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Crane Operators: How Do They Get Up There

By Eric Richardson

Published: Friday, December 12, 2008, at 12:25PM


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This crane, on the west side of the 54-story Ritz tower at L.A. Live, is connected to the building around the 42nd floor.



DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES — Back in 2006, the Downtown News profiled Jim Allen, operator of L.A. Live's Tower Crane One. The article told of his daily 288 foot climb up 22 stories of stairs.

So now that the tower crane is fifty-something stories, does Allen still have to climb that whole way?

No.

Peering intently from the ground, one might just make out the walkway that connects the crane to the just topped-off tower. The current walkway sits around the 42nd floor, meaning that the crane operator only has to climb the last fifteen or so stories after a ride up the construction elevator.

Speaking of that elevator: The ones in use at L.A. Live are special high-speed, high-capacity elevators making their first appearance in the United States. They make it more efficient to get the several thousand member crew up and down the building each day. Rated capacity on one of the roughly dozen foot long, six foot wide elevator cars? 40 people.
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It doesn't seem that long ago when I believed it wasn't asking or expecting too much for the Grand ave proj to breakground by no later than Dec 2008. Or for the park 5th tower to be under construction by no later than early 2009. Now even those dates look waaaay too optimistic.

I've seen a few ppl complain when a new apt or condo proj in DT is wood framed & no more than 5 floors, instead of a steel or concrete tower of at least 10, 15 to 30 plus stories. But since highrises cost more $$ to build, & since to pencil out they therefore need a higher minimum PSF sales or rental price than lowrise bldgs----& since ppl no longer are willing to buy condos priced at pre 2008 levels----is the next new tower to rise in the hood yrs & yrs off into the future?

So the only things to look forward to in 2009 is the completion of lowrise wood framed bldgs like the apt proj on San pedro St in Little tokyo, ongoing work on the Medallion in the OBD, & the response from buyers or renters to the completion of the Concerto & 717 9th St towers.

Brockman Condos Go Rental

Change, Blamed on Economy, Comes as Downtown Apartment Occupancy Plummets by 11%

by Anna Scott

DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES - The developer of the long-awaited Brockman Building, recently completed after years of delays, has switched the project's for-sale units to rentals. The move came after some prospective buyers were unable to secure loans due to the current financial market.

"We were just at the point where we realized that with the real estate market where it's at, with the liquidity markets where they are, trying to sell units is not beneficial," said Norman Salter, chairman of developer West Millennium Group, which originally aimed to open the $35 million project in 2005

The development team made the decision to go rental about a month ago, said Salter. Units have not begun leasing yet, but Salter expects them to generate significant interest. "For this rental market, they should be a hot item because we've got condo specs and this is an above-average unit for a renter," he said.

Despite the condominium-like amenities, the Brockman arrives at a suddenly tough time for apartments. The Downtown rental occupancy rate has plummeted from 96% in September 2007 to a current 85%, "which is very low," said Dolores Conway, director of USC's Casden Real Estate Economics Forecast. By comparison, Downtown occupancy dropped a seemingly small but still significant 2.7%, from 98.7% to 96%, between September 2006 and September 2007, Conway said.

The recent, dramatic fall has been driven by the high number of Downtown Los Angeles apartments that have come online recently, said Conway. At least 10 new rental projects have added more than 1,700 units to the Downtown market in 2008. The new arrivals include those always planned as rental complexes, such as the Belmont Station Apartments in City West, and developments originally envisioned as condominiums that changed when the market soured, like the Brockman and the Union Lofts on Hill Street.

Conway noted that other statistics reflect a softening rental market. She said that the Downtown area has seen 5,400 move-outs in the past year, "reflecting very weak demand."

"I think we're starting to see some rent sensitivity on the part of the Downtown population," said Conway. "We're starting to see people double up in apartments. Also, as people get laid off they may move to cheaper areas."

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At 530 W. Seventh St., the Brockman stands a stately 12 stories. The restored 1921 structure is decked out with a marble and brick faade, cornices and other Beaux Arts flourishes. In mid-September, approximately half of the building's 80 units, which range from 850-2,280 square feet, were either reserved or had been sold to all-cash buyers. In the following weeks, however, about half of the prospective buyers were unable to secure financing. Ultimately, the number of people able to close escrow fell below the pre-closing requirements.

"In order to close escrow on any unit, you have to have a certain number of escrows ready to close," said project spokeswoman April Fissell. "We're going to go lease and when it makes sense, then we'll become a for-sale property again."

Rents have not been finalized yet, she said, but will run approximately $2.25 per square foot. Those who previously reserved or purchased units, and who remain in the building as renters, will have the first option to buy their residences when the property reverts to condominiums. So far five former prospective buyers have remained as renters, Fissell said.

The all-cash buyers have had their money refunded, said Fissell. One of them, economist Katie Galley, purchased an $850,000, 1,300-square-foot unit at the Brockman earlier this year. Last week, she said via email that she was disappointed by the turn of events and has since bought a loft in the Eastern Columbia building on Broadway and Ninth Street.

Despite losing most of the building's buyers, Salter said he expects the Brockman's condo-quality finishes and historic elements to attract a healthy slice of the rental market. "Just the overall look of the units, with the exposed brick and the concrete refurbished to the old style of the building, there's a wow factor," he said.

The Brockman faces competition from other historic properties planned as condominiums but forced to lease. In May, the developers of the Chapman Flats at Eighth Street and Broadway announced that the 168-unit property would open as rentals after several buyers were unable to close escrow. Like the Brockman, the building offers high-end appliances and original structural elements.

Other developers with projects near the Brockman agree that times are tough. "In general, the market is a lot slower than last year," said George Peykar, a partner in the Mandel Lofts at Seventh and Olive streets, which opened in February. While the Mandel is approximately 85% leased, "our occupancy is up because we started leasing it last year," said Peykar. "We started off very strong, and as the market was hit it kind of tapered off. I hope things will change, but I don't see that until 2010."

The Brockman received its certificate of occupancy late last month - it was expected by the end of September, but inspections took longer than planned, Fissell said - and the first renters will move in this week.

In the meantime, work is continuing on the Bottega Louie Restaurant and Gourmet Market on the building's ground floor. The upscale establishment was expected to open in November but has been delayed at least until January, said Salter, because of ventilation challenges and other logistical issues.

As for when the Brockman might revert to a condominium project, "It depends on the market," said Salter. "I'd like it to be two or three years, but it might be as long as five years."

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But since highrises cost more $$ to build, & since to pencil out they therefore need a higher minimum PSF sales or rental price than lowrise bldgs----& since ppl no longer are willing to buy condos priced at pre 2008 levels----is the next new tower to rise in the hood yrs & yrs off into the future?
Keep in mind that DTLA entered the high-rise boom late in the Real Estate Boom(LA Live broke ground in Sep 2005), so it wasn't surprising to see so little development actually start in the area.
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And to add to that, we still had all of those old and beautiful early 20th century buildings that were to be converted into lofts and condos. It would be bad business to build nothing but ground up projects before converting those old buildings.
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One more add on, LA has never been too friendly to dense high rise projects as it is, having regulated developents to the point of making them too expensive and difficult to build. Only last year did they lift that reg for creating higher density and taller structures. This boom came and went, but maybe the next one will have LA riding ahead of the wave instead of behind it.
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^ Sorry Just-In-Cali. I don't mean to be the pessimist (yet once again) but I'll believe that when I see it. As it is, we may just have to wait a decade or more to witness a real estate up tick nationally let alone locally. Once things do improve, I hope you're right, but based on past performance I'm not holding my breath, regardless of said lifted regulation.
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^Well downtowner, you can play the pessimist, we need some of those for balance. (Though some need to be medicated, as having that much hatred causes ulcers and a severe lack in people who wanna talk to them)
Actually I was simply saying that the city has been very slow in making progress, as evidenced by them just NOW rolling back the density rules. Basically, its not going to happen now...so we can only see what will occur in the next upswing in the markets...barring THE BIG ONE happening and LA being submerged and turned into the newest man made reef...though Im sure some here would love that to happen. LOL
Even then traffic would be ridiculous.
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Okay guys, I finally went to LA Live last Friday.

My Opinion:

Well both I'm both impressed and disapointed. I like Lucky Stikes Bowling (well the lounge I like, very nicely done). I also like the Starbucks design, and all of the bright screens around the complex. We also peaked at the Nokia Club. It looks like a very nice spot to go for a intimate concert. In fact my girlfriend want to see George Clinton in early January. Well I have to pass on that one, and told her she's on her own and to take her aunt.

Now what I was disappointed in was ESPN Zone. At least the game room, and although I'm not into video games I do visit places like this on occasion with family and friends. I was expecting it to be better than GameWorks in downtown Long Beach. Sadly ESPN game room was not impressive and was quite small in comparsion. It didn't even compare to the one in downtown Disney in Anaheim.

I was also disappointed in the steep parking prices. Not only was it expensive at $40 max, none of the establishments validate.
Now for me I don't have a problem coming downtown on public transporation. But this is still LA, and most people outside the area won't visit LA Live with parking prices like that. Why would they when you can get the same thing in your own neighborhood.

Just think I live in downtown Long Beach, I have new movie theaters within walking distance, Yard House (same as LA Live), GameWorks (Same as ESPN), and plenty of Starbucks within walking distance, clubs etc.

If LA Live want to be successful outside of something going on at the Staples and the Convention Center. The better do something about the steep parking rates and offer validation.

Even one of my nephews came down on Friday night. He didn't think he go back at paying the heafty parking fees, on top of the cost of paying video games, plus drinks. He said he felt like he wasted his money on nothing. ESPN didn't offer enough entertainment (game room), and he felt its better going to GameWorks, and or ESPN in Anaheim. He's 29 so most likely his age group would visit these kinds of places more so than me (I'm in my early 40').

Oh BTW I think the public areas could be a bit more inviting for sitting. They have seating outside, but it just doesn't look to me like a place I would enjoy hanging around for a long time.

EDIT: I would like to see the inside of the Conga Room. It hadn't open for the night before we left. I couldn't afford to stay longer than I did at those steep parking prices.
     
     
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I think it was a little over a year ago that I said if everything that's under construction now (adaptive reuse and ground-up) was completed and nothing else was built in the short term (or mid-term if we're unlucky), I'd be satisfied with the neighborhood's progress for the time being.

Keep in mind I've been coming Downtown (Historic Core/Little Tokyo) on a regular basis for 5 years and now I live there.

I'd sure love to see those parking lots in South Park, Civic Center and Fashion District built up something akin to this historic aerial: http://digarc.usc.edu/assetserver/controller/view/search/CHS-41605

But anyway, you've got several hundred more units coming online on Spring Street in the next few months (SB Main, SB Spring, SB Tower, Rowan, Great Republic) with several hundred more recently opened (NCT Lofts, SB Manhattan, SB Lofts) and a couple more almost there (El Dorado, Broadway/Spring Arcade Bldg).

Couple that with the growing restaurant scene catering to these thousands of new residents and consistent upgrades like at the Cecil Hotel and Van Nuys Hotel, and we've formed a nice little community.

Just think of the daunting task we faced ten years ago, five years ago, even three years ago. Now instead of trying to save a sinking ship, Little Tokyo and the Historic Core are active participants in Downtown's revitalization. It's exciting.
     
     
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^ Sorry Just-In-Cali. I don't mean to be the pessimist (yet once again) but I'll believe that when I see it. As it is, we may just have to wait a decade or more to witness a real estate up tick nationally let alone locally. Once things do improve, I hope you're right, but based on past performance I'm not holding my breath, regardless of said lifted regulation.
I know you've made pessimistic views before, but c'mon, doesn't 10 years sound alot? Less than 2% of economists think it will take longer than 2 years to complete the correction. (source: LA Times)

Even when you count that "next big wave of foreclosures" that some are predicting in 2010-2011, thats still less than 5 years since the downturn began.
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Students Offer Ideas for Future of Pico

By Eric Richardson
Published: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, at 09:50AM


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Lisa Herbst presents future possibilities for Pico Boulevard on the AT&T Center on Monday evening.



DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES — Eighty percent of the development rights around Pico Boulevard in South Park remain unbuilt, according to a presentation Monday evening by students from USC's School of Policy, Planning and Development. The session was the result of a project done in the spring, which produced three proposals for a master-planned redevelopment centered on the street.

While South Park has seen a good deal of new development, almost all of it has occurred above Pico. The students' proposals took a wide-ranging look at the neighborhood, considering existing infrastructure and uses while looking at different ideas for the future of the street. The group produced a 120-page report laying out current conditions and the three development proposals.

The Pico Village proposal laid out a mix of uses along the street, with mixed-income housing, a museum and connections to the Metro station on Flower. The Manhattan West proposal focused on density, but set out to avoid typical urban canyons by stepping back building heights. The first thirty feet in from the street would be limited to approximately two stories, with buildings rising to full height back from the street. The Park offered a heavy focus on green space, encouraging multi-family housing in dense but shorter buildings.

South Park Stakeholders Group head Mike Pfeiffer, who helped organize and oversee the project, said that while the proposals may not be buildable as presented, they play an important role in helping to create ideas that might be implemented in the neighborhood. The proposals are the "grains of sand to get the pearl finally to come forward," Pfeiffer said.

At the end of the evening, the students offered suggestions for first steps to move Pico forward. They promoted a focus on infrastructure and public improvements and a reworked approval process that would make development and business growth easier.
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That's an unfortunate name. I do like it when these academic programs focus on local issues.
     
     
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ChrisLA, if you're willing to walk 2-3 blocks to L.A. Live there's plenty of much less expensive/flat rate parking in almost all directions. Further inexpensive still, you could use the Blue Line, while others could use the Red Line, or some other various combinations of public transit. I hear the Subway is running until 3 AM on Fridays and Saturdays through the 27th of December...
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I know you've made pessimistic views before, but c'mon, doesn't 10 years sound alot? Less than 2% of economists think it will take longer than 2 years to complete the correction. (source: LA Times)

Even when you count that "next big wave of foreclosures" that some are predicting in 2010-2011, thats still less than 5 years since the downturn began.
Almost no one foresaw the true nature of the Great Depression either, with many rosy predictions all the way down. How long did that one last again? (Hint: you don't need to answer that question)

The "next big wave of foreclosures" are more like a foregone conclusion than a "prediction" as you called it, what with a wave of ARMs scheduled to reset at the same unemployment rates are, and will continue, to swell. That means more monthly mortgage payments will get more expensive right at a time less Americans will be able to pay at all, let alone afford an increase.

Make no mistake - two years is the unrealistically optimistic prediction here, not vice versa. Don't even get me started on the use of the term "correction."
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ChrisLA, if you're willing to walk 2-3 blocks to L.A. Live there's plenty of much less expensive/flat rate parking in almost all directions. Further inexpensive still, you could use the Blue Line, while others could use the Red Line, or some other various combinations of public transit. I hear the Subway is running until 3 AM on Fridays and Saturdays through the 27th of December...
Oh I'm willing to walk, in fact I love walking, and I don't mind taking the train. The question is, would I be willing to go so far for so things I can find in my own neighborhood?

People like my girlfriend don't want to take the subway. She rather drive and also not have to walk. So guess who will be paying the enormous parking fees? Me (Max $40), plus dinner, and drinks, that can be rather expensive to visit that place.

That is pretty much the case for many men, most of their women won't walk that far, or take the train. No matter how you look at it, this is Los Angeles. Although public transportation getting to LA Live is fairly easy, many Angelenos will want to come in their own car. If parking is too expensive, they won't come at all.

Downtown Long Beach also deals with this same problem. The fairly new movie theater in downtown LB is rarely very busy.

Why is this? Parking fees, and still they validate for 3 hours. Most of my friends in Long Beach would drive over to the suburban Long Beach Town Center before they visit the movie theater downtown, where can be in some cases for them 2 miles away as oppose to 8-10 miles to the town center where parking is free.

LA Live needs to address this IMO, or only the locals in downtown will be visiting. Although there are quite a few residents downtown, its not enough to sustain. As it is now after the newness wears off, you will only see those visiting conventions, and sporting events stopping by.
     
     
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i'm just waiting for prices to continue tumbling down over the next few years. just in time for my noveau-riche ass to start buying up real estate from douche-bags in venice. and they will come down a lot more with the surge of alt-a/option-arm defaults ladowntowner mentioned, happening around 2009-2011. LA will finally be put in its place (price-wise) as the decently cheap coastal town it was before the run-up. i don't see us bottoming until beyond 2013-2014 at the earliest.

cheerleaders unite! c'mon park fifth! c'mon manhattan west! let's go caruso! click your heels three times and repeat after Eli: LA is a global art captial! LA is a global art capital! LA is a global art capital!
     
     
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