Canada Line | Completed

[crazyjoeda]

Originally Posted by raggedy13

I think it falls under the definition of mural... not a big deal though. I just decided to look it up because I wasn't sure myself.

mu·ral

1. a large picture painted or affixed directly on a wall or ceiling.

2. a greatly enlarged photograph attached directly to a wall.

3. a wallpaper pattern representing a landscape or the like, often with very widely spaced repeats so as to produce the effect of a mural painting on a wall of average size; a trompe l'oeil.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mural

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I think it would be interesting to have a photograph along the same lines as that grave one but instead have an image that depicts what it would look like to look up if you were standing on the street directly above where that mural is installed... so like looking up the sides of whatever Vancouver buildings are above the station. But then again you could just walk outside the station and see the real thing...

Well I learned something new. I like your idea that would be so cool to have a large photo installed inside the station looking up as though there were no ceiling.

[SpongeG]

train as seen at oakridge



http://www.canadaline.ca/uploads/NewsReleases/News649.PDF

[raggedy13]

I'm really interested in seeing how much the Delta/Surrey/White Rock buses will add to the Canada Line in terms of capacity. In my mind they're a bit of a wild card.

[AKA-007]

^ I had no idea the trains were actually running in the cambie corridor. I thought that it was just sea island as a tester route because the north end of cambie is still uncovered at the stations.

[Metro-One]

Seeing how testing is now at this level and how far along the underground stations are, i would not be surprised at all if the system is ready for August 1st.

[giallo]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

Canada Line’s foreign workers faced discrimination: tribunal

The B.C. Human Rights Tribunal has ruled that temporary foreign workers who helped build the underground tunnel in Vancouver for the Canada Line were discriminated against by their employers.

In a 218-page ruling issued today (December 3), a tribunal panel states that the complaint filed on behalf of the mostly Latin American workers by Local 1611 of the Construction and Specialized Workers’ Union was “justified”.

“We conclude that CSWU has established that members of the Complainant Group were discriminated against by the Respondents on the grounds of race, colour, ancestry and place of origin”, the ruling states.

Named respondents in the case were SELI Canada Inc., a subsidiary of the Rome, Italy-based SELI SPA; SNC Lavalin Constructors (Pacific) Inc., a subsidiary of SNC Lavalin Canada Inc.; and SNCP-SELI Joint Venture, which is the tie-up company responsible for the tunnel part of the Canada Line project.

As the panel summarized, there were four aspects of the complaint.

First, the Latin Americans were paid less than Europeans employed to do the same work.

Second, the workers were housed in inferior accommodations compared to most of the Europeans.

Third, the Latin Americans were a given different meal arrangement.

Lastly, the Latin Americans were given expense arrangements less favourable than those for the European workers.

The panel ordered the respondents to pay the complainants the differences between the salaries and expenses paid to them and those that were paid to their European counterparts.

The panel also ordered the respondents to pay the Latin American workers $10,000 each as “compensation for injury to dignity”.

http://www.straight.com/article-173335/canada-lines-foreign-workers-faced-discrimination-tribunal

Wow. This kind of thing happens a lot in East Asia, but I never would have expected it to happen in Canada. The outcome of the tribunal is encouraging.

[DKaz]

There are 8 bus routes feeding from those locations at the moment... at 4 buses an hour for each and say there are 40 passengers on each bus, 1280 PPPHD assuming no increase in passengers from today's levels. That's an average of 85 people per train from Bridgeport. Standing room only for sure from that point.

Translink is planning to increase the frequencies on these routes right? I wonder how many more will switch over to transit.

[sacrifice333]

Originally Posted by DKaz

Translink is planning to increase the frequencies on these routes right? I wonder how many more will switch over to transit.

I believe they are increasing the frequency of the routes once the trains are running.

Transit use should also increase as the dedicated bus lane to Bridgeport is completed as this will cut down the time to the station.

[Whalleyboy]

Originally Posted by raggedy13

I'm really interested in seeing how much the Delta/Surrey/White Rock buses will add to the Canada Line in terms of capacity. In my mind they're a bit of a wild card.

i want to see them add a b-line from king george or central to some where on the c-line

[wrenegade]

This is what Human Rights tribunals are for. Not garbage free-speech issues. Sucks to have happened though.

[quobobo]

Originally Posted by awvan

This is what Human Rights tribunals are for. Not garbage free-speech issues. Sucks to have happened though.

What? Assuming the compensation was explicitly stated in the two groups' contracts, this is just as bad as the free speech issues. One group agreed to be paid a certain amount for their work, and another group agreed to be paid more for their work. Just because the two groups are of different nationalities doesn't make that wrong.

How about car manufacturers that pay their Mexican factory workers less than their North American counterparts (because the Mexicans are willing to work for less)? Is that wrong?

[officedweller]

The saving grace in the morning rush will be that every second northbound train arriving at Bridgeport will be coming from YVR - practically empty.

[zivan56]

^^ No, because they are not doing the same job at the same location. The only reason they would get a factory there would be if they had cheaper wages (which they do), so it is not discrimination.

[twoNeurons]

Lest we forget...

when most subways were built, they were built to accommodate dated train operations. It was almost impossible to run a 2-minute schedule with drivers due to the lack of automation. This necessitated longer trains (and platforms).

If I'm not mistaken, SkyTrain was one of the first metro systems to use ATC (Moving Block).

The Expo Line's capacity can be increased quite easily. Increase the length of the trains. Most trains are 4-car trains or 2-car MKIIs. This keeps the frequency up but trains shorter. We could likely add at least 50% capacity just by building to the ends of the current platform.

Take out some seating and it's increased even more.

Longer stations would've required deeper stations, more tunneling, and a higher cost. Rather than whine about what we got, why not wait and see how it fares?

[quobobo]

Originally Posted by zivan56

^^ No, because they are not doing the same job at the same location. The only reason they would get a factory there would be if they had cheaper wages (which they do), so it is not discrimination.

I agree, it isn't wrong - some people are willing to work for less than others and that's just a fact of life. But why does being at the same location makes a difference?

Say I need 20 people to do a job. I'm able to find 10 people who are willing to do the job for $10, and another 10 who will do the job for $12.

I think we'd all agree that there's no problem with paying the first group $10 and the second group $12. Why does that suddenly change if the groups' nationalities are different?

[phesto]

Noticed last night that the northbound lanes of Cambie had reopened north of 12th. No more bottleneck!

[deasine]

Originally Posted by tintinium

Lest we forget...

when most subways were built, they were built to accommodate dated train operations. It was almost impossible to run a 2-minute schedule with drivers due to the lack of automation. This necessitated longer trains (and platforms).

If I'm not mistaken, SkyTrain was one of the first metro systems to use ATC (Moving Block).

The Expo Line's capacity can be increased quite easily. Increase the length of the trains. Most trains are 4-car trains or 2-car MKIIs. This keeps the frequency up but trains shorter. We could likely add at least 50% capacity just by building to the ends of the current platform.

Take out some seating and it's increased even more.

Longer stations would've required deeper stations, more tunneling, and a higher cost. Rather than whine about what we got, why not wait and see how it fares?

Thank you. Someone with the right logic.

[Metro-One]

Canada Line’s foreign workers faced discrimination: tribunal

Personally for me i need to know a lot more about this situation to make a sound judgement then what has been posted

For example, when they state that they were given a different meal arrangement, this could simply mean that the Latin menu consisted of more Latin ethnic dishes while the European menu consisted of more European ethnic dishes. Realizing that this could now benefit them in a human rights tribunal, they can spin this issue into calling it discrimination.

This is why i hate short simple stories where people make snap judgements. Sometimes there is a very real discrimination issue happening, but other times it is people abusing the system, and more often then not it is a gray area between the two.

[Login650]

These pics might interest you - from a tunnel tour I was on earlier this week of the Broadway - Yaletown stretch:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/88364173@N00/sets/72157610684810854/

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by Login650

These pics might interest you - from a tunnel tour I was on earlier this week of the Broadway - Yaletown stretch:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/88364173@N00/sets/72157610684810854/

thanks for the pictures