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Old Posted Dec 29, 2008, 10:41 PM
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^ Yes, that's true, you're right. The raised LaSalle entrance slipped my mind.

I wonder if Chicago can take the record for number of highrises whose height is reduced due to elevated entrances? I'd love to see a spreadsheet listing all of them and the "true" heights.

Also, for what it's worth, I think a number of our buildings might get "officially taller" due to the new rules (like Leo Burnett, which has an entrance on Dearborn Street that is a touch lower than the Wacker Drive entrance, 1 N. Wacker, etc.). Does Emporis have a surveying crew?
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I see fins and they arent that bad lookin either. Ok in the render they looked a bit better but maybe when they are lit up they might turn out pretty nice after all. Thanx for the update jc5680
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 31, 2008, 6:13 PM
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2 tenants scrap plans to move into new towers
By Eddie Baeb, Dec. 31, 2008


...Meanwhile, California-based real estate investment firm Stockbridge Capital Partners LLC has closed its fledgling Chicago office and is looking to sublease the floor it was to move into at Hines Interests L.P.’s new tower at 300 N. LaSalle St.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 31, 2008, 7:31 PM
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^Certainly won't affect 300 N. much at this point (obviously), but it doesn't bode well for projects waiting to get off the ground (read: 444 W. Lake).
     
     
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^^ Hines wants to proceed with 444 W. Lake, but cannot obtain financing even though they are half-leased already. They can either find more tenants, which may take awhile, or put more of their own equity into the project and reduce the size of the loan (also an unattractive option). I remain hopeful that Hines and the lenders can negotiate a deal. Hines is one of the largest office developers in the country and has the experience to manage 444 W. Lake successfully.
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^ Or VE the living hell out of it to decrease LTV. [Gulp]
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^ THE COLORS, DUKE, THE COLORS!!!!11!!!

I still don't know if that's an alley or a street. I see a couple of trees? And is that 161 W Kinzie on the left?
     
     
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^ THE COLORS, DUKE, THE COLORS!!!!11!!!

I still don't know if that's an alley or a street. I see a couple of trees? And is that 161 W Kinzie on the left?
Yes that is 161 W Kinzie on the left, the Mechandise Mart is directly behind, and the El station (Mechandise Mart) directly above (where Shawn;s shot is from). You are looking down lower Carol st, a street, with a rail line, slated to be used for the loop circulator system sometime in the distant future. Currently one of the many ad-hoc parking lots for the Valet services. This is the line that in the recent past served the Sun Times printing plant (where Trump Tower now sits ) and earlier went all the way down to the Odgen slip, where the Spire site is.
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Old Posted Jan 2, 2009, 4:18 AM
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I love this tower. Great images from jc5680 & chicago shawn, incredible perspectives. harryc, amazing shots, behind the scenes. Thanks for the lower carol st history lesson. very cool. Keep it up guys!
     
     
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Yes that is 161 W Kinzie on the left, the Mechandise Mart is directly behind, and the El station (Mechandise Mart) directly above (where Shawn;s shot is from). You are looking down lower Carol st, a street, with a rail line, slated to be used for the loop circulator system sometime in the distant future. Currently one of the many ad-hoc parking lots for the Valet services. This is the line that in the recent past served the Sun Times printing plant (where Trump Tower now sits ) and earlier went all the way down to the Odgen slip, where the Spire site is.
Thanks for the thorough explanation, harryc.
     
     
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Really nice images up there, harryc.
     
     
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^ THE COLORS, DUKE, THE COLORS!!!!11!!!

I still don't know if that's an alley or a street. I see a couple of trees? And is that 161 W Kinzie on the left?
A little bit of history for you:

A Hidden Gem: Carroll Avenue
http://www.mannresearch.com/lakewood/carroll.html

Afternoon Train on Carroll Avenue
http://www.mannresearch.com/lakewood/carroll2.html
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Yes that is 161 W Kinzie on the left, the Mechandise Mart is directly behind, and the El station (Mechandise Mart) directly above (where Shawn;s shot is from).
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Anyone know if the CTA is even thinking about creating an additional entrance for the Merchandise Mart stop that isn't actually IN the Merchandise Mart? A joint project with the City to create a small plaza over Carroll Avenue next to Wells from which could be a second entrance would probably be a nice addition of outdoor space for office workers on a summer day and and a secondary entrance/exit for 161 and 300, not to mention the other new office and residential buildings in the area. At the very least, I wish the CTA would convert the auxillary exits on the north side of Kinzie to high-barrier entrances. I know people would use them off-hours despite their height, but a full-blown second entrance over Carroll would probably be even more used.
     
     
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why is it this building always looks better from the north? i don't get it.
     
     
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^^ At Chicago's latitude, direct sunlight never comes from the north.
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