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Old Posted Oct 31, 2008, 6:59 PM
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No I dont have any insight... but this mystery project might have a shiny new neighbour too
     
     
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538-560 W Broadway Zoning: CD-1
That would be south side, mid-block on the block west of Cambie.
I wonder if the 8 stories is because it still falls under the City Hall view cone?
i.e. same height as Crossroads?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2008, 8:18 PM
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Sounds about right, corssroads had the exact same breakout of retail to office.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2008, 8:55 PM
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Havent heard about this one, anyone have any insight? Sounds like good infill.


538-560 W Broadway Zoning: CD-1
Applicant Contact: Tomas Wolf Studio One Architecture
Description: To rezone this site from C-3A to CD-1 to permit an 8-storey mixed-use commercial building containing Retail use on the first and second storeys and Office use on the third through eighth storeys, over three levels of underground parking. The proposed FSR 5.04 and the proposed building height is approximately 104 ft.
Are you sure that's not old? Because that sounds like the location of the Crossroads development, and the configuration sounds remarkably similar (retail, topped by office). Plus, the sites across the road from Crossroads are multiple individual landlords, almost all occupied and thriving, and I don't see any For Sale signs up.

What's the date of that dev app?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2008, 8:58 PM
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Are you sure that's not old? Because that sounds like the location of the Crossroads development, and the configuration sounds remarkably similar (retail, topped by office). Plus, the sites across the road from Crossroads are multiple individual landlords, almost all occupied and thriving, and I don't see any For Sale signs up.

What's the date of that dev app?
Wrong side of road - even numbers on south side, odd numbers on north.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2008, 9:08 PM
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No, this is midblock on the south side. It's being done by Orca West Developments - I haven't seen the project, but they do nice infill stuff - they did the Black Swan on 4th in kits for reference.

I know the Cambie corner is being renovated (or redeveloped?) as well with upgraded retail - I guess this is what Leftcoaster alluded to...
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2008, 1:27 AM
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mixed use... NO RESIDENTIAL?? hmm wonder y...
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2008, 5:48 PM
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BTW - the block on the corner with the Original Joe's and Starbucks - the redevelopment of that site is critical to the development/funding of an underground passage from the Broadway City Hall Station to the NW corner entrance being roughed in at the Crossroads (not to mention an entrance at the SW corner). The punch out panel on the station mezzanine faces either that building or the VanCity building and the passge would run alongside that site. Hopefully the piecemeal (small scale) development of that block won't preclude the funding of the undergound passage (i.e. it may have to be built with public funds rather than being developer-funded)
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2008, 8:12 PM
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It's being done by Orca West Developments - I haven't seen the project, but they do nice infill stuff - they did the Black Swan on 4th in kits for reference.
There stuff looks nice on the outside... inside quality is another story.
     
     
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I noticed the old chapel on Broadway at Commercial has been torn down and looks like some excavation work has begun on the site...
     
     
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That's for a 4 storey social services / health clinic.
     
     
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From the Courier - former Home Depot site at Broadway & Maple now to be developed by Pinnacle. Gee, the new IGA is "unpopular" so the old one needs to be retained....

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Residents rally around threatened grocery store

Cheryl Rossi, Vancouver Courier
Published: Friday, November 07, 2008

If a proposed development gets the go-ahead, a seven-storey development will replace the parking lot of the IGA grocery store at West Broadway and Maple.

That has some residents concerned for the future of the grocery store. "As soon as they dig a hole, open the ground, the IGA can't function anymore because there'll be nowhere for people to park," said Veronica Ross, who lives a couple of blocks from the site.

She said residents don't want to lose the grocery store and want to know what will replace it.

"They're basically piecemeal developing it," she said. "What the neighbourhood would like is a comprehensive plan of the entire site."

The property between West Broadway, Maple, West 10th Avenue and the Arbutus Corridor is two different sites. The north portion with the parking lot and David Hunter Garden Centre is zoned commercial and allows for residential development. The IGA and liquor store sit on land that's zoned for industrial use. The 20 feet between the front of the grocery and liquor stores and the parking lot is a city-owned lane.

Pinnacle International proposes a seven-storey development on the north half, with 20,000 square feet of retail at grade, 120,000 square feet of residential in the six storeys above and underground parking.

A massive Home Depot store was proposed for the site by the property's previous owner, but quashed in 2004.

The zoning policies and guidelines developed in 2004 as a result of the Home Depot controversy could be the reason why Pinnacle is developing its land piece by piece.

Michael Naylor, a planner in the city's rezoning centre, said according to the 2004 guidelines if a developer is to plan the site as a whole with a comprehensive plan, the allowable density would be blended across the north and south portions and not increased.

"So the developer looks at it and goes 'Why should I go through the hassle of a rezoning and comprehensive planning process?'" he said. "The residents need to understand if you want the policies to toe the line on density, then you can't expect people to want to go through a comprehensive planning. You need a bit of a carrot there for the developers to want to enter into it."

Scott Barker, a project facilitator with the city, says Pinnacle's plans, which were presented to the public by Coriolis Consulting at open houses Sept. 10 and last week, include a grocery and liquor store in the new development.

Ross says the grocery store would be half the size of the IGA.

A new IGA operates two blocks away at the corner of West Broadway and Vine, but Ross said the cramped, underground store is unpopular with local residents. She added a condo with 36 units for people with disabilities is behind the old IGA while the below-grade Vine IGA offers only elevator access for people in wheelchairs.

Barker said more than 100 residents attended the first open house and close to 100 attended the second, and the primary concern was the loss of the IGA.

Ross also worries about traffic. She said Pinnacle proposes reducing the four entrances and exits to one off Maple Street.

"Everything's happening on Maple, so when the parents drop their kids off at [Lord Tennyson elementary] school, it's just going to make traffic almost impossible," she said.

Ross wonders if a replacement liquor store would be permitted under city bylaws, which prohibit liquor stores from being located 150 metres from a church, park, elementary or secondary school, community centre or neighbourhood house. Lord Tennyson is kitty corner from the southern portion of the site.

Coriolis Consulting declined to speak on behalf of its client, and Pinnacle International did not return the Courier's calls.

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Old Posted Nov 7, 2008, 10:37 PM
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From the Courier - former Home Depot site at Broadway & Maple now to be developed by Pinnacle. Gee, the new IGA is "unpopular" so the old one needs to be retained....
I wonder how much of this is being driven by the Union? The Maple one is unionized whereas the one on Vine is not. I drove by on opening day for the Vine store and there were pickets out in front because of it.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2008, 12:11 AM
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maybe its just on the wrong side of the tracks
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2008, 6:57 AM
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Elevators must be so humiliating when you're disabled. And the liquor store is so convenient for those poor elementary school teachers. Won't someone please think of the school teachers!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2008, 6:32 PM
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Definitely some unintended consequences flowing from the Home Depot decision, who could have predicted, eh?

The Maple St IGA is my local grocery (3 block walk) and my most regular shopping place - I will miss it if it goes. On the other hand I can't help thinking that a large chunk of its popularity for most is that it is so car-oriented and I would be happy to see that change.

Regarding the snark about Liquor Stores and the proximity to schools - if we lose the store there, the nearest stores are at Granville and at Alma, so "central" Kits will be pretty underserved.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2008, 10:10 PM
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Regarding the snark about Liquor Stores and the proximity to schools - if we lose the store there, the nearest stores are at Granville and at Alma, so "central" Kits will be pretty underserved.
BCLB would just find a new location that complies with zoning - it wouldn't leave a gap in the area coverage. i.e. it would find a new location a couple of blocks away - and may even spur other retail to co-locate. Not a big deal really.
I think the opposition is driven by the loss of convenient parking.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2008, 3:27 AM
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This is not an Industrial site

Someone was asking about this project but I can't find that post anymore. Looks really nice for infill. It's done by Rize Alliance, they have a few interesting projects in the works. This one will be called Containers. It'll be 7 stories, 146,000sqft, LEED Gold, geothermal heating/cooling, under floor heating, Rooftop patio, showers and bike lockers, free gym for tenants, and will be completed in 2010.









Link to pdf on the project, mentions some developments in the surrounding area.

http://www.rize.ca/stream_file.php?fileId=3&fileType=file&index=3
     
     
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looks neat
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2008, 4:11 AM
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It looks ok. The south side (with the louvers, they look like louvers) is bland but not terrible. The parking entrance/exit is awkward being so close to the corner
     
     
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