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  #4181  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2009, 2:04 AM
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Thanks for all of the updates. This will be one awesome building.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2009, 12:33 PM
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Steel seems to be shooting up now, whether it's the FT or the memorial. Thanks for the updates NYguy!
Well, no one can deny that there is any work going on at the WTC site, even with the delays on other towers. All anyone need do is pay a visit to the site to witness just how busy it is these days. But what is shown in these photos is just a drop in the bucket compared to what is to come...

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Old Posted Jan 24, 2009, 1:23 PM
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2009, 4:29 PM
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Isn't that steel a little thin to be structural?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2009, 5:52 PM
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I think this steel is stable. It looks like any other permanent structural steel.

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Old Posted Jan 24, 2009, 6:00 PM
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4 WFC, GS, Verizon, and the FT are going to make quite the four corner effect when all is said and done. Looking up at that intersection is going to be amazing.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2009, 6:45 PM
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Isn't that steel a little thin to be structural?
Its not going to be perimeter steel its part of the core which will be covered with concrete.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2009, 10:19 PM
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Its not going to be perimeter steel its part of the core which will be covered with concrete.
I am relatively new to skyscraper construction, and have never heard of such a technique, is this something that has been used many other places, or is it something be used here do to the nature of the structure. Like the concrete and steel design makes it more able to withstand fire and terrorist attacks?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 1:46 AM
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The steel beams you see are not part of the core.

BrownTown, the beams may look thin but the engineers have calculated the loads they support and so they are more than thick enough for the job.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 3:13 AM
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Ive (like everyone else here) followed many projects from first proposal to toping out, but seeing the two memorials bieng outlined and the core and towers start is probably the most exciting thing ive seen so far. These pictures will be historicly valuable one day.

Thanks for the updates everyone.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 9:08 AM
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I am relatively new to skyscraper construction, and have never heard of such a technique, is this something that has been used many other places, or is it something be used here do to the nature of the structure. Like the concrete and steel design makes it more able to withstand fire and terrorist attacks?
The perimeter structure will be steel so this allows the steel floor beams to attach to the steel under-layer of the core. Aside from openings for the connection the steel you see in the core will be encased in concrete.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 2:48 PM
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Has anyone taken a look at the Earthcam cam today? They're doing something around the crane from the looks of it.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 3:18 PM
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The steel beams you see are not part of the core.
I think they are. All of those little "nubs" are for securing the beam insides of concrete.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 4:47 PM
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I agree with antinimby. I think this steel too thick to be covered. And those little nails only top and the bottom of the steel beams, that's mean is some kind of support to the floors and ceiling.Or the concrete only goes uprightly between the beams.

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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 5:16 PM
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Here's what it is, according to ZenSteelDude at WNY.

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They fooled me by putting it together on top of fulton street but that is the "erecting steel". It serves 2 purposes, (1) to give the floor beams something to bolt too (2) acts as a header above openings in the core walls. Yes, it well all be encased within the core walls.

I really wasn't expecting it to go up at this time, I thought the core wasn't quite high enough. As you can see it starts about 35' above the ground floor and well be continued all the way to the roof.

The lower beam defines the 2nd floor, and the upper one the 3rd floor and if you look closely at the pic TheWtusi posted you can see the column closest to the camera is actually hanging in mid-air waiting for the north core.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 5:16 PM
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this is going to be strong, no steel trusses here, let alone sheet rock...
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 5:25 PM
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Nevermind, too slow
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 5:36 PM
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I think they know what they're doing guys...
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 6:16 PM
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rofl, seriously. It's hilarious when people are skeptic of what the top engineers and architects in the world are doing. people did the same thing with the burj and wind resistance too.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2009, 11:00 PM
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^ They are all out to get us. "Hmmm, what can we build today to confuse all those skyscraper enthusiasts?" They could play cruel jokes like building frames with wood 2x4's
     
     
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