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Old Posted Nov 13, 2008, 9:06 PM
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Fiterman demo in sight as city ends money fight



Rendering of the new Fiterman Hall,
which officials hope will be completed
in 2012, now that the city has agreed
to contribute $72 million for the project.



DOWNTOWN EXPRESS
By Julie Shapiro
Volume 21, Number 26
November 13, 2008

The city agreed this week to pay its share to rebuild Fiterman Hall, a City University of New York building damaged on 9/11, Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver told Downtown Express Wednesday.

After a six-month battle with the state and CUNY, Mayor Michael Bloomberg is expected to announce Thursday morning that the city will pay an additional $72 million for Fiterman Hall, providing the exact match of state funds the project needs to move forward.

"I'm pretty persuasive," joked Silver, who pushed Bloomberg to put up the money.

The black-shrouded Fiterman Hall, a Borough of Manhattan Community College building, has become a symbol of bureaucracy as it casts a shadow on the World Trade Center site more than seven years after 9/11.

"It's been a blight on our community since Sept.11," Silver said. "We need to have the building rebuilt to show the world that we are recovering from Sept.11."

Workers are currently decontaminating the building and expect to finish in February. The building would then be demolished, perhaps as soon as August 2009. Now that all of the funding is in place, construction on the new building will begin immediately following demolition and will be complete in 2012, Silver said.

"We're unbelievably overjoyed by this," said Barry Rosen, director of communications for B.M.C.C., though he confessed he was baffled by the timing."

During this economic atmosphere, how could they do it?" he said. "Where's the mayor coming up with $70 million? All those other years when everything was so great, no one wanted to give us the money, but now, in the middle of a sinking ship…" Rosen trailed off, then resolved not to look too hard into the "why."

"I'm happy," he said. "It's almost a miracle."

The new 14-story Fiterman Hall will house 54 classrooms, along with computer labs, lounges and faculty offices for the rapidly growing B.M.C.C., Rosen said. The extra space will make a big difference for B.M.C.C., as the school has seen enrollment soar since 9/11. B.M.C.C. has had to resort to holding classes in trailers and cramming professors into shared offices at its main building on Chambers St.

"Especially in this time of economic crisis, people are going back to school to acquire skills, and community colleges are the places people are going," Silver said. "We need the space."

The total cost to clean and demolish the old Fiterman Hall and build the new building is $325 million. Until now, the city had only agreed to pay $20 million, while the state had put in more than $90 million. The project also received $60 million from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (money the city tried to claim as part of its own contribution), $62.7 million in insurance funds, $15 million from the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation and $5 million from the 9/11 Fund.

Tired of waiting for the city to come around with the money, CUNY Vice Chancellor Iris Weinshall threatened several months ago to leave Fiterman Hall standing after decontaminating it, even though CUNY had enough money to proceed with the demolition. The idea was to use the building as a large reminder that the city owed CUNY money. That was unpopular with the community, and since the building is not yet ready to be demolished, Weinshall was never in a position to make good on the threat.

Over the past year, the project's completion date has moved further away. Last February, before the dispute over money arose, a contractor on the project said the new building could be complete in 2010. Last June, Weinshall said the goal was to get the building open in 2011, and unless the city provided funding immediately, that would not happen. Now the project's completion has slipped another year to 2012.


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Workers are currently decontaminating the building and expect to finish in February. The building would then be demolished, perhaps as soon as August 2009. Now that all of the funding is in place, construction on the new building will begin immediately following demolition and will be complete in 2012, Silver said.
The end of another sad chapter, and good riddance.
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Imagining this shot from Vitalily P. with the Freedom Tower soaring skyward...

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That last shot is fantastic NYGUY! Not only is it exciting to know that the WTC will once again make its presence in the skyline soon, but also since 9/11 such buildings as Goldman Sachs and the new 7WTC have made dramatic impacts in addition! In other words, we'll have the WTC back and then some...
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2008, 6:29 AM
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Not only is it exciting to know that the WTC will once again make its presence in the skyline soon, but also since 9/11 such buildings as Goldman Sachs and the new 7WTC have made dramatic impacts in addition! In other words, we'll have the WTC back and then some...
And that's not even taking into account buildings like Silverstein's Park Place and Ratner's Beekman tower - both would be the tallest new towers Downtown if not for the WTC.
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Donald Trump gives his usual rave reviews for the Freedom Tower:
http://www.ny1.com/content/news_beats/po...omberg--jeers-freedom-tower/Default.aspx

"It's something that right now they should think about not building because there's no market," he said. "You're going to have this huge white elephant. The building that's being proposed right now, I think it's bottom heavy. I don't think it's great architecture; I don't like the look of it."

"Can you build a building with millions of square feet when office space is going begging in New York? I mean, I think this could be a catastrophe for New York," continued Trump.
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good progress going on up there
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Glad to see that Fitterman hall is FINALLY getting resolved.
     
     
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Just about every element on the site has had some sort of progress. Can't wait to see more of it.
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Hey! All that scaffolding around the Freedom Tower core is to hold up formwork for another floor, right?
     
     
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The building that's being proposed right now, I think it's bottom heavy.
The FT bottom heavy? What does that make your beloved "Trump Building" at 40 Wall?
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Hey! All that scaffolding around the Freedom Tower core is to hold up formwork for another floor, right?
Yep, looks like they are starting on the basement floors.
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Donald Trump gives his usual rave reviews for the Freedom Tower:
http://www.ny1.com/content/news_beats/po...omberg--jeers-freedom-tower/Default.aspx

"It's something that right now they should think about not building because there's no market," he said. "You're going to have this huge white elephant. The building that's being proposed right now, I think it's bottom heavy. I don't think it's great architecture; I don't like the look of it."

"Can you build a building with millions of square feet when office space is going begging in New York? I mean, I think this could be a catastrophe for New York," continued Trump.

Normally I wouldn't even give anything Trump said the time of day but I feel I must respond. Just because Mr. Trump thinks this isn't a good time to build doesn't mean they should stop! When the economy picks up...and it always recovers, the demand for top quality office space will position the FT very nicely for a high occupancy rate.

Mr. Clump, er Trump forgets that when the oroginal WTC was built the economy was terrible. Why do I get the feeling that if this was a Trump project he would be going full speed ahead??

I had to chuckle about the comment not liking the architecture and not being a great building...what would he call his many "cookie cutter" buildings? High architecture???

I just wish Mr. Trump would shut up and go away

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I bet Trump wouldn't have anything to say if they went along with his hopes of rebuilding like the originals http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/18/wtc.trump/index.html Like you said he just needs to shut up, go away, and just worry about that creature on his head.
     
     
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Is there a rough completion date for the whole complex or are the other buildings on hold for now?
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Is there a rough completion date for the whole complex or are the other buildings on hold for now?
None of the towers are on hold. The complex should be completed by 2013 or 2014 without setbacks...
     
     
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Have you noticed on the first photo they have left some steel from the Original wtc carpark in place. Anyone got any ideas ?
     
     
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