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Old Posted Oct 24, 2008, 7:14 PM
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I think it will still be the Von Braun Center, just the arena and concert hall will
have donors names. This should stimulate more growth downtown and help the
Constellation project. There needs to be a twenty+ story hotel tower on the corner of Clinton and Monroe.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2008, 10:36 PM
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I have heard rumors that the owners of Bridge Street have sold, or are in the process of selling Bridge Street. I know that the owners, O&S Holdings are having a hard time with construction at another location in Texas, but haven't been able to confirm the rumors. Anyone heard anything?
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I have heard rumors that the owners of Bridge Street have sold, or are in the process of selling Bridge Street. I know that the owners, O&S Holdings are having a hard time with construction at another location in Texas, but haven't been able to confirm the rumors. Anyone heard anything?
Let's find out. The other Bridge Street in Texas is in a North Dallas suburb(McKinney, up north of Garland):

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2008/oct/16/construction-mckinneys-bridge-street-town-centre-s/

There was like 4 open-air centers U/C in that area btw, so 1 of them was likely to fail.

EDIT: http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php?p=284308

^Looks like only the Westin was being constructed at this time, and it was only to about the 4th floor or so.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2008, 6:09 PM
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Back to downtown and the new look Propst Arena.

The arena's new look will give so much character and appeal to the downtown park and waterfront. The downtown area is quickly becoming the crown jewel of Huntsville. But as nice as it is it lacks tourism and attractions to bring visitors and residents downtown more often. So here's some ideas that I think Mayor Battle and his new administration should strongly look into for the next 5-10 years of redevelopment in downtown. I have a vision of seeing the commercialized space from the corner of Monroe and William where the Embassy Suites Hotel is down to Madison St redeveloped into a group of museums.

1.We need to strongly consider to be the first city in the state of Alabama to have a signature state aquarium in the likes of the Tennessee Aquarium in Chattanooga. This would be a huge financial impact on our local economy with tourism as these things are moneymakers. You would be surprised at how many locals travel all the way up to Atlanta and Chattanooga just to visit theirs. Why not have one right here at home, in downtown? Where would something like that go you might ask? Well for starters, the best and logical location would be right across from the Big Spring Park. My ideal location would be where the holiday Inn is at now. Demolish that hotel and use that space for a nice sized state aquarium. In fact that location would be equivalent to the exact size of space at the TN Aquarium.

2.A science Museum should be our second approach to lure tourism to downtown. Once again, a major financial economical impact science museums across the nation have on their city. Build it next to the aquarium in the large square occupied by an office complex on the corner of Lowe Ave and William Ave across from the Arts Museum. Make the museum about 100,000 sf with enough parking space. With this location it would be only a short walking distance to the Children's Museum about 720 feet (240 yards) away. You would then have the Chidren's Museum, Science Museum, Aquarium and Art Museum all within a short walking distance of each other. Not to mention the VBC and the new Constellation.

3.Tear down the Cocoa Cola plant across from the VBC on the corner of Clinton and Monroe (where HsvTiger suggested) and develop a 400-room luxury convention hotel and mixed use space. Put a restaurant at the top that overlooks the city. Make it about 20 stories.

4.Tear down the projects between Dallas and Monroe and redevelop that entire area into mixed use space for retail and commercial use. Develop new towers each between 15-20 stories. Develop the city's first signature tower for mix use purposes between 25-30 stories tall and an additional 5 story peak. Turn that area from Cleveland Ave to Clinton Ave into the new and expanded downtown. That's roughly over 100 acres of wasted space sitting there. There's so much potential with that land and the location would be between downtown and HW72 east. Plus it's far to the north of the historical downtown and homes that the height restrictions would be apply because it would not hover over the old neighborhoods. The new downtown expansion would be equivalent to the space of downtown from Church St to Lincoln all the way up to Holmes. That's roughly more than half the size of downtown today.

5.Remodel the entire strip off of front street across from the park. Tear down the old downtown police department and fire station and expand the court yard area with picnic tables and a nice signature water fountain. maybe add some new statue markers in the expanded area. Possibly add a park restaurant.

6.Close off the parking garage that borders the BSP and redevelop the front that faces the park into a strip of eateries and shops next to First American Bank. Make it more visitor friendly. Something like a promenade. That's a dangerous pedestrian crossing anyway. Build a new downtown parking garage between the VBC and the Constellation development.


If you look at the way it is now and you look at what I just listed, HTown could eventually become the new Atlanta one day. Maybe not in our time but someday. The city is already laid out very similar to Atlanta. A city that sits in the middle of a country side and a major HW running through the heart of it. ATL is spread out, just as Huntsville is doing now. And if Madison does annex with HTown it will only move this city more into that direction of the next major metropolitan city of the south.
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OMG, I just got back from Knoxville, and what they're doing with downtown is AMAZING!
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Let's find out. The other Bridge Street in Texas is in a North Dallas suburb(McKinney, up north of Garland):

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2008/oct/16/construction-mckinneys-bridge-street-town-centre-s/
The way O&S mistreated the local construction companies here in Huntsville, I can believe why they are having problems with construction companies there. The first construction company here quit because O&S stopped paying them and their subs. O&S was like 6-9 months behind in payments. When O&S went looking for a new contractor none of the other local construction companies would touch the project because they knew how O&S treated the original contractor.

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Old Posted Oct 29, 2008, 2:19 PM
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Aquarium would be really nice to have
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2008, 2:29 PM
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Aquarium would be really nice to have
Might be hard to compete with the ones in Chattanooga and Atlanta.
A monorail from the Space and Rocket Center to a world class science museum(SciQuest type)/planetarium/ downtown would be interesting. A good location would
be the desolate decaying city block bounded by Holmes, Church and Monroe.
Incorporate a hotel/restaurant make a greenway connecting to Big Spring which then ties in the Art Museum/VBC and a short walk to Early Works and Constitution Hall Village.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2008, 8:27 PM
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Might be hard to compete with the ones in Chattanooga and Atlanta.
A monorail from the Space and Rocket Center to a world class science museum(SciQuest type)/planetarium/ downtown would be interesting. A good location would
be the desolate decaying city block bounded by Holmes, Church and Monroe.
Incorporate a hotel/restaurant make a greenway connecting to Big Spring which then ties in the Art Museum/VBC and a short walk to Early Works and Constitution Hall Village.
I love your idea more!
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They will open in August at Providence
who new it would take so long?

By GINA HANNAH
Times Business Writer [email protected]
Franchise owners say pizza eatery to open this summer

After nearly six years of searching, Mellow Mushroom has found a home in Huntsville.

The hip pizza eatery will open its first Huntsville restaurant at Village of Providence this summer, said Diane Holman, who with her husband, Mark, owns the Mellow Mushroom franchise for the Providence location.

"Melissa McFarlin, spokeswoman for Atlanta-based Home-Grown Industries of Georgia, Mellow Mushroom's parent company, said the company has been trying to locate a restaurant in the Huntsville area for about six years, but struggled to find "the right franchisee."

"We're very excited to finally be getting to Huntsville," she said."
The revised date on MM web page says opening is now 2009. Guess they underestimated something.
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What are they doing at US 72 east near moores mill, are they just repaving or adding lanes (i'm not talking about the new road Harris Hill blvd either)
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What are they doing at US 72 east near moores mill, are they just repaving or adding lanes (i'm not talking about the new road Harris Hill blvd either)
just repaving, adding lanes would be too forward thinking. What a stupid stretch of road, one stalled car or minor wreck can cripple the entire east side of Huntsville due to blocked traffic. That should be unacceptable Mayor Battle. In that area also there seems to be some site work/road layout, being done for the Harris Hills development between Moores Mill and Shields. The whole area between those two roads is planned for this project. It's on the scale of Valley Bend in Jones Valley.
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The revised date on MM web page says opening is now 2009. Guess they underestimated something.
Well, crap! I was hoping it would be ready before the holidays....

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What are they doing at US 72 east near moores mill, are they just repaving or adding lanes (i'm not talking about the new road Harris Hill blvd either)
Were you the one who just asked this on my blog, under the VBC renovations post? Yeah, they're just repaving with asphalt that has better traction to prevent hydroplaning. I think it's hilarious that a lot of people want guardrails there, which would cause more problems with cars bouncing back into traffic instead of just sliding off into the trees. 90% of the problems with Chapman Mountain would be solved if people just slowed down, learned how to MERGE (not stop) from Moore's Mill, and obeyed the "slower traffic/trucks keep right" rule. A third (truck) lane up the mountain on both sides wouldn't hurt either.
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Downtown HSV needs more people draw attractions. I would suggest moving the baseball field downtown where the Holiday Inn property is or on the other side by Veterans Park. This would at least get 2000-3000 people downtown on game nights. That might encourage restaurants to locate in the area and even force the city to accelerate their parking structure construction.
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Downtown HSV needs more people draw attractions. I would suggest moving the baseball field downtown where the Holiday Inn property is or on the other side by Veterans Park. This would at least get 2000-3000 people downtown on game nights. That might encourage restaurants to locate in the area and even force the city to accelerate their parking structure construction.
Won't happen since the city owns the property it is currently at.The stadium needs it's own renovation and the city has done a pretty could job of tryingit just costs dollars. The only site that could have accomodated would be the Constellation site. You are right though and hopefully Constellation will be that entertainment venue that we all want.
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I was downtown at the park today and across from the courthouse there used to be a hot dog stand that this guy would set up in front of the CH but it was gone today. So I went down to the West Court Cafe and it was closed down and empty. I was hungry and discouraged that there's nowhere to go for a quick meal or food. Why doesn't the city open up small eateries downtown along the park area? They would be major hits with the visitors. All of those stores are sitting there empty around the square. They should put shops and diners in there. A corn dog eatery would be great for those who want something simple and quick. Heck puts a freaking McDonald's for walk in only in there. Put something down there.
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Why doesn't the city open up small eateries downtown along the park area?
It is not the responsibility of THE CITY to open something of this nature. If a business owner thinks they can make it there, they will pursue a venture. Maybe you were implying that the city should offer incentives or something, but your post reads like the city should be opening these eateries themselves...
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I was downtown at the park today and across from the courthouse there used to be a hot dog stand that this guy would set up in front of the CH but it was gone today. So I went down to the West Court Cafe and it was closed down and empty. I was hungry and discouraged that there's nowhere to go for a quick meal or food. Why doesn't the city open up small eateries downtown along the park area? They would be major hits with the visitors. All of those stores are sitting there empty around the square. They should put shops and diners in there. A corn dog eatery would be great for those who want something simple and quick. Heck puts a freaking McDonald's for walk in only in there. Put something down there.
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Circuit City Closing 155 Stores

"According to anonymous insider tips, Circuit City is closing 155 stores and withdrawing from 12 markets. This will be officially announced tomorrow (Monday) at 8am..."

http://consumerist.com/5074161/updated-breaking-circuit-city-closing-155-stores
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"According to anonymous insider tips, Circuit City is closing 155 stores and withdrawing from 12 markets. This will be officially announced tomorrow (Monday) at 8am..."

http://consumerist.com/5074161/updated-breaking-circuit-city-closing-155-stores
Huntsville's store will remain open.

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You can already start to see which stores are closing by seeing which ones don't show up in Circuit City's online store locator.
...which I did, and HSV came up.

However, the "new" Trussville store is no longer on the list so they're closing.
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