was so poorly written that I decided that it would be too embarrassing to post it in this thread. I mean, Jesus Christ, does anyone at that paper think to check their facts before publishing an article! Where were the editors here! Poorly written and researched copy like this belongs in a high school newspaper, not in the highest circulation publication in the province!!!
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mmmat, did you call me Jimi in the T&T comment section? Hahaha, that's ok.
haha I noticed that after posting, an "l" got slipped in there by accident, cant edit those comments after posting unfortunately...glad to hear you are a voice of reason on those comment boards, there is a small group of frequent commenters on that site and they are mainly nay-sayers, thats what prompted me to make an account and contradict them.

Its just sad that the vast majority of people in Moncton support the new arena but most of the people who muster the effort to make an account are the people who are dead-set against it...its always the extreemes that are the loudest I guess haha.
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Since I'm bored here at work on a Friday evening, I figured I'd search the remaining web sites yet visited on the internet and look for a hockey arena with 12000 seats.

So here's a good perspective view of the North Charleston Coliseum which has 12000 seats. I'll spare the outside view because it looks like a giant pink bubble gum. Although, it does look very modern.

This would fit nicely for Moncton.



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The unemployment stats for January have come out. I think there is interesting news here for New Brunswick.

In December, NB was the only province in the country to have a decrease in the unemployment rate.
In January, the unemployment rate in NB did go up, but only by a paltry 0.1%. Only Saskatchewan did better.

The rates and percent change in January for each province are as follows:


SK_____4.1%_____decrease 0.1%
AB_____4.4%_____increase 0.2%
MB_____4.6%_____increase 0.3%
BC_____6.2%_____increase 0.9%
QC_____7.7%_____increase 0.4%
ON_____8.0%_____increase 0.8%
NB_____8.7%_____increase 0.1%
NS_____8.8%_____increase 0.6%
PE____11.9%_____increase 0.2%
NL____14.3%_____increase 0.6%


So far, it would appear that NB is escaping the recession. This is not to say that it won't have an effect here, but we might end up doing better than some other parts of our country.
Very true, NB seems to be holding the line well recently

however for the year perspective we did increase by 0.8% from 7.9%-8.7%

In fact there was only one region in NB whos unemployment rate went down during 2008, the Moncton-Richibucto area went down by 0.4% to rest at 6.4%

The region with the lowest unemployment rate in NB is Saint John-St. Stephen @ 6.3%

The Fredericton-Oromocto is the same as Moncton @ 6.4%

Here is the breakdown

Year___Population___Labour Force___Unemploy Rate

New Brunswick

2008___ 615.3___ 390.0___ 7.9
2009___ 619.7___ 394.0___ 8.7

Campbellton-Miramichi

2008___ 135.8___ 76.8___ 14.2
2009___ 135.5___ 73.1___17.0

Moncton-Richibucto

2008___ 164.2___ 107.8___ 6.8
2009___ 166.7___ 112.6___ 6.4

Saint John-St. Stephen

2008___ 142.4___ 95.1___ 5.3
2009___ 143.4___ 94.4___ 6.3

Fredericton-Oromocto

2008___ 104.7___ 68.8___ 5.1
2009___ 105.9___ 70.4___ 6.4

Edmundston-Woodstock

2008___ 68.2___ 41.5___ 9.6
2009___ 68.2___ 43.5___ 10.1

from here: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/71-001-x/2009001/t021-eng.htm
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When has the T&T ever made an effort to do proper editing? There are times when I really wonder if they subscribe to the 'if you repeat something again and again, eventually it'll come true' mantra.

Also, it's interesting that in the Moncton-Richibucto Region, the population increased by about 2500 in a year, but the labour force grew by just under 5000 with a drop in unemployment. I guess you could take from it is that, not only has the number of people working increased, the job creation growth rate is outpacing it.
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