Winnipeg | Historical discussion

[viperred88]

that farmers market building would of been great to have still, they could of made a patio for restaurants on the flat roof part by turning those big windows into doors.

I am probably the only one and nuts to say this but the real forks market should of been at this location at the exchange farmers market that would stretch all the way down to the east exchange at the alexander docks. All of our other empty warehouses would of been occupied. We shouldn't of extended our merchant area to the forks instead it should of been another Central Park like in New York or Chicago's Millenium Park.

Again its sad to see city hall, old post office, Royal Alexander hotel, MB College and the parliment all vanished.

Doesn't the McIntyre still exist?

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by trueviking

how environmentally sustainable...

well, now you got my top 5 andy....city hall, the farmer's market, mckintyre, the post office and the alex.

dammit that would be cool to still have that market building...stupid 60's.

perhaps when the city leaves the psb we can tar it down and put that parkade underground and put a new market space above that

[rgalston]

The market building didn't look like that when it was torn down, as it was renovated when the indoor market closed and the building became offices for civic departments. I don't know if they added a floor or two, but they certainly sqared off the top off the building so that the pitched roof was no longer visable.

The outdoor market continued on the outside of the building in warm months until the early 1960s when Steven Juba had it closed to become parking space for City workers. It was wrecked a few years later.

Nice symbolism for the libertarians: the city's public agora becomes offices for bureaucrats, which later becomes police headquarters.

I love these photos, Andy. In that shot looking west on Broadway from Main, that block on the NW corner of Garry looks conspicuously Modern. Anyone notice that?

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by rgalston

I love these photos, Andy. In that shot looking west on Broadway from Main, that block on the NW corner of Garry looks conspicuously Modern. Anyone notice that?

The Broadway Court, 251 Broadway. According to that "Broadway" book it was demolished in the 1940s, so it seems to have had only a 35-year run. Would be interesting to see a shot of it at closer range.

[drew]

Originally Posted by trueviking

awesome andy...what do you do with what seems to be a vast collection of historic books and photos?

the post office and the royal alex certainly are up there near the top of the list for the saddest losses for me....

The post office burned down right?

The little park along the Assiniboine river trail west of the granite curling club on Mostyn has some pieces of the tyndal columns from the front of the post office randomly strewn around. I guess it is some sort of art, but it kind of looks depressing these days.

[J-MAN]

Originally Posted by viperred88

.... where did it all go... ???

[Archiseek]

architect's rendering of the post office



http://canada.archiseek.com/victoriana/manitoba/0003.html

[rgalston]

Originally Posted by drew

The post office burned down right?

Nope. Neither did the older post office (c. 1875), on Main and McDermot, where the CWB annex is now. That was a unique building, and would have certainly been the tallest building in the city for a while.

[mrlahey1967]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34544542@N06/3210622037/sizes/l/

[flatlander]

On the National tonight there was a story about the US civil rights movement and the inauguration. There was a clip of Horace Huntley, a soldier from Alabama stationed in North Dakota. He came to Winnipeg for a weekend and was shocked to have a white woman come and sit beside him on a bus. In Alabama he was required to sit at the back of the bus.

Interesting story but the relevant portion is that there was a brief video clip of Main Street looking south from P+M, and another shot I didn't catch in time. Very interesting. Anyone else see it?

[rgalston]

Originally Posted by flatlander

On the National tonight there was a story about the US civil rights movement and the inauguration. There was a clip of Horace Huntley, a soldier from Alabama stationed in North Dakota. He came to Winnipeg for a weekend and was shocked to have a white woman come and sit beside him on a bus. In Alabama he was required to sit at the back of the bus.

Interesting story but the relevant portion is that there was a brief video clip of Main Street looking south from P+M, and another shot I didn't catch in time. Very interesting. Anyone else see it?

Interesting. My heart is too a-flutter dreaming about all the change St. Obama is going to give us to be watching CBC.

[rgalston]

I came across a bit of information about the man who first lived (and presumably built) my house, back in 1882. Nathaniel Boyd, who went on to become a Conservative M.P.

At the time, Mr. Boyd was a partner in Boyd and Crowe, a lumber business that operated at the corner of Maple Street and Point Douglas Avenue. Mr. Boyd lived in my house, while Crowe lived two doors down (or next door in 1882). Before 1882, Mr. Boyd was listed as living on Mary (now Martha) Street.

Future Prime Minister Arthur Meighan worked for his (unsuccessful) campaign when he ran for M.P. for Portage la Prairie in 1904.



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I met with a man who lives on Roslyn Road, in what was the Kilmorie Estate's Gatehouse. Kilmorie being the home of Sir Augustus Nanton, one of the wealthiest Winnipeggers, who was knighted after raising some £100,000,000 for the Allies during World War One. He then came home and patrolled the grounds of Kilmorie with a rifle during the general strike. The house was torn down in the 1930s, but the Gatehouse remained.

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Buflyer2000 has some new photos on his/her Flickr page, including this amazing view looking south down Arthur Street, 1895. In 15 years, this little collection of shanties and small commercial buildings would be unrecognizable, becoming the centre of the warehouse district, and one of the most physically imposing and compact neighborhoods in the city.

[1ajs]

wow even back then there was a padio area at the corner of banitne alber and arther crazy

and its neat seeing that church stading on the surface lot in the midle

o and theres the church up at graham and donald

funny how there used to be a church where artspace is now



neat tidbit on ur home rob




and heres another one for buflyer2000

from cityhall noticed the manitoba hotel and the old cury building rear but whats that arched roof building?



wth happen to these facades along the oxy?

[Andy6]

Don't know what that is, Adrian. Very strange. Interesting to see the Manitoba Hotel as perhaps the city's most prominent building.

The first pic is interesting. The Clarendon Hotel is the big building on Portage at the time (now in rebuilt and reduced form the A&B Sound building). You can see the rowhouses along Donald and Hargrave south of Portage on what became the Eaton's lot. My great grandparents were living in one of those (281 Hargrave) at the time of the 1901 census.

The Grace Church looks odd, as though there is no roof on it yet. Maybe it was under construction?

[1ajs]

still neat seeing the manitoba hotel witch burnt down within 6months of that photo being taken i would imagin?

witch ones the grace church?

[Andy6]

The one in what is now the triangular parking lot.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by Andy6

The one in what is now the triangular parking lot.

it had a flat roof

[trueviking]

i could look at these photos all day....

you kind of think that all those old buildings downtown today were the first ones to be there, but there was a whole city there before that almost completly vanished, except the street layout.

those townhouses on the eatons site are awesome....i wonder if people protested their demolition....probably....i also love all those canopies along main street in the lower photo....

its also amazing that there was never a triangular building on the corner of albert and arthur....its seems natural, but it has been an open lot since day one.

[1ajs]

same viking

hows ur guys building they find a fix for it?

[trueviking]

ive never been on that flickr page before...some amazing images...someone needs to rip that metal off the ikon office on main...that building is beautiful!....i love that there ahs been a giant parking lot behind the grain exchange and in that triangular lot on notre dame for 70 years....

this one is amazing....who says a football stadium doesnt fit downtown.