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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 11:34 PM
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Old Riverview firehall becomes Chocolate River Station
Published Thursday January 29th, 2009

Renovation of complex, to house retailers and eateries, expected to be completed by July 1
By Eric Lewis
Times & Transcript Staff

Riverview's long-discussed and long-awaited Fundy Gateway project finally has a name.


This is an artist rendering of the Chocolate River Sations. And while it was once the Riverview Fire Station, 391 Coverdale Rd. will soon be the Chocolate River Station.

The town's chief administrative officer and manager David Muir confirmed the new name yesterday and put a timeline on the project, which has been talked about or been in the works for the better part of a decade.

Renovation of and an extension to the town's former fire hall are set to begin in the next week or so, with an expected completion date of June 1, as long as there are no more bumps in the road for the $2.75-million project.

It comes at a perfect time too, Muir notes, since the federal government said in its budget announcement this week that money would be given to the province to work on completion of the Fundy Trail Parkway.

The Parkway should bring more tourists into this region of the province, which will only further benefit Riverview's new tourism venture.

"Absolutely," Muir says, when asked if this means bigger and better things for Riverview's own project. "We always thought we would try to capitalize on (being at one end of the Parkway)."

For years the Chocolate River Station had been referred to as the Fundy Gateway project; Riverview is indeed a gateway into the national park and other Albert County tourist attractions, including the Hopewell Rocks.

Muir says the town hopes to "siphon" tourists into the town and into the new attraction.

The Gateway project dates back nearly 10 years, and it's one Riverview council has been waiting a long time to see come to fruition.

Perhaps Ward 2 Councillor Ian MacDonald expressed council's sentiments best on Monday night at a council meeting.

"Git 'er done!" MacDonald said after council awarded Moncton's Rice Contracting the tender to complete renovations and construction of the extension.

Mayor Clarence Sweetland offered similar thoughts on the project.

"It's been a long time coming," he said this week, excitement on his face and a little relief in his voice. "There was a lot of planning and a lot of work."

Over the coming weeks, more of the prospective tenants of Chocolate River Station will be making themselves known, Muir says.

St-Anne-de-Kent soap maker Olivier Soapery was announced several years ago as the anchor outlet in the Gateway project, and yesterday another business confirmed it would take up shop in the Station.

Rocky Mountain Maple, a maple sugar company based in Hillsborough, will open a retail outlet in Chocolate River Station, owner David Briggs says.

"I'm excited for it," he said yesterday. "It's a whole new venture for us."

Rocky Mountain Maple has been in business in Stilesville for 10 years, but maple sugar processing has been in the Briggs family for five generations.

Opening a retail outlet is the next logical step.

Briggs says the operation will have a museum-like atmosphere and will showcase processing of all kinds of maple products, including maple butter, cream, syrup and candy.

Displays showcasing family history and maple syrup history will be a part of the store.

Other food will be on sale as well, and there will be chocolate elements in the store to build on the theme of the entire Chocolate River Station.

Briggs is excited about the opportunities that lie ahead, and he says Chocolate River Station is like "nothing else in this area."

Muir says it is expected that all of the tenants of the development will take a hands-on approach to their businesses, providing demonstrations and seminars of their products to really give people a feel for the culture of the region.

Albert County artists will have room to showcase and sell their products in the building, and a boardwalk outside, housing a number of small kiosks, is expected to create a market-like atmosphere in the summer.

A restaurant or food court will take up the second floor of the old fire hall, and a tourism office, operated by the town and promoting the entire Fundy region, will be housed in the building.

It would only make sense, with a name like Chocolate River Station, that a chocolatier set up shop in the building and indeed, one has been mentioned in the past as a possible tenant.

Muir could not confirm this yesterday however, and calls to famed New Brunswick chocolate maker Ganong, based in St. Stephen, were not returned yesterday afternoon.

A piece of land that once housed an Esso gas station next to the old firehall will serve as a parking lot for vehicles and buses, with plenty of room for tour buses to turn around and manoeuvre.

Imperial Oil still owns the old Esso land and refused to sell it to the town, but they were happy to arrange a long-term lease agreement with Riverview to allow for a parking lot to be built.

The entire project is expected to cost $2.75 million. The federal government, through the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, has committed $1 million to the project, and Mayor Sweetland is hopeful the province will also support the project through funding as well.

The town already owns the old firehall building and the land it sits on, which isn't included in the $2.75-million price tag.

In all, Sweetland expects the town's share will be about $1.5 million, on top of the land and building. And the town will own it all when the project is finished.

"We're putting in about a $1.5 million, and we're coming away with an asset that's worth about $3 million, so that's not a bad deal," he says.

Personal note; Is it just me or does every time they post a new picture in the paper about this development, it looks different.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 11:36 PM
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I think you're right, MonctonRad

I'm glad they're finally doing something with it.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 11:40 PM
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The following table says it all:

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Here we go again, Moncton and its magic math, why don't you include a 24 hour drive because that would include southern ontario and then you could say you have a population of half the country. Moncton = 126,000, deal with it. Most of the population you are including are other cities with their own arenas! They aren't going to a hockey game or concert in Moncton if the same kind of hockey or act is playing in their own city.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 11:53 PM
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Here we go again, Moncton and its magic math, why don't you include a 24 hour drive because that would include southern ontario and then you could say you have a population of half the country. Moncton = 126,000, deal with it. Most of the population you are including are other cities with their own arenas! They aren't going to a hockey game or concert in Moncton if the same kind of hockey or act is playing in their own city.

It's not magic math at all. Moncton is the most central city in the Maritimes, deal with it!

And, oh by the way yes, people are known to get in the car and drive a couple of hours to go to a special concert that they really want to see. It happens all the time! Why, I've even driven down to Halifax to go to certain special events.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 11:55 PM
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There are two real problems with the coliseum as it is. First, it's aging, and it really shows. Secondly, the roof is too low for a lot of acts. If the city intends to replace the coliseum, it would not significantly increase the cost to put in a couple thousand extra seats. Even if the Wildcats aren't the biggest draw, there quite a few events there every year which fill it to capacity.
Even the Islanders of the NHL decided to move out west with their training camp/pre-season instead of taking the 3rd year option here. It's partly because Moncton can only hold 6000+ fans per game.

A brand new 12000 seat arena downtown would open so many more options and help put us on the map for shows. We'd be much tougher competition for Halifax and PEI for drawing the big acts.

Just having the option of parking the car, eating at a sports pub, the Keg or a club, then walking downtown to a Wildcats game, concert, whatever, is a night out much more interesting then what we currently have with the Coliseum location. I guarantee the attendence for games increases by a couple thousand.

"Build for the future" as they say.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2009, 12:24 AM
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It's not magic math at all. Moncton is the most central city in the Maritimes, deal with it!

And, oh by the way yes, people are known to get in the car and drive a couple of hours to go to a special concert that they really want to see. It happens all the time! Why, I've even driven down to Halifax to go to certain special events.
I'm not saying Moncton cannot draw people in from other places. It likely is a "centre" for some things in New Brunswick and even PEI. Moncton might be close to the geographical centre of the maritimes, but it is not the "centre". This discussion is useless when your talking to people in a dream world who only can see things that benefit their endless promotion of Moncton. Thankfully hardly anyone but the people in Moncton listen to it. There is so much B.S. and fluff talk in the Moncton forum people from Saint John must be so sick of it.

However, I will say good luck and I hope you get your new arena. As long as that's what the people of Moncton want their tax dollars spent on!
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2009, 1:33 AM
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Thankfully hardly anyone but the people in Moncton listen to it. There is so much B.S. and fluff talk in the Moncton forum people from Saint John must be so sick of it.
You hit the nail on the head there Q12. We dont even pay attention to them anymore in this city. Its beyond normal anymore.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2009, 4:49 AM
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Man this thread can be funny sometimes haha...

anyways, on to actual on topic discussion, The "Fundy Gateway" looks quite nice compared to the original design, that will really clean up that area
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2009, 5:03 AM
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Are they tearing down the fire hall and replacing it, or completely renovating the entire structure?
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2009, 5:40 AM
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Are they tearing down the fire hall and replacing it, or completely renovating the entire structure?
Looks to me like they will renovate the current structure and add on some extra space.

And for everyone in NB who is hung up on the internal "competition" aspect of things check this out:

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/090127/t090127a2-eng.htm

This table shows that NB as a whole is doing great right now, the amount of people receiving EI since last year has increased a marginal 1.5% which is the second lowest in Canada, after SK. The national average was 11.7%.

We are holding up very well amid the apparent global economic crisis, I think we need to stick together and make sure this continues
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2009, 11:58 AM
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Anyone interested in setting up a water-taxi betweem the new "Chocolate River Station" and the "Bore Park BoardWalk"? Wasn't there a HoverCraft plying the waters a few years ago?
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2009, 12:48 PM
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While that'd be cool, I really can't see there being any market for that whatsoever. Plus, who'd want to get that close to the river? It may look like chocolate milk, but...
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Anyone interested in setting up a water-taxi betweem the new "Chocolate River Station" and the "Bore Park BoardWalk"? Wasn't there a HoverCraft plying the waters a few years ago?
I always thought that they should have some shops and vendors along Boardwalk, I think a lot of people in the summer would go down there for a walk, or eat lunch on the boardwalk if there were some patios to eat on. Its to bad that some of the restaurants that are down there now back onto the boardwalk and don't have a patio for people to enjoy, I think the Chateau is the only one that has one. A water taxi between the two would be interesting, but with the tides...might be difficult to have it run a regular schedule.
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N.B. chocolatier the latest tenant of town's Fundy Gateway project
A1 Published Fruday January 30th, 2009
By Eric Lewis
Tines & Transcript Staff

Ganong chocolates is the "icing on the cake" for Riverview's Fundy Gateway project, the town's mayor said yesterday.

The famous New Brunswick chocolate company confirmed yesterday it would open a small retail outlet in the Fundy Gateway project in Riverview's old fire hall.

Bryana Ganong, the company's director of quality assurance and product innovation, says, "We're a small part of it, that's for sure, but we're excited about it."

Riverview Mayor Clarence Sweetland is excited Ganong's involvement in the Gateway project.

"We're very pleased about that," he says. "It is a big name, widely known in New Brunswick and beyond New Brunswick, so we're quite pleased to have them as part of Fundy Gateway."

The Ganong outlet will be a small retail store selling some of the company's higher end, handcrafted chocolates. The store will likely also hold demonstrations on chocolate and fudge making.

"We're still developing that," Ganong says. "We're working as a group with Olivier and Rocky Mountain Maple, the other major tenants in the complex. And so we're kind of working on the things that will be done there.

"But mostly for us it will be a retail outlet and we may evolve into making some handmade products in the store over time as well."

This will only be the second retail outlet for the chocolate institution. The other one is in St. Stephen where Ganong's head office is based.

Jeff McShane, Ganong Chocolatier retail store manager, will oversee the Riverview operation.

He says the small operation will likely employ four or five people, some on a seasonal basis.

Ganong's premium, handcrafted chocolates are currently only available at the company's St. Stephen outlet. The Riverview location will provide them another location to sell gift packages and take special orders.

McShane says some chocolates will be priced around 50 cents a piece and boxes will range from $4 to $36 a box, depending on the amount purchased.

"I think it's a great fit for Riverview," McShane says. "One of the key selling points for us is it's sort of the gateway to the Fundy experience and a captive audience of tourists going by that area."

McShane says the company is looking at holding special functions and promotions with the other outlets in the Gateway as well.

"Nothing is nailed down yet, we're still in the planning stages, but those are certainly what our focus is on and what we're leaning towards."

Sweetland says Ganong is a "positive shot in the arm for our development."

"We know it will make our development more widely known, and I think it will make it more interesting and more attractive to customers," the mayor says.

Ganong was approached by the Town of Riverview last summer.

David Muir, the town's chief administrative officer and manager, credits Brenda Orchard, the town's director of corporate services and economic development, with Ganong being involved.

"This has been Brenda's project almost from day one," Muir says. "I know she's been working with Ganong for quite a while as sort of the main tenants. They're well known; people know Ganongs. That'll add to the facility being a destination for people."

Work on the Fundy Gateway project is expected to start over the next week. The town hopes to have it completed by June 1.

Contrary to information that appeared in yesterday's Times & Transcript, the Gateway project does not have a final new name just yet.

Yesterday's story referred to the project as Chocolate River Station.

Mayor Clarence Sweetland said yesterday that it is one of the names being discussed, but name has not been adopted yet.

Several names are in the works and one will be chosen in the coming months.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2009, 5:32 PM
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I still think the 'look' of the building is atrocious...they should have tried to keep it looking more like the old fire station.

Fantastic that Ganong is coming to the GMA.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2009, 8:06 PM
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Well, if Ganong moves into the Fundy Gateway Project in Riverview, at least it will make the name "Chocolate River Station" meaningful.

Seriously, I don't know if I like the idea of mixing the Olivier Soapery with the Rocky Mountain Maple Products and Ganong stores. Olivier soaps are really pungent and I think that might be somewhat offputting with all those food products nearby.

Perhaps Olivier will be in a hermetically sealed part of the building!
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Mmmmmmmm Papa John's
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Hi everyone

I’ve lurking and spying on you guys for months now and I finally decided to post something…hopefully useful.

Here’s my thoughts on the new 12000 seat arena at Highfield Square. The red area is an actual size of the Coliseum without the agrena complex. The green area around the red is the new building which in my guess, will fit 12000 seats, although, I could be off by a couple of meters. The complex itself should only be 2 or 3 stories high since the majority of it will be build inground.

Section A: New Codiac bus / taxi parking for pick-up and drop off. Bigger and better design with a Main street entrance to the arena. Pedway to remain open.

Section B: Added parking space, since Purolator will no longer be there. No entrance on the west side.

Section C: New major entrance to venue. Large outside area with trees and park benches which connects to Main street and section A. Highfield street entrance remains open for parking and taxi drop off area.

Section D: New major entrance to venue. Visibly appealing to VIA Rail passenger trains and large parking area. Rebuild fencing along railway.

Section E: New beautiful pedway crossing the CN tracks connecting to Albert street parking.

Section F: Albert street parking to accommodate Dieppe, Riverview and Albert county visitors via Assumption blvd.

There’s also plenty of parking along side streets North of the arena. So I don’t see parking being an issue. Anyone living downtown within 1 or 2 km would walk to the venue or taxi.

That’s it for now!
Jim

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^Looks good Budyser

I have one question for a Moctonian. Where is the VIA Rail station downtown? Because I was thinking if you guys really want to attract people to the Wildcats games making a main downtown "square" of sorts could really work out. Having the train station, collesium, bus terminal and ample parking nearby could really kick up some action in that part of town, especially with it being so close to Main Street.

Its just an idea. I know the VIA Rail Station here in Halifax gives the nearby streets a lot of activity.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2009, 3:20 AM
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Welcome Budyser, it looks like you will have some thoughtful input to this forum!

The more I reflect on a downtown arena complex, the more I think the best place for it would be on the current Highfield Square site rather than on the Beaver Lumber site. (This breaks my heart because I really want something done behind Assumption Place!)

Factors in favour of Highfield;

- Traffic access would be more convenient as it would be located on Main, close to Vaughn Harvey and the Gunningsville Bridge.
- One of the main bus transfer stations in the city is located adjacent to the site.
- There is already a reasonable amount of street level parking in the area.
- Since it would front on Main Street, it would make the concept of street level retail as part of the complex quite viable.

Regarding your points Budyser,

- I like the idea of a pedway over the railway tracks. This would really expand parking options for the complex.
- I notice that you have partly situated the complex on top of The Bay department store. While Highfield Square itself is likely toast, the status of The Bay is less certain. HBC actually owns that building with the rest of Highfield Square simply appended to it. While it might make sense to relocate The Bay to Champlain Place, the presence of WalMart at Champlain effectively blocks The Bay from this move. Assuming The Bay stays in Moncton, they will likely stay put in this location for now. If so, the arena complex would only have to shift about 150m to the west and it should still fit neatly between The Bay and the Terminal Plaza office complex.
- I'm not sure that the ice surface would/should be buried below ground.

Perhaps if the arena were built here, we would have a ready made sponsor for naming rights, something like The Sobeys Centre.
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