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Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 7:38 PM
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The term "world class city" is always brought up by the local media, and I always laugh whenever I hear it. Vancouver does have a lot going for its size, but business is definitely not one of them. Where is Western Canada's economic capital? Definitely not Vancouver, That title has been usurped by Calgary. Vancouver is a port city, and is pretty much the Copenhagen of Canada... just much more conservative. Until Vancouver actually does something world renown or innovative, cuts red tape and taxes, it will continue to be a second class port city.
     
     
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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:18:25 PM

International food and beverage operator plans to set up shop at YVR

SSP Canada, the Canadian division of a U.K.-based operator of food and beverage brands for airports and train stations, has won four contracts to open restaurants at Vancouver International Airport.

Three new quick-service and one casual dining restaurant will be built by SSP beginning early next year.

The multi-year contracts are expected to generate an estimated US$60 million in revenue and create more than 100 full-time jobs.

SSP has operations in more than 130 airports and 300 rail stations in 31 countries. It operates in more than 42 airports and highway stops across the U.S., Canada and the Caribbean.

It recently won a contract at Winnipeg's international airport.

From the press release - note some of the brands which are likely to show up at YVR:
     
     
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you're article was cut short - what are the brands?
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 10:09 PM
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i found this:

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SSP Canada Strengthens Its Presence with Competitive Contract Wins at Vancouver International Airport (YVR)
SSP's expansion of food and beverage services at YVR expected to bring more than 100 full-time jobs and an estimated US$60 million in revenue to Vancouver economy

Last update: 10:01 a.m. EST Nov. 19, 2008

LANSDOWNE, Va., Nov 19, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- SSP Canada, the Canadian division of SSP, the leading operator of food and beverage brands in travel locations worldwide, announced today that it has won a 7-year contract for 3 quick service restaurants and an 8-year contract for a casual dining restaurant at Canada's second busiest airport, Vancouver International Airport (YVR). The contracts are expected to generate an estimated US$60 million in revenue and create more than 100 full-time jobs.
Graham Clarke, Chair, Vancouver Airport Authority Board of Directors, said, "YVR's goal to continue to develop as a premier global gateway, made the selection of SSP, the leading operator of food and beverage internationally, a natural partnership. We are confident that SSP's experience and passion for food will provide the millions of travellers flying through Vancouver with an exceptional range of quality options."

"We are pleased to bolster SSP's growing presence and competitive position in the Canadian market with such an internationally recognized airport as Vancouver," said Pat Murray, Senior Vice President, Business Development for SSP Canada. "Our knowledge of the consumer coupled with our culinary expertise will provide for an outstanding food & beverage program that truly enhances the experience of travellers and reflects the rich culture of Vancouver."
Construction at YVR will begin in early 2009.

This announcement comes on the heels of SSP's lucrative contract win at Winnipeg James Armstrong Richardson International Airport.

About SSP
SSP, the Food Travel Experts, is the leading dedicated operator of food and beverage brands in travel locations worldwide, with operations in more than 130 airports and 300 rail stations in 31 countries. Its unparalleled portfolio of international, national, local, specialty and new breakthrough food and beverage brands includes its own national and international brands. Among these are Caffe Ritazza, Burger King, Marks & Spencer Simply Food, Bonne Journee, Caviar House & Prunier, Pizza Hut, Upper Crust and Le Train Bleu. SSP has operations in airports, train stations, motorways, retail parks and conference centers.

About SSP America (SSP Canada / SSP Caribbean)
SSP America operates in more than 42 airports and motorways across the USA, Canada and the Caribbean. Other third party brands in the broad portfolio include The Palm Restaurant, Einstein Bros. Bagels, Houlihan's, Gordon Biersch, Dunkin' Donuts, Panda Express, Five Guys Burgers and Fries, Chick-fil-A, Moe's Southwest Grill, Peet's Coffee & Tea, T.G.I. Friday's, Carl's Jr. and Buffalo Wild Wings. SSP America's brand portfolio also includes strong local icons such as Laurelwood Public House & Brewery, Bill Bateman's Bistro, Rams Head, Great Dane Pub & Brewing Co., Las Palapas Mexican Cafe, Brew Brothers Brewery and Legends of Aviation.

About Vancouver Airport Authority
The Airport Authority is a community-based, not-for-profit organization that operates Vancouver International Airport (YVR). Canada's second busiest airport, YVR expects to welcome 17.9 million passengers in 2008, and is the Official Airport of the Vancouver 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games. The Airport Authority is undertaking a $1.4-billion capital program that will ensure the airport meets the growing demand for air travel and continues to be developed as a premier global gateway and economic generator for British Columbia.
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 10:14 PM
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What I'd do for a Dunkin' Donuts and Carl's Jr!

We'll probably end up with a Pizza Hut, though
     
     
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Oh man, if they bring Buffalo Wild Wings to YVR, I'll definitely be taking the new Canada Line to the airport for dinner. And finally, some local Buffalo wing competition for Wing Nuts.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 11:21 PM
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Oh man, if they bring Buffalo Wild Wings to YVR, I'll definitely be taking the new Canada Line to the airport for dinner. And finally, some local Buffalo wing competition for Wing Nuts.
Definitely. There's so many fast food chains we are missing out on up here. That list was practically 80% of them!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 20, 2008, 12:14 AM
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It would be virtually impossible to properly supply any chain that is not already here. So it will, unfortunately, definitely be something we are familiar with. Like Pizza Hut
     
     
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i had a friend who went to high school in some hick town in Colorado. He showed them a picture of Vancouver's skyline and they actually thought it was Hong Kong or New York.
I remember traveling to Florida as a child and meeting locals of a similar age who asked me if Canada was somewhere near England.
I also had to inform them that their state capital was Tallahassee.
So when it comes to American awareness of anything, don't expect much...
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2008, 10:16 PM
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i think most in europe and asia would know

again its just kind of locals think vancouver is much bigger and widely known than it is and really its not that big and important as locals want to believe it might be

and meeting people from elsewhere and travelling reminds you of it

not that its a bad thing
A friend of mine from the UK, who's originally from BC, recently came to Van to visit with a friend who's actually British and she was so surprised that Vancouver was only 2.5 mil and thought it was way bigger than Toronto. That the impression her and her friends had haha
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2008, 5:29 AM
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wehn i was in england in grade 9 we went to a school for one day - one of my schools teachers was on an exchange thing so we went to see what it was like to attend school

anyway a few girls asked us if we knew michael J fox - lol (it was 1986)

cause they thought canada must be so small that we would know him
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YVR-Whistler Express ceases operations

Whistler – Perimeter Transportation this week abruptly ceased operating its long-running shuttle service between Vancouver International Airport (YVR) and Whistler.



In a terse notice posted on the company’s website, Perimeter officials wrote, “Perimeter regrets to announce that we will cease operation of the Whistler Express service between Whistler and Vancouver Airport effective end of day Friday, Nov. 21.”



The notice went on to say that the company, which also has operations in the Vancouver area, would continue to operate charter service and lease out its vans, mini-coaches and full-sized buses.



The reasons behind the move aren’t clear. Telephone messages left with company officials, including President Mike Cafferky, were not returned.



However, a Perimeter driver, who said he was served his layoff notice earlier in the week, said his understanding is that a B.C. Supreme Court ruling in a legal dispute involving Perimeter and YVR had gone against the company, forcing it to shut down the service. He could not provide specifics about the case.



Jason Bechard also said he believed the company employed 15 full-time and “eight or 10” part-time drivers on the service, most of them living in either Whistler or Squamish. He said that while some may have been surprised by the news, he and a few others were not.



“Those of us that followed the court dealings kind of expected it. For a lot of us, the whole process seemed to accelerate really fast,” Bechard said.



“I enjoyed the job,” said Bechard, who drove for Perimeter for the past three summers. “We had a chance to interact with customers, tell stories about local politics, sights, area history, for the two hours that we were with them.”



Perimeter has operated the service in the corridor for 25 years. In October 2007, however, YVR officials announced that they had chosen a rival company, Pacific Coach Lines (PCL), as the official carrier between the two destinations.



Operating from a different location at YVR, however, Perimeter continued to operate the Whistler service. Its most recent marketing materials stated that Perimeter planned to kick off its winter service between YVR and Whistler on Dec. 13 with 11 northbound and 10 southbound shuttles per day.



About a year ago, Perimeter shuttle buses began doing regular pick-ups and drop-offs at the Squamish Adventure Centre, with service between Squamish and YVR.

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Here's the reasons for judgement in the BC Supreme Court (these are public documents) in Perimeter Transportation Ltd. v. Vancouver International Airport Authority.

http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/sc/08/15/2008bcsc1515.htm

http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/sc/07/11/2007bcsc1121.htm

It's a dispute over right of access access to the airport terminals - Perimeter argued that the airport is a public utility and must provide equal access to all transportation. The judgment goes against Perimeter. Perimeter has been operating after the expiry of it's license to operate into YVR without paying the required fees - seems the bus company now owes YVR over $600,000 in fees.

BTW - this is why you pay $5 more for a bus from the ferry to the airport than you do to Vancouver. My personal opinion is that the airport is being greedy and not recognizing the need for bus ground transportation to the airport - the fees get passed on to passengers and I think the days of air travellers having lots of money are well and truly gone. Public transit is exempt from license requirements under Provincial legislation (which is why BC Transit and Translink can run inter-city bus services without the need for license hearings).
     
     
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Thumbs up You got it, exactly !

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The term "world class city" is always brought up by the local media, and I always laugh whenever I hear it. Vancouver does have a lot going for its size, but business is definitely not one of them. Where is Western Canada's economic capital? Definitely not Vancouver, That title has been usurped by Calgary. Vancouver is a port city, and is pretty much the Copenhagen of Canada... just much more conservative. Until Vancouver actually does something world renown or innovative, cuts red tape and taxes, it will continue to be a second class port city.
That's EXACTLY what Vancouver is! Nickinaca undertsands why there are no direct flights from Vancouver to Paris, Zurich, Rome, Copenhagen, or to Tahiti, Melbourne - even though we do have Sydney and Auckland. There is no scheduled sevice to Guadalajara or Puerto Vallarta, or Mazatlan, except for winter charters. Dubai, the "New Hong Kong" of the world, has its airline, Emirates flying not only to Toronto, but even to Manchester England, with Seattle coming up soon. Vancouver? Forget it? Calgary, Edmonton, and possibly SanFrancisco are Vancouver's version of "cosmopolitan! There you have it. Bushwackville on the Fraser!
     
     
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That's EXACTLY what Vancouver is! Nickinaca undertsands why there are no direct flights from Vancouver to Paris, Zurich, Rome, Copenhagen, or to Tahiti, Melbourne - even though we do have Sydney and Auckland. There is no scheduled sevice to Guadalajara or Puerto Vallarta, or Mazatlan, except for winter charters. Dubai, the "New Hong Kong" of the world, has its airline, Emirates flying not only to Toronto, but even to Manchester England, with Seattle coming up soon. Vancouver? Forget it? Calgary, Edmonton, and possibly SanFrancisco are Vancouver's version of "cosmopolitan! There you have it. Bushwackville on the Fraser!
I'm not a blind Vancouver booster, but I think you're being unnecessarily down without stating all the facts. Emirates and Etihad have mentioned they would like to fly to Vancouver. However, they are currently not allowed to by the Canadian government. Singapore Airlines would like to increase frequency. Again, they are not allowed to. Korean Airlines has stated they would like to increase frequency while Asiana has stated a desire to fly to YVR. This only recently became possible with the new open skies agreement between Canada and Korea. Air France wanted to fly from Paris but could not due to the regulatory regime -- and ended up flying to Seattle instead. You get the idea.

In fact, I would argue that the current air transport regulatory regime unnecessarily favors Toronto and Montreal over Vancouver -- and this is a big factor in limiting the number of flights to YVR.
     
     
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yes Canada needs to protect its own crappy airline

not allowed to offer Canadians choice
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I'm not a blind Vancouver booster, but I think you're being unnecessarily down without stating all the facts. Emirates and Etihad have mentioned they would like to fly to Vancouver. However, they are currently not allowed to by the Canadian government. Singapore Airlines would like to increase frequency. Again, they are not allowed to. Korean Airlines has stated they would like to increase frequency while Asiana has stated a desire to fly to YVR. This only recently became possible with the new open skies agreement between Canada and Korea. Air France wanted to fly from Paris but could not due to the regulatory regime -- and ended up flying to Seattle instead. You get the idea.

In fact, I would argue that the current air transport regulatory regime unnecessarily favors Toronto and Montreal over Vancouver -- and this is a big factor in limiting the number of flights to YVR.
Very true. YVR upgraded and expanded their facilities to become the western gateway for Air Canada and Canada in general... then Air Canada decided to change their minds and make Toronto the gateway for everything (Terminal 1 at Pearson is Air Canada only.. surprise, surprise) after the expansion. Obviously Air Canada and the Federal Government are in bed with each other.

FYI, my original comment was not meant to be anti-Vancouver in any way, it is just my observations when comparing it to many other cities that I have travelled to. The city (And region for that matter) really need to stop resting on their laurels and become an innovative city, rather than a "me too" city.
     
     
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Exclamation That's exactly it

YES. Due to the fact that the voter base is in Eastern Canada, Ottawa's bilateral regulations favour everything going in and out of Montreal and Toronto - at the expense of other Canadian cities, especially the major Western hub, Vancouver. Of course, under the "Blue Sky" agreement currently underway between Ottawa and the European Union, which also includes opening up trade and labour market exchange laws, this will change things to a large degree. It is also importanto to remember that much as Vancouver may seem like a busting-at-the seams boom town ready to take on the world, it is really relatively small by world standards at just over 2 million people. Nonetheless, it is being deprived of a number of major European destinations, themost important one being Paris, due to Ottawa's limitations. That, ladies & gentlemen, is why one has to change in Toronto for ANY destination in Europe other than London, Amsterdam, or Frankfurt. An with The Transport Minister, Mr. Lawrence Cannon, representing Ottawa-Gatineau, things are not going to change much until a major trade and "open skies" type of deal is made, which may take another two years. (Look how Seattle has benefitted from the US-Europe agreement, and how they're overtaking Vancouver, even though Seattle is not the principal US West Coast city) In the meantime, as the author says, we have to stop resting on our laurels. Vancouver needs to expand and enlarge its economy to put it squarely on the world map. Only then will airlines such as Emirates, Air France, and others begin to push hard for landing rights here, and only then will we become a truly "international" city, instead of a regional city with international pretensions. And only then will YVR take its place among major airports of the world. If you want statistics, look at the number of passengers handled yearly at Vancouver (approximately 17 million at best) compared to Seattle (29 million). That says a great deal, right there. With a population 40 percent bigger than Vancouver, Seattle handles nearly twice as many passengers, and has several airlines knocking at the door for landing rights, including Emirates. Vancouver has got to grow, diversify, and push harder. Then and only then will we get the air connections we deserve and need. The Hon. Lawrence Cannon is unlikely to have our interests in mind, but we can't rest on our laurels either.
     
     
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The brunt of Seattle airport's business is domestic their domestic population is roughly 10times the size of Canada's Sea tac is also home to the 7th or 8th largest airline in the U.S. Alaska Airlines

YVR is still the 3rd Asian hub on the West Coast.
     
     
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Smile That's very true. However ..........

Thank you for the perspective on Seattle's air traffic statistics versus Vancouver's. What you say puts things very much into a different perspective, and I appreciate that. However, although Vancouver is indeed a major ASIAN gateway, its European connections are severely limited. Sure, it has London Heathrow, Amsterdam, and Frankfurt all year round. Bit what about Paris? It would be, according to one YVR marketing official, possibly the second-largest European destination after Heathrow, more important than Amsterdam or Frankfurt. And there is a large Italian population in Vancouver. Is there a direct, no-change-of-plane service to Rome? Not on your sweet life. Is there anything to Southern Europe at all? Only summer charters. Regarding Emirates, they want to land here, but the federal government only allows them to land in Toronto. Please remember, there's more to being an international gateway than having trans-Pacific flights to Asia.: Our European connections, especially to Paris Charles-de-Gaulle (the most "connected" airport in Europe) should be sriously addressed. The travelling public want it. YVR officials want it. But the federal government won't allow it. § Their voting base is back east, and that's who they cater to. It's as simple as that.
     
     
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