
i still believe in the Ritz, but it does appear that this one will be above ground first, so if the Shangri-La was not here it would become the tallest tower in Van, even if for less than a year, hehe. The theme of the comment is i find this project has been overshadowed, and if it were not for the S-L (and the Ritz) is would have received much more attention on this forum. Simply meaning, 5 years ago this would have been huge.