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Old Posted Oct 28, 2008, 7:09 PM
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^^ quote from Jeff Kovel from Portland Spaces:
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Our goal, in the end, was to develop the site to a higher use and push Skylab into new territory. We suddenly realized that if we took it down to 9:1 FAR and eliminated parking, we could cut the price in half. It went from like $315/square foot to $175 and suddenly we had a project. And it’s a scale that’s very palatable.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2008, 5:06 AM
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that makes sense for them to make that kind of move, especially when it drops costs by that much. Plus, this site is a tiny site so a 9 story building will stand out on it. Also on this same block, there is a quarter block parking lot waiting to be developed, so something taller could still come to that block at a later date when the economy is doing better.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2008, 4:30 PM
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Exactly.

Personally, I would rather have more scaled infill in the urban core than mammoth tours that only look good from a distance. Skyscrapers are nice, but they do not in and of themselves represent great architecture. Some of the best buildings in the world are only several stories tall. Most of us, after all, experience our city from the vantage point of the street. If developers can build for $175 per square foot by omitting height and parking, they should be applauded. The worst thing that could possible happen in Portland would be the creation of a second Vancouver, BC.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2008, 6:04 PM
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^Indeed, this is why Europe has some of the best walking cities in the world. a dense core of buildings only several stories high which creates light corridors and pleasant spaces for open air cafes and restaurants.

We would be oh so lucky if we created a similar downtown and avoided the "look at me" phallic symbols that do little wonders for the people that walk among them.

The city is to be enjoyed from the street not from a distance!
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Not to mention that point towers can inflate real estate values due to the high costs associated with constructing them. Vancouver BC looks pretty, but it's really a failure from an economic standpoint as working people can't afford to live there. It also has done very little to pump money into its infrastructure outside of its picturesque downtown.
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I agree with the above thoughts. Nevertheless, it would be nice to have a "Highrise District" ....SoWa??? Could you imagine heading Northbound on I-5 making that last turn before catching a glimpse of the district & towers averaging 600-800 ft. appearing before your eyes.
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Eventually, over time, an expanded and stronger economy in Portland will allow higher buildings. Its really just a matter of time considering we're on the Pacific Rim.

Diversity in height/scale of projects is really a good thing.
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image boards

I walked by the site the other day and saw the architect laying out his image boards. He was having them posted on the existing building.





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Old Posted Nov 15, 2008, 12:38 AM
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I hope it gets built but the renderings are deceptive.

See the Cyan for what the flashing and overlapping planes will really look like: much more chunky and complicated.

Plus Skylab hasn't done any good exterior details that I've seen yet either...all thin metal panels that oil can. They'd better step it up for this one. Maybe hire someone with experience that knows how to do exterior details to compliment Kovel's vision.
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Yep, I think Skylab has some real creativity and innovation, but execution is a bit of a problem. --The devil is in the details--
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I love the idea, but I'd love to see a recessed balcony or two in the project. It's only 9 floors, so air pressure problems shouldn't be so bad that balcony's would hurt at all.

With the staggered look of the rest of the building, it would be a great way to add to the street life around it.

Walking through Portland on this beautiful fall day, I hated how little outdoor activity many of the Pearl buildings have. There are people inside, yes, but that doesn't add to the active feel.
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Yep, I think Skylab has some real creativity and innovation, but execution is a bit of a problem. --The devil is in the details--
So, I screwed up my reply part, but this building specifically looks nice, but does look like it's had 4 floors cut off.

Yeah, Skylab has done some products I'm not a huge fan of (the Doug Fir, for example, it's nice but seems overrated.) They also have done some great work. I'm still quite excited about Weave, but it looks like it should be cheaper than I'm sure it will be.
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Economy doesn't deter architect

by Brian Libby, special to The Oregonian
Tuesday February 24, 2009, 6:36 PM

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2009/02/economy_doesnt_deter_architect.html

Jeff Kovel has seen the headlines about our tumbling economy. He's noticed the number of construction cranes dotting central Portland have dwindled to scarcely any.

But Kovel, who heads Portland's Skylab Architecture, plans to go forward with a new office building when nearly all others are waiting.

The Weave Building, which Kovel's firm designed and is co-developing, is a 10-story, 50,000-square-foot project on a tiny 5,000-square-foot site on West Burnside Street with offices above ground-floor retail. Kovel says groundbreaking on the Weave, which will include offices and ground-level retail, could begin in as soon as six months.

In a weak economy, "this is a really defining time, and how you respond is important in terms of defining yourself," Kovel said. "We think the building is going to be a landmark along the Burnside corridor."

The Weave is to be built across Burnside from the popular Brewery Blocks development and between two McMenamins outlets: the Crystal Ballroom and Ringler's Annex. It will be just two blocks from Powell's Cityof Books and the streetcar line.

It's one of two buildings -- the others is the 22-story "12th and Washington" residential and office building now under construction -- that will test developers' ability to extend the Pearl District's success into downtown's west end.

Downtown office construction hasn't dried up entirely. Yet the most significant projects -- a 16-story building at Southwest First Avenue and Main Street and a seven- story boutique building on East Burnside at Sixth Avenue -- began before the current economic slide.

"I think the timing's been lucky in that we're a bit behind the recession," said Kovel. "Assuming things will stabilize, we're not sitting on a building completed with no tenants."

Office projects often languish on the drawing board until developers strike a deal with an anchor tenant. But Kovel said the Weave will go forward even without an anchor tenant.

Mark Edlen, managing principal of Gerding Edlen Development, said Kovel has a chance of hitting the right moment in the market cycle.

"Quite often the recession is the best time to start a new business," said Edlen, whose firm developed the Brewery Blocks and is building "12th and Washington."

"That's what Jeff is doing, in the sense that a building is an entity in and of itself. Quite often through tough times, innovation can have more of a chance of moving forward."

Real estate brokers are encouraging but skeptical.

"It's definitely in a creative part of town, so they may attract different types of users than for traditional office space," says Jeff Borlaug, vice president and director of brokerages for the Portland branch of Norris Beggs & Simpson.

"But I also think for tenants looking for more efficient traditional space, they're probably more apt to focus on economics versus moving to a new building in that size range," Borlaug said. "They're talking more to their landlords about extending their leases."

The Weave is designed to meet the U.S. Green Building Council's LEED (Leadership in Energy & Environmental Design) standards, but developers don't intend to focus on the Weave's sustainability credentials in their marketing. Instead, they see the building's unique look, with a bold facade of angular glass and precast concrete panels, as a beacon for creative-industry workers.

As an extension of its marketing, Skylab worked with award-winning Internet design company Second Story to create a Web site for tenants that acts like social networking site such as Facebook to market their work collectively.

Although the Weave is yet to be approved by the city's Design Commission, it received strong encouragement during nonbinding Design Advice Review process. Skylab, which has won numerous design awards for projects such as Doug Fir Lounge on East Burnside Street and the M1 Residence in the West Hills, a private home featured prominently in the popular teen vampire movie "Twilight".

Kovel hopes the Weave will attract plenty of attention.

"My hope is it really becomes an example of somebody who went out on a limb and seized an opportunity to do something special," he said. "I think that type of approach is going to become more and more critical across the board. It's going to be harder to succeed with mediocre product or ideas. The competitive environment will hopefully draw more out of people."

--Brian Libby
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 4:06 PM
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Thanks for the lin - Interesting article. I'm very excited to see that this project has not been canceled due to the economy. This is one of the more daring designs that Portland has seen. Build it!
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 5:35 PM
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I would LOVE to see this building go up in the next 6 months!
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I can't believe the author didn't mention the largest project, PAW. It's not 100% office, but if has a significant office portion.
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Here's more on The Weave project.....hopefully if it's a definite go, this will encourage other projects to continue with their plans and stay on track.

http://www.portlandarchitecture.com/
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Weave Building to be finished in 2010

POSTED: 01:20 PM PST Wednesday, February 25, 2009
BY SAM BENNETT
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Skylab's Weave office building, proposed for Southwest 12th Avenue and West Burnside, at the intersection of Stark, faces the challenge of getting built in a tough economy. Not to mention designing a building for a 5,000-square-foot lot.

But the 10-story building is expected to begin construction in August, according to Skylab. The 50,000-square-foot building will be finished by December 2010.

The contractor is York and Curtis, the structural engineer is Catena Engineering and the civil engineer is KPFF.

It's called the Weave to reflect "a Web of influences on an urban fabric," according to a description provided by Skylab. "In the same way a textile depends not solely on the form of the fibers but also on the structure of the weave, the design premise for the Weave Building begins with the philosophy of community and how living, working and the built environment co-exist."
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The 50,000-square-foot building will be finished by December 2010.
That means they will be done before Bside6 is finished )
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WonderlandPark your sense of humor is appreciated. Indeed the construction of bside6 has taken a bit of time but it will be, in the end, worth the wait.

The Weave building is going to be a welcome addition to the skyline of our fair city. Jeff Kovel is a huge talent (and a nice guy). I have no doubt that he will deliver a beautiful and well considered building.
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