YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 57

Gordon · #**1121** Posted **Nov 7, 2008, 10:05 PM**

It seems that Air Canada's YVR HKG service has been reduced from daily to 5 flights / week

It seems like they are dismantling their Vancouver Asian Gateway.

SpongeG · #**1122** Posted **Nov 7, 2008, 10:12 PM**

making room for more asian airlines!

Yume-sama · #**1123** Posted **Nov 8, 2008, 12:05 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeG

making room for more asian airlines!

Would other, better, airlines even be allowed to come in to replace Air Canada?

Hourglass · #**1124** Posted **Nov 8, 2008, 2:41 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

It seems that Air Canada's YVR HKG service has been reduced from daily to 5 flights / week

It seems like they are dismantling their Vancouver Asian Gateway.

Remember they've also gone from a A340 to a B777 on this route, so there isn't that much of a reduction in seat capacity. I also think (hope?) this is just for the winter season.

Meantime, Cathay Pacific has gone from 21 flights / week to 17 and now down to 14 flights / week. It's a tough environment right now and it's only going to get tougher over the next little while.

Metro-One · #**1125** Posted **Nov 8, 2008, 3:06 AM**

I do notice that Air Canada is decreasing Vancouver's service at a higher rate than that of the east, no surprise there. I just hope all these reduced flights don't send overseas travelers to airports south of the border instead. I do hope the olympics boost up flight numbers again into this city. I really don't want YVR to be loosing large numbers of passengers.

Gordon · #**1126** Posted **Nov 10, 2008, 10:07 PM**

It looks like by April or May Air Canada's Aisian services from YVR will will be the same as last Summer.( according to ACs web timetable.

twoNeurons · #**1127** Posted **Nov 10, 2008, 11:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

I really don't want YVR to be loosing large numbers of passengers.

It's losing. Sorry to be the grammar nazi, that one's a pet peeve of mine.

SpongeG · #**1128** Posted **Nov 11, 2008, 12:38 AM**

things always slow down in the winter

look at all the airlines that don't fly to vancouver in winter - in the summer the airport is full of charter flights to europe

Metro-One · #**1129** Posted **Nov 11, 2008, 4:42 AM**

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It's losing. Sorry to be the grammar nazi, that one's a pet peeve of mine.

Haha, please correct me whenever you can, i have horrible spelling.

muzhav84 · #**1130** Posted **Nov 11, 2008, 5:30 AM**

Bad new for passenger traffic... the economic slowdown is no doubt here in full force... Total traffic year over year is down 6%.. transborder dropped an astonishing 12%... keep in mind as recently as february, transborder traffic rose 12%!! we should be prepared for some major downshifting in traffic growth for the next little while...

http://www.yvr.ca/pdf/authority/statistics/September_2008_Traffic_Update.pdf

http://www.yvr.ca/pdf/authority/statistics/February_2008_Traffic_Update.pdf

phesto · #**1131** Posted **Nov 11, 2008, 9:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by muzhav84

Bad new for passenger traffic... the economic slowdown is no doubt here in full force... Total traffic year over year is down 6%.. transborder dropped an astonishing 12%... keep in mind as recently as february, transborder traffic rose 12%!! we should be prepared for some major downshifting in traffic growth for the next little while...

http://www.yvr.ca/pdf/authority/statistics/September_2008_Traffic_Update.pdf

http://www.yvr.ca/pdf/authority/statistics/February_2008_Traffic_Update.pdf

September traffic was down 6%, YTD is still up 4.2%. I'd expect it will still finish the year above 3% growth, which isn't all that bad considering all that has happened to the airline industry and the economy in 2008. Of course, things could get even worse with more cuts to service.

muzhav84 · #**1132** Posted **Nov 12, 2008, 8:35 AM**

it isn't bad in the sense that Vancouver is alone or we're doing something wrong, but 6% decrease is very significant... the economy in 2008 didn;t start getting reallt worrysome until september, so the 4.2% YTD is a thing of the past... the indicators are pointing in the other direction.. that is why i like comparing it to the early part of the year, because we were on a growth trajectory, and look how soon it changed after all of the financial mess... shows how everything is connected

phesto · #**1133** Posted **Nov 12, 2008, 4:22 PM**

^Completely agree. I was just trying to clarify your original post in that it is September traffic that was down 6% over 2007, not YTD or annual traffic. 2008 will still yield an increase in traffic barring some massive dropoff in November/December.

vansky · #**1134** Posted **Nov 12, 2008, 7:36 PM**

who cares, the terminals are still in construction, all it matters is that stuff are getting built.

muzhav84 · #**1135** Posted **Nov 13, 2008, 1:54 AM**

i don't really agree, it is not good news for the airport if traffic declines like this... the foreign airlines we are hoping to see, with more destinations, is unlikely to happen in times like this. reduced traffic/demand scares airlines, so expansion will be delayed...

However, it is good we are doing all of the expansions and projects now, because demand will come back and it will be great to have a great airport in any case! its just traffic stats are important to follow, it matters

SpongeG · #**1136** Posted **Nov 13, 2008, 2:55 AM**

vancouver is a small market

its hitting everyone large and small - the smallest take the hit first

SpongeG · #**1137** Posted **Nov 13, 2008, 5:16 AM**

YVR sets precedent in offering free WiFi

Vancouver's YVR has become the first major airport in Canada to offer free WiFi service throughout its terminals.

The move comes as the airport wraps up its contract with Telus, which had provided a WiFi service that users had to pay for since 2001.

"We made the decision on the basis of passenger demand," said Kevin Molloy, vice-president, simplified passenger travel and chief information officer for the airport. "We have asked people how can we serve them better and WiFi is a service that is in demand."

Vancouver airport was a leader in WiFi. When it introduced it with Nokia in 2000 it was the first airport in North America to offer the service. Up until Friday when Telus' contract expired, free WiFi service was only available in lounges while elsewhere it was offered as a paid service.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=629a59bd-8b57-4979-8d80-ac899381c09a

Yume-sama · #**1138** Posted **Nov 13, 2008, 5:59 AM**

Cool. The Telus internet actually worked pretty good. Hopefully now that it's free it won't get so slow and clogged up that NOBODY can use it.

Gordon · #**1139** Posted **Nov 13, 2008, 4:16 PM**

As far as expansions go I would suspsect that the remailing 5 gates on the West Chevron will probably be delayed for a couple of years, unles YvR feels they want to be ready for the next upturn.

It's the Domestic terminal that needs the work especially the B Pier.

wrenegade · #**1140** Posted **Nov 13, 2008, 6:39 PM**

Hasn't the WiFi at YVR been free for a while? I know I've been using it for free since June. That was the first time I noticed at least. Either way it is excellent (and I haven't noticed it being slow).