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Whether one is for or against either proposal, we still need to allow for a more free exchange of thoughts, not partisan battling back and forth between different ideological, ecological or economic parties.

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i agree wholeheartedly with your comment above...we all have our own biasses (??sp), some of which we are aware of and some of which we are not...keeping a broad and flexible perspective is the key

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Old Posted Dec 11, 2008, 5:26 PM
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I went to the Bike Parking open house last night. The group behind this has some good ideas, including the installation of bike lockers. I would gladly pay to rent such a locker to store my bike as my uptown apartment is too small to comfortably store it.

i'm unfamiliar with this group.....are they lobbying for things such as increased dedicated biking routes on city streets, etc?
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Old Posted Dec 11, 2008, 5:32 PM
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Discovered the announcement at Ecole Millidgeville North School was the Gift of 25 Smart Boards for 14 local schools. Absolutely great news once again that they can come through with some more positive help for the education system. Posting the local news article.

"SAINT JOHN - Canaport LNG presented a gift of 25 SMART Boards to 14 Saint John schools on Tuesday.


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This is the second year in a row that the Irving Oil Ltd. and Respol partnership of Canaport LNG has donated SMART Boards to Saint John schools. Last year they presented 10 boards to schools in East Saint John.
I went to see SJ Theatre Company's (http://www.saintjohntheatrecompany.com/) production of 'Chicago' a few weeks ago, and noticed that LNG was a major sponsor of the production. together with the story above. . . you can say whatever you want about large companies . . . but it is certainly nice to see them getting involved in various & diverse local community projects and events.
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I agree that the bike parking lot would be a fantastic addition to uptown. The more we can do to encourage people to live within the city the better.
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the comments re: i understand that accomodations do need to be worked out, but needing learning facilities in the satellite hospitals for the 3rd and 4th year medical students is a little vague to me - medical students are typically doing clinical (hands on) work / rotations in their 3rd and 4th years...no real "classroom work" per se . . . computer access, some places to study and some small conference rooms with multimedia support would be the bare bone essentials. . .

Has there been any recent talk of the Medical school to be opened in the city?
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Has there been any recent talk of the Medical school to be opened in the city?
in terms of timelines, it's been a bit of a moving target....as far as i understand currently, the first class is due to begin late summer (aug or sept) 2010. . . . it takes 4yr med school + (in general) 2-5 years of residency to train a physician, so the benefits in terms of direct healthcare recruitment from that perspective won't be felt until 2016-2019. . . of course, there are other benefits to training more of our nurses, doctors & affiliated medical fields locally (more students, more teachers, more infrastructure, more research....) i think Kwajo's earlier post alluded to more medically relate buildings going up near UNBSJ.....
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SAINT JOHN - The $661-million capital budget announced Tuesday by provincial Finance Minister Victor Boudreau has a lot of good news for Greater Saint John.

Designed as a stimulus package for tough economic times, it commits money for projects next year in education, transportation, health care, municipal infrastructure, the environment and tourism.

The budget earmarks $21 million for the One Mile House Interchange next year, along with $13 million for the Welsford bypass on Highway 7.

In addition the budget contains a commitment to complete the twinning of Highway 1 from St. Stephen to where it joins the Trans-Canada Highway at River Glade by 2014.


"All of those things are important if we are going to be an energy hub and a transportation hub and an educational hub and a medical hub," Mayor Ivan Court said.
does anyone know what proporation of the total cost of the 1 mile house interchange 21 million represents???

also...not surprising that the highway to the US border is getting some attention...Maine has been beefing up infrastructure in terms of its highways and energy transmission line infrastructure towards our neck of the woods, and the st stephen / calais 3rd crossing all appear to be a coordinated attempt to increase trade, energy distribution, etc to the US northeast...
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in terms of timelines, it's been a bit of a moving target....as far as i understand currently, the first class is due to begin late summer (aug or sept) 2010. . . . it takes 4yr med school + (in general) 2-5 years of residency to train a physician, so the benefits in terms of direct healthcare recruitment from that perspective won't be felt until 2016-2019. . . of course, there are other benefits to training more of our nurses, doctors & affiliated medical fields locally (more students, more teachers, more infrastructure, more research....) i think Kwajo's earlier post alluded to more medically relate buildings going up near UNBSJ.....

The last which I had heard was the the Province was so slow moving that it was beginning to jeopardize the prospect for 2010 as Dalhousie require certain assurances ahead of time. Do you know if this has been resolved?
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The last which I had heard was the the Province was so slow moving that it was beginning to jeopardize the prospect for 2010 as Dalhousie require certain assurances ahead of time. Do you know if this has been resolved?
medical school and residency training programs must met certain training guidelines (the "Accreditation" process)

i know there's been a number of issues flying around regarding this recently . . . saw a recent related story in the TJ. . .
medical students and medical residents (ie., the latter being MD's that have completed medical school, but are training in a residency program) are, to my knowledge, under completely separate rules when it comes to training requirements. . . i'm unsure (and could very well be mistaken!!!), but i do think the recent stories have been concerns more about training environments for certain specialties of residents as oppossed to medical students. . .
either way, the 2010 date is still (to the best of my knowledge) the current planned start date...
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The last which I had heard was the the Province was so slow moving that it was beginning to jeopardize the prospect for 2010 as Dalhousie require certain assurances ahead of time. Do you know if this has been resolved?
I know the problem had to do with the Province not committing funding or a building, both have been resolved for the time being. The last glitch had to do with an issue of having the properly trained medical staff heading the ER and one other unit. The issue had to do with the accreditation requirements set by the College of Physicians. The last I heard was that Dalhousie was going to take care of recruiting the proper physicians.
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i'm unfamiliar with this group.....are they lobbying for things such as increased dedicated biking routes on city streets, etc?
The Bike Parking Plan is being written by a consulting firm hired by the Parking Commission to help identify places for bike racks and lockers in the Uptown, partially so that they can reduce the cost of the new parking structure near Peel Plaza. The parking plan itself will not outline bike routes, just identify where the cycle traffic is/will be and use that information to best identify where the parking infrastructure can be installed. There is however a group within the city working on bike lanes and bike trails called ATSJ (Active Transportation Saint John). You can check out their blog at http://atsj.wordpress.com/, it contains a few maps of proposed lanes/routes, including what they call the "Marsh Line Trail" which will be essentially a portion of the Marsh Creek Restoration Initiative.
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Gazing across the Harbour this afternoon I could see some excavators and other construction equipment over in the lower West side toward the ferry terminal. Now I couldn't get a good view, but from where I was, but it looked very close to the Fort Dufferin site. Does anyone know if this is work starting on those condo towers, or is this un-related construction?

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Gazing across the Harbour this afternoon I could see some excavators and other construction equipment over in the lower West side. Now I couldn't get a good view, but from where I was, but it looked very close to the Fort Dufferin site. Does anyone know if this is work starting on those condo towers, or is this un-related construction?
That would be nice. Maybe it's the securing the seawall prior to construction in the area.

I remember the developer said it may take up to two years to get things going which made me thing they were waiting for some of the energy projects to take shape. If Canaport LNG passes the environmental impact stuff, the next phase could go ahead soon.
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Gazing across the Harbour this afternoon I could see some excavators and other construction equipment over in the lower West side toward the ferry terminal. Now I couldn't get a good view, but from where I was, but it looked very close to the Fort Dufferin site. Does anyone know if this is work starting on those condo towers, or is this un-related construction?
I wonder if it was Blue Rock Court. That's around the same area I think.
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the comments re: i understand that accomodations do need to be worked out, but needing learning facilities in the satellite hospitals for the 3rd and 4th year medical students is a little vague to me - medical students are typically doing clinical (hands on) work / rotations in their 3rd and 4th years...no real "classroom work" per se . . . computer access, some places to study and some small conference rooms with multimedia support would be the bare bone essentials. . .
I'm a physician at the Moncton Hospital. You need to have more than "bare bones" to make this program work. What we are developing here is a distributed medical education program, somewhat similar to what exists at the new Northern Ontario Medical School which is based both in Thunder Bay and Sudbury.

It is true that 3rd and 4th year medical students (clinical clerks) spend the vast majority of their time on the floors but there is also time set aside for rounds (both clinical rounds and formal teaching rounds). In addition, there is also probably at least 10% formal classroom time. In a distributed education model, the lecturer may be in Saint John (or Moncton) but delivering his lecture via teleconferencing to all teaching hospitals in the network. Provisions have to be made so that students, no matter where they are, are able to ask questions during the lecture and be able to get immediate feedback from the lecturer. This usually means a sophisticated two way video teleconferencing system.

We already have facilities like this at the Moncton Hospital because we are already fairly heavily involved in medical education. We have 12 full time family practice residents at our hospital in the Northumberland Family Practice Teaching Program and we usually have about 8-12 other medical students or residents in the hospital at any one time as well. Other hospitals like the Miramichi Hospital may not be so fortunate however so it is important that the playing field be level before the program gets up and running. You can't do this overnight.

Accomodations for the students is extremely important. You might have a clerk do a three month surgery rotation in Fredericton, followed by a one month ophthalmology rotation in Saint John, followed by two months of emergency medicine in Moncton and one month of psychiatry in Miramichi. It can be a very itinerant lifestyle (I know). You need to have ready-made accomodations for the students. They can't be living in motels. The accomodations have to be up and running beforehand and this is a strict requirement for accreditation. There is a new student apartment building being constructed near the Moncton Hospital right now because the existing accomodations were found to be substandard.

It will also take time to acquire the medical human resources to staff this program. Take my word for it, the physicians in this province are too overwhelmed with work right now to take on this project without additional manpower. You can't amass the specialist teaching personnel to make this project work overnight. The devil is in the details and careful planning and recruitment is mandatory.

Bottom line, you don't want a rinky-dink program done on the cheap which quickly develops a poor reputation. You want a quality program able to attract top calibre teachers and students. We are talking about a medical school here! This should be something to be proud of.

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Thanks for your post MonctonRab, I'm sure I am not the only one that appreciates your inside knowledge of this field. I can't comment on much of your post directly, but I belive I can on this portion:

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The accomodations have to be up and running beforehand and this is a strict requirement for accreditation. There is a new student apartment building being constructed near the Moncton Hospital right now because the existing accomodations were found to be substandard.
This is a great point, and luckily for both UNBSJ and the Regional Hospital, there is a very large housing/condo development underway directly across University Avenue from the hospital, as well as numerous other housing projects in the Millidgeville area of town. I'm sure that at least one of these project developers is looking at the new medical school as an opportunity to make a great return on their investment, so hopefully we've got the student housing situation under control somewhat.

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Bottom line, you don't want a rinky-dink program done on the cheap which quickly develops a poor reputation. You want a quality program able to attract top calibre teachers and students. We are talking about a medical school here! This should be something to be proud of.
This is a mantra that I wish all New Brunswick initiatives would take more seriously. We need to start building infrastructure and programs that we can be proud of and that will build a better reputation for the province at home and abroad. Let's stop focusing on the nickels and dimes, and start assembling a top echelon place to live and work. We especially need to work on our municipal rivalries too. Do you think that someone from New York is going to care whether it is Saint John or Moncton that has a world class casino, or cruise ship destination, or medical research centre? No, they're going to think of it as being in New Brunswick, and that is going to benefit everyone from Bathurst to St. Stephen.
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I read that UNBSJ can expect higher operating grants in upcoming years. I wonder if this will help the campus in its quest to gain greater legitimacy.
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What is the Latest re COSTCO in Saint John?

Can anyone advise the status of the COSTCO in Saint John? Haven't heard much since the flurry earle=ier in the year. Is it still moving ahead?
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The last I heard was about a month ago, I believe from News 889 that the COSTCO deal was signed sealed and delivered.
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Federal Finance Minister updated Canada's economic forecast in Saint John

December 12, 2008
By: Terri Wallace News 88.9 Staff

SAINT JOHN - Jim Flaherty was in the city launching his pre-budget consultations.

He said Canada is better positioned than any other country in the world to cope with the global economic crisis.

In a speech to the Saint John Board of Trade, Flaherty talked about Canada's position and talked about what the federal government is doing to deal with the downturn.

He said thoughtful consideration is imporant and he talked about the upcoming budget.

The minister warns dealing with the economic downturn `is not a sprint' and dealing with sharp drops in commodity prices and volatility in financial markets requires consultation from both the federal and provincial governments.
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