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I highly doubt that the Jets will ever return to Winnipeg!
Probably before the Grizzlies return to Vancouver!
     
     
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Dude, if your gunna just stir up shit here, then you might as well quit while your ahead. Now go back to your "little" Winnipeg forums and monitor nothing being constructed.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2009, 5:54 AM
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i missed something on the news last week

is whistler's celebration plaza being cancelled?
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2009, 6:01 AM
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i missed something on the news last week

is whistler's celebration plaza being cancelled?
No, the $14-million celebration plaza is already being built right now. But the medal ceremonies at the venue will probably be axed, and instead the Whistler medals will either be presented at the main medal ceremony venue at BC Place or at the sport venues right after the competitions. However, cultural events will still go on at the celebration plaza.

It was a terrible idea in the first place to have two medal ceremony venues, and I believe that's the plan for the opening ceremonies as well.
     
     
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ah

it was one of the those turn on the news and miss the story things
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2009, 6:20 AM
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Dude, it's the Olympics....what do you expect? It's not like this is just another concert coming into the venue.

Everything they do is warranted, and security checks for everyone are probably recommended by the RCMP's 2010 security committee. There are definitely some serious security concerns.
i am not worried about the security checks... its the other operational requirements that they get to set. I know how to do my job and i dont need VANOC telling me how to do it because they will not know what to do!
     
     
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i am not worried about the security checks... its the requirement that they are setting to work the venues... they state you must be available at all times during the 18days or else you cant work at all...only access to one venue etc... its either do it VANOC's way or else you are fired!
yeah i thought of volunteering too but it was like you have to give up your life for the duration

and well I don't have that much vacation time - i don't want to use it up working
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I applied for volunteering and went for orientation/interview. I hope I get it and I'll ask my employer for permission to take time off during that time if I get accepted. Hopefully everything works out. It's almost like a once-in-a-life-time opportunity as it'll be unlikely Vancouver will host another Olympic in my life time.
     
     
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i am not worried about the security checks... its the other operational requirements that they get to set. I know how to do my job and i dont need VANOC telling me how to do it because they will not know what to do!
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Dude, if your gunna just stir up shit here, then you might as well quit while your ahead. Now go back to your "little" Winnipeg forums and monitor nothing being constructed.
Certain Vancouver forum members appear to be an ultra-sensitive, insecure thin skinned lot, who feel that any comment they make should never have a rebuttal.
     
     
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Buddy, you came in here to stir up shit for no apparent reason, nobody bit, now just give up and go back to your section. You're making an ass of yourself.
     
     
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Well pardon my langauge

but VANOC is an idiot!

from what i hear... expect a gongshow at BC Place and GM Place... VANOC wants to run the show during the OLYMPICS with their rules and trust me not looking good... ( but then again, they are very secretive even though i work at the venues, they told us you will go through security background check and what not... usual stuff... but the sense is that we do all of what they say or nothing, but they wont tell us the full details and apparently a chunk of us are getting "fired" even though we dont work for VANOC
its not like BC Place and GM Place have never been used before. there are different events run by different people held multiple times throughout the year. its going to be fine.... (fingers crossed)

and they should be secretive. crazy shit can happen at olympics. remember Munich?
     
     
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Buddy, you came in here to stir up shit for no apparent reason, nobody bit, now just give up and go back to your section. You're making an ass of yourself.


Actually, I stated a known fact, the winter Olympics are the ugly step sister to the summer Olympics (just look at the difference in cities hosting them), what Vancouver the province of British Columbia and Canada are paying for these games will never be recouped in economic spin offs and with the current economic state these games can turn into a clusterfuck of debt to epic proportions!~
     
     
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Actually, I stated a known fact, the winter Olympics are the ugly step sister to the summer Olympics (just look at the difference in cities hosting them)
Methinks that you should troll over to the Alberta forum and make the same case about the Calgary '88 Olympics.


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what Vancouver the province of British Columbia and Canada are paying for these games will never be recouped in economic spin offs and with the current economic state these games can turn into a clusterfuck of debt to epic proportions!~
Again, read my previous statement. A little knowledge and intelligence can go a long way.

Your uninformed negativism as well as your political support for the Manitoba NDP tells me everything that I want to know:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=3833
     
     
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Will it be a bigger waste than Winnipeg building an arena after the Jets left the city with hopes of attracting a new NHL team but realizing the stadium you built is too small and you'd have to build another one?
     
     
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Will it be a bigger waste than Winnipeg building an arena after the Jets left the city with hopes of attracting a new NHL team but realizing the stadium you built is too small and you'd have to build another one?
ohhhhh....burn.
     
     
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Bramham: Vanoc shows how to run a tight, transparent Olympic budget


By Daphne Bramham
January 30, 2009 10:00 PM

Balancing a budget in these uncertain economic times is no mean feat even for executives that have years of experience in their industry.

Sure, Vanoc has backtracked from earlier projections of an operating surplus. But spare a few kind thoughts for Vanoc’s executives who have worked overtime sorting out how to stage the 2010 Winter Games without an operating deficit and without substantively altering the plan.

And if you’re of a mind, you might even pray that they got it right because the B.C. government is on the hook for any shortfall. However, the operating costs — with the exception of security — are funded almost exclusively by private sources.

The only sacrifice any athletes and visitors will notice is that medals will not be awarded each night at the Whistler Celebration Plaza. The plaza will still be constructed and there will be nightly entertainment. Medals will now be awarded at the venues and, as a result, there’s no need for triple redundancies on power or full broadcast facilities at the plaza. It means a savings of $5 million, which is an indication of just how closely Vanoc is monitoring every expenditure.

Vanoc plans to get by with fewer staff to save $12.9 million. Staff wages rose only two per cent this year and not the promised three, while the management team took no wage increase at all. However, the senior managers did get their annual retention bonuses.

Is Vanoc’s new operating budget perfect? Probably not. Are there still risks to its forecasts? Absolutely.

A huge one is that Vanoc has yet to finalize the rental fees for Whistler and Cypress. There are agreements-in-principle with Fortress Investment Group and family-owned Boyne Resorts, but no final contracts.

Vanoc chief executive John Furlong says there is “a box around the costs.”

Still, with only a year until the Games, both resort owners are in the enviable position of knowing that the Olympics cannot go on without their mountains.

And Fortress, in particular, is cash-strapped and Whistler/Blackcomb is one of its biggest holdings. In the past four months, the money manager/hedge fund has gone from a multi-billion company to a troubled one. Its shares have fallen to $1.34 from $31 when the company went public in February 2007. That’s a drop of 96 per cent.

Fortress is so cash-poor that it stopped disbursing its $750 loan to Millennium for the Vancouver Olympic athletes village, which resulted in the city of Vancouver stepping in.

But where Vanoc faces the most uncertainty is in its revenue projections. The global economic meltdown has caused every company to rethink every expenditure on everything and that includes the Olympics.

As a cushion, Vanoc has set aside $27 million of its $100-million contingency fund to cover unexpected revenue shortfalls. It has also reduced its projections for international, domestic sponsorships and marketing royalties by $8.3 million less than the original budget.

However, there are a few interesting — dare I say risky — assumptions in the budget.

Vanoc boosted its projected merchandise revenue to $53.82 million from $46 million and ticket sales’ revenue by $17.5 million to $260.45 million based on its experience to date.

But retail sales are down in all of the key Winter Games markets — Europe and North America. European sales declined in each of the last eight months. U.S. sales have dropped in each of the last three months and while B.C. posted growth of 1.3 per cent in retail sales last year, Central 1 Credit Union predicts a 1.2-per-cent decline in the coming year.

As for ticket sales, the Super Bowl — the National Football League’s biggest party — is also a marquee sporting event that attracts a similar kind of affluent and enthusiastic sports crowd. For this weekend’s game, there was a marked decline in corporate spending on everything from ticket buying to hospitality suites to advertising.That’s a troubling harbinger for the International Olympic Committee and Vanoc.

Still, there was something reassuring in the grim faces of the Vanoc executives at Friday’s media briefing. They do seem to be taking this seriously and they’re even telling us how they plan to make ends meet.

Now, if only the various levels of government would be as transparent about their Olympic-related costs and their spending oversight, we might all be able to breath a little easier.

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Will it be a bigger waste than Winnipeg building an arena after the Jets left the city with hopes of attracting a new NHL team but realizing the stadium you built is too small and you'd have to build another one?
The new Winnipeg arena the MTS Centre keeps packing them in, according to Pollstar Magazine, which says the Phone Booth is now the 19th busiest building in the world.
Through the first nine months of this year, the MTS Centre has sold 270,095 tickets. These ticket sales include only non-sporting events and do not include hockey games.
The arena now sits 11th among facilities in North America, its highest ranking ever, and it remains in third spot in Canada, after the Bell Centre in Montreal (fourth overall) and the Air Canada Centre in Toronto (third overall).

That's right busier than GM place!
     
     
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