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Old Posted Nov 4, 2008, 3:15 PM
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I am giddy about the thought of getting rid of that ramp...

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Old Posted Nov 5, 2008, 1:34 AM
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Water Street ramp

Larry Posner has told me that the ramp is a hindrance to Ft. Conde development because of the noise and confinement. He is pretty much maxed out for rehabbing the buildings there except the one for the B&B. His plan to put in a large B&B would happen faster if he knew that his guest would have a more restful night. That last entrance to the tunnel is always a pain for everyone. I had no idea that ALDOT wanted that ramp gone but...hey...if they want it done and spend the money. I did think the federal highway people were not too enthused by a northern bridge route; they so much as said "prove we are wrong". Build the bridge...build it now. A bridge adds to our skyline.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2008, 3:11 PM
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Lagniappe

Lagniappe, Mobile's alternative newspaper, is often quoted here on this forum. In reading this morning's issue I was a bit taken back by their cynical attitude toward downtown planning (see Rob Holbert and Ashley Toland's columns.) What say you about this attitude?
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Ashley Toland is an idiot... she thinks she is witty, and charming, but she is more like anoying and has no class,,,if you feel like she feels why even be in Mobile, just move...she is always negative about Mobile ...but she has the right to feel the way she does and she can write what she wants
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 3:03 AM
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At least she writes a column in every issue, unlike that geek that tries to 4 da county view. Im geauxing to throw up AGAIN if i hear about another park for the downtown area!! We need more condos to bring in more people. The only park i wanna see is in a garage.



Mobile votes against the winning president sh*t happens.......

1) 1960's Brookley Airforce Base .......gone
2) 1992 Naval station Mobile......ha ....gone

3) 2008 KC-45 Tanker.....lol....bye bye Blues

Yes this election was historic !!
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 2:51 PM
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Ashley Toland is an idiot... she thinks she is witty, and charming, but she is more like anoying and has no class,,,if you feel like she feels why even be in Mobile, just move...she is always negative about Mobile ...but she has the right to feel the way she does and she can write what she wants
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She thinks she is funny, but she sounds childish. Her collums are nothing more than a third grade report.
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 3:21 PM
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I have been too busy to post since the plan revealing, but here is my take. I liked that there were things that can be done short term (Dauphin St boat dock and Maritime Museum Completion) and then some more long term ideas (Civic Center remodel). There are also some ideas that are cheap/free for the city (new historic districts, ramp removal by ALDOT, etc) and expensive ones (civic center private public partnership, barton redevelopment, etc). The boat dock at Dauphin should be done easily since the convention center has that land. It would be nice to have the dock's land too to get started on improvements there. I don't know why they were so critical of all the waterfront taxi, dinner cruise, boat dock talk. I have sat at Cooper Park and watched the river. There is no concern abotu heavy boat traffic and falling containers like they talk about in that article. There are not a ton of boats coming/going. THe container dock is well south of the downtown riverfront. Ive seen everything from tugs to container ships to oil rigs to bass boats go by the park. Not to mention we already have a dinner cruise riding the river. All they are doing is building it a visible dock from Dauphin so that it isn't hidden behind the convention center. I really like the ramp removal also to open up such a cool area. It will be much more easily accessed by people from the cruise area. I think the B&Bs/restaraunts could flourish that close to the terminal. Now Posner just has to run out the current tenants (law offices). My only dissapointments were with regards to the lack of specific promises. I think Toland was right in mocking all of the "commercial corridor" kind of stuff on pretty much every decent sized sreet in donwtown. I think the maritime museum completion will be the first improvement. Personally I believe we could see a huge improvement if the museum, ramp demo/ft conde village expansion, and civic center redevelopment occur. Those projects would creat another full strip of positive development from the waterfront radiating west just like we currently have on Dauphin. I think the most farfetched stuff was in the northern district. That area is in the worst shape to begin with. Plus, USA already opened a research park on campus so I am not sure how keen they will be on encouraging medical research along Springhill Ave. I do really like the landfill redevelpment as well, even though I would have no clue how to get to that area. Lastly, I love the idea of Barton as a culinary school that they mocked in the article. Bham has a culinary school and it has resulted in them having some nationally recognized restaraunts and renowned chefs. It would provide training/education to some of our citizens that are not college bound, provides the city with top quality restaraunts/chefs, and creates a new draw to pull in new people to the city who come in for training and stay. Most of the quality cities in the US have a culinary training facility. I also like the extension of the historic districts and creation of new ones. HD's do nothing but improve the areas included. Lastly I liked the additions of sigle family houses on alot of lots within the Hank Aaron Loop. THese were barely mentioned in the presentation, but I think it is cool that we still have some single family homes with yards in our "downtown" area. I think adding more is a good idea. It has all the positives of urban living (close to downtown, walkable, etc) with all the positives of more surburban living (full house, yards, etc). Hopefully the mayor gets moving quickly and hopefully some projects that had been awaiting this plan will now move forward with plans. I think we will boom if we could get the economy to get back on an upswing. Hopefully we can get the EADS thing to go our way still too. Mike Dean said after his re-election that they have 6-9 other projects in a holding pattern in case EADS falls through.

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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 8:06 PM
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At least she writes a column in every issue, unlike that geek that tries to 4 da county view. Im geauxing to throw up AGAIN if i hear about another park for the downtown area!! We need more condos to bring in more people. The only park i wanna see is in a garage.



Mobile votes against the winning president sh*t happens.......

1) 1960's Brookley Airforce Base .......gone
2) 1992 Naval station Mobile......ha ....gone

3) 2008 KC-45 Tanker.....lol....bye bye Blues

Yes this election was historic !!
I wouldn't say that...actually, I think it is a high possibility that the democrats will split the contract. I think Obama will keep Robert Gates as Defense Sec., which will get right to work on the tanker contract because he understands the need for new tankers. The tanker competition is simple compared to the other issues at hand the Obama administration will have to tackle and I think he will do a good job at getting them done. I support President-Elect Barack Obama.
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 8:11 PM
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Obama does not care about Mobile, he cares about the middle east. I do not trust him. All of you that wanted change, you got it, he did not say what kind of change, but you got a Half white/Black man in the white house. I am sure that the Arabs will be able to enter the country for free now and not have to lift a finger like most folks that live off the government.

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kind of funny, when I do spell check it says his name is Osama!
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 8:13 PM
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Hillary has more balls to stand up for America than he does.
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 8:19 PM
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Lastly, I love the idea of Barton as a culinary school that they mocked in the article. Bham has a culinary school and it has resulted in them having some nationally recognized restaraunts and renowned chefs. It would provide training/education to some of our citizens that are not college bound, provides the city with top quality restaraunts/chefs, and creates a new draw to pull in new people to the city who come in for training and stay. Most of the quality cities in the US have a culinary training facility.
I like that idea, too. It's not just the citizens who aren't college bound, either.
Some students at culinary schools are people with "regular" college degrees such as mothers who left the full-time workforce who want just a part-time deal owning a catering business or making desserts for a restaurant as a sideline.

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Mike Dean said after his re-election that they have 6-9 other projects in a holding pattern in case EADS falls through.
Might as well break the holding pattern and get those projects rolling. If you have 6-9 "sure things" on hold in this economic environment, then take 'em.
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 8:21 PM
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Obama does not care about Mobile, he cares about the middle east. I do not trust him. All of you that wanted change, you got it, he did not say what kind of change, but you got a Half white/Black man in the white house. I am sure that the Arabs will be able to enter the country for free now and not have to lift a finger like most folks that live off the government.

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kind of funny, when I do spell check it says his name is Osama!
You know Tim, I have generally enjoyed reading your posts and thoughts on here, but with the comments you made above, you come across as a sore loser and as a racist.

Suck it up and act like a big boy. Your candidate lost and you need to deal with it... don't belly moan about it on here because no one wants to hear it!
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Funny you say that, I am not racist, I voted for Kip Holden and Sam Jones both are Black, hmmmmmm! Let me see here, you are wrong my friend. I would rather Sam Jones be president, at least he is honest about a lot of things. Do not judge me buddy, or big boy! LOL

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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 8:37 PM
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It is worthwhile to try to discuss as rationally as we can without getting too personal the economic implications of living in one of the "reddest" states during one of the "bluest" eras nationally.
Alabama does indeed have lots of industry that could potentially be affected by changes in DC - non-union factories, military-related research and employment, medicine, agriculture, forestry, water resources, coal and steel, etc.

Other than EADS, what implications are there for the Mobile-area specifically ?
Which parts of Mobile's economic base will benefit ? Which parts will suffer ?
Which will remain the same ?
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I`m for Obama all the way .I don`t think Tim is racist I do think his comments are a little far fetched I am a 23 year old African Amarican and I do`nt know why people think that Obama is a terrorist. That idea is just crazy to me all I have to say is God`s will was done and I do`nt think God would have allowed a terrost to run this country. I` am sick and tired of caucasins saying Obama won becasue of Black and this does not refer to you TIM. Statisticaly The white working class made up the majority of Obama`s votes not Blacks if itwere only Blacks Obama would have never won .


I can understand were OCA REP is coming from because Wednesday after history was mad I have gotten all kinds of weird looks here in Mobile. It doesn`t bother me but peopel need to get over racism.

I do believe with all my heart that change is coming to America and Obama is the man that will bring that change.
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 9:17 PM
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Your right might be the end times, we will all see. As far as it goes, I do not see him caring for and about Mobile. I think Sam Jones could have done a better job, and Obama is not all black, he is half, what's the big deal with all that? Any who, since the economy is in the situation that it is in, I do not see Obama digging in the petty cash to help Mobile with our plans. This would have to be bought and paid for on the local end. Mark my word, it will never, ever happen. Mobile is on its own, and kiss the tanker completely good bye... Obama is based out of Illinois, so Boeing will get the complete and packaged deal. See, Obama is about redistributing the wealth and higher taxes, not what is going to be fare to the hard working part of our country.
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Funny you say that, I am not racist, I voted for Kip Holden and Sam Jones both are Black, hmmmmmm! Let me see here, you are wrong my friend. I would rather Sam Jones be president, at least he is honest about a lot of things. Do not judge me buddy, or big boy! LOL

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I was not judging you Tim... just pointing out how you were coming across.

If you are not a racist, that is good. However, the fact that there is now (and these are YOUR words) a half white/black man in the White House is irrelevant. He is an AMERICAN and he is the PRESIDENT-elect of this country.

I guess enough said on this subject.
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I`m for Obama all the way .I don`t think Tim is racist I do think his comments are a little far fetched I am a 23 year old African Amarican and I do`nt know why people think that Obama is a terrorist. That idea is just crazy to me all I have to say is God`s will was done and I do`nt think God would have allowed a terrost to run this country. I` am sick and tired of caucasins saying Obama won becasue of Black and this does not refer to you TIM. Statisticaly The white working class made up the majority of Obama`s votes not Blacks if itwere only Blacks Obama would have never won .


I can understand were OCA REP is coming from because Wednesday after history was mad I have gotten all kinds of weird looks here in Mobile. It doesn`t bother me but peopel need to get over racism.

I do believe with all my heart that change is coming to America and Obama is the man that will bring that change.
Your right change is going to come, bad or good it is coming. Secondly how do you know he is not a terrorist, the man just came on the scene and is willing to sit with foreign enemies without consent. Please
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Your right might be the end times, we will all see.
End times? GREAT... he must be the anti-christ too for you to type something of that nature.

This is a development thread; not for political views. You are a sore loser and need to move on. You are still holding on to the mean-spirited, religous-right bull crap that the conservatives tried to use during the campaign to discredit Obama. It did not work then and it is not going to work now!

If you want to bitch and moan about the presidential election, take it to the appropriate area of Skybar (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=334) and get it out of here!
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Ok, I was talking about development in Mobile, go take a picture.
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