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I hate it when windows don't line up vertically. Unless they are intentionally put in a pattern. Otherwise, it just looks like a piecemeal afterthought.
Yeah that section of the building is the main thing that annoys me...it should be a lot more glass...not randomly spaced little windows. It makes it look like they are trying too hard to make it "cool" or something haha
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Prodel still has the old render on thier web-site, we will have to keep our eyes peeled to see when they update it...hopefully with a nice 3D model like before.

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While browing thier projects I came across this picture from 1996 (when the ALC HQ opened) notice Beaver Lumber is still there haha (top right building with a yellow stripe on it) Also there is no Rogers building.

This view will be dramatically different when the new courthouse takes shape.

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I REALLY hope that's just a bad angle. It has a bit of depth on the side, but not much. More of a building-block look. Again, it's hard to tell. It could possibly be the same basic shape as the older render (with one shortened "wing").

Even if it is just an update to the older render, at a bad angle, I'm not sure I like how the glass walls in the courtyard area have been replaced with smaller windows. It kind of dulls it down a bit. And those small windows along the side facing the street... This is a courthouse, not a jail!

The older render also had those darker features along the ends of the building. They kind of remind me of the columns of a more traditional style courthouse.

As previously stated, I'll wait until some other renders are released before I make a final judgment (pun intended). From what I've seen so far though, I'm not that impressed.
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It would be nice if they would put that all windows where they have it those tiny crappy windows, its a courthouse not some kind of Art museum save the crazy windows and stuff and make it a traditional style courthouse, maybe not to traditional though that would small and all wood.
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Also think one of Monctons radio stations... C103.1 and the country station should look into moving down town into a vacant building, if there is any.
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I REALLY hope that's just a bad angle. It has a bit of depth on the side, but not much. More of a building-block look. Again, it's hard to tell. It could possibly be the same basic shape as the older render (with one shortened "wing").

Even if it is just an update to the older render, at a bad angle, I'm not sure I like how the glass walls in the courtyard area have been replaced with smaller windows. It kind of dulls it down a bit. And those small windows along the side facing the street... This is a courthouse, not a jail!

The older render also had those darker features along the ends of the building. They kind of remind me of the columns of a more traditional style courthouse.

As previously stated, I'll wait until some other renders are released before I make a final judgment (pun intended). From what I've seen so far though, I'm not that impressed.
haha I was waiting for someone to say that.
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While browing thier projects I came across this picture from 1996 (when the ALC HQ opened) notice Beaver Lumber is still there haha (top right building with a yellow stripe on it) Also there is no Rogers building.

This view will be dramatically different when the new courthouse takes shape.


This photo just emphasizes my point of how 'predominant' this building is going to be...it should be something stimulating to the eye, not an eyesore.

We've basically had to look at nothing but that damn Aliant Tower and Assumption Building for 20 years...give us something else worth admiring.

Jason

PS> Another that shows the 'point of view' looking at this building....


Beaver Lumber still there - Tourism Moncton

Imagine looking from Riverview.
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Hi guys! I've been following this thread for a long time and finally decided to join....

As per the Courthouse renderings. I think the first design is out dated it's the typical looking courthouse. Our Courthouse should be up to date with the times and flow with the Architecture that's already existing around the downtown. The second design is a Contemporary design that doesn't fit the site. It's far too modern for the city of Moncton at this point in time.
If I were to choose, my pick is pick #2.
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Hi guys! I've been following this thread for a long time and finally decided to join....

As per the Courthouse renderings. I think the first design is out dated it's the typical looking courthouse. Our Courthouse should be up to date with the times and flow with the Architecture that's already existing around the downtown. The second design is a Contemporary design that doesn't fit the site. It's far too modern for the city of Moncton at this point in time.
If I were to choose, my pick is pick #2.
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Pics from the 4 buildings U/C within a 3 min walk from my house (cause Im lazy and dont want to walk further today haha)

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Ashford Office (lots of progress haha)


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That new Fed building is a lot bigger than I thought it would be.

I guess the next thing would be to get a parking garage installed in that courtyard behind it.
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Dieppe aquatic centre construction delayed

Defect in exterior panelling puts project six weeks behind schedule

By Aloma Jardine
Published Wednesday October 29th, 2008



Dieppe’s aquatic centre may not be sinking, but it has fallen a little behind schedule. City spokesman Normand Léger says the project was delayed by about six weeks over the summer when workers discovered a manufacturing defect in the exterior panelling and had to remove what was already installed and wait for new panelling.

City spokesman Normand Léger says the project was delayed by about six weeks over the summer when workers discovered a manufacturing defect in the exterior paneling.

All of the panelling installed to that point had to be removed and the city had to wait for new paneling to be manufactured and shipped.

Léger says that will likely push back the opening, originally slated for late spring 2009.

"We don't have a firm date right now, but we do expect that (it will be) sometime late spring, early summer," he says. "The main focus is to be ready for September and our regular programs, so we'll take advantage of two or three months to run the facility, take the bugs out of the system and make sure everything is ready for the fall programs."

Workers were able to continue with some of the interior work while they waited for the new panelling to arrive, but were limited in how much they could do as the building was not yet completely enclosed.

Although the problem has cost time, it won't cost any money.

"From what I've been told, there will be no added costs to us because of that," Léger says. "It will be taken care of by the manufacturer because it is their problem."

In response to a rumour that the aquatic centre is being built on unstable ground unable to support a structure of that size and that an outside engineering firm had been called in to inspect the project because of concerns about the terrain, Léger echoes Mayor Jean LeBlanc in saying the pool is definitely not sinking.

"I don't know where that rumour came from," Léger says. "Maybe people were looking and seeing the exterior wasn't going too fast. Because we had to stop installing panels, there was a long while where there didn't seem to be a lot of things happening there, so probably some people thought there must be something wrong."

The site did have issues with the soil back in the spring. The original footprint of the building was moved about 45 metres (150 feet) and when construction began it was discovered part of the land had been filled in by a previous contractor with construction debris.

The area had to be refilled with proper materials, which cost more than $326,000, one of the major reasons for the $800,000 cost overrun announced by council in April.

Léger says the replacement panelling has just finished going up and workers are completing the last of the major exterior work, installing the final few windows and trim, work he expects to be completed within the next week or so.

At the same time, interior work on the aquatic centre has been moving ahead.

The smaller leisure pool is already in place and work has begun on the installation of the main competitive pool.

Léger says most of the interior walls are up and finishing work, such as painting, has begun.

"We expect that most of the stainless steel and everything else should be done within a month, then they will be finishing the floors, doing the area around the pool, finishing the cement and things like that," he says.

"At the same time they are doing the mechanical (work), putting in all the piping for the air conditioning, the dehumidifiers, the water."

Léger says they should have a good idea on where they stand with regard to the budget later this week once a few outstanding tenders have come in.

"Once those are in, we will have a little better idea where we're at and depending on the prices that come in, we'll then have a better idea where everything stands," he says. "We don't have any final figures right now because there are still a couple of important pieces of equipment in the tendering process."

Léger says there is still a fair amount of outdoor work to be done at the site, including making the parking lot and landscaping, but the water retention ponds have already been constructed and Aquatique Street has been extended to the centre.

He says the city will soon begin hiring pool staff so they will have the winter to begin working on programming and doing any necessary training so everyone is ready to go once the doors open next year.
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Well, I'm getting in on the discussion re: the new courthouse quite late (I was at work today - damn!!).

I must cast my vote with the lot who feel that the new rendering of the Justice Facility just doesn't cut it. I realize that it is a 2D render showing only one side of the building but there is something about the design that simply screams "early 1950's communist block".

They can do a lot better than this!!

Come on people, this will be a signature building for downtown! They can at least put decent windows in this structure.

The city was able to pressure Blue Cross into upgrading the facade on the expansion to the Blue Cross Centre a couple of years ago. Hopefully they will have some influence here as well!!
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DMCI focuses on St. George Street

Members hear plans for street rejuvenation at annual meeting

Published Wednesday October 29th, 2008
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Downtown Moncton Inc. yesterday unveiled some ideas on how to rejuvenate the St. George Street area. Many of the suggestions showed how simply updating landscaping could yield big changes. ABOVE: This shows the area where the CN main rail line cross St. George. BELOW: This artist’s illustration shows how the same area could be transformed with some simple landscaping.

Fresh off the experience of campaigning for a seat as a federal MP, Downtown Moncton Centre-Ville Inc. (DMCI) executive director Daniel Allain is now turning his attention to helping establish the group's vision for a rejuvenated St. George Street -- a plan he is optimistic will come to fruition.

"I think this is something that is very easily doable and it's consistent with how the City of Moncton does business, it's a good plan," Allain said. "I'm really confident in discussions with the city that they certainly see the value of having a better utilized St. George Street."

An upbeat Allain, who narrowly lost in his bid to become the Conservative MP for Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe earlier this month, was at his familiar position with DMCI yesterday as the organization held its annual fall business meeting at the Moncton Press Club.

A main topic of discussion was the project to revitalize St. George Street into a vibrant and flourishing part of the city, based on the five-year implementation schedule that was submitted to Moncton city council for consideration last month.

The first two years of the conceptual plan are focused mainly on laying the groundwork for improvements, with a request for $75,000 in each of the first two years to cover engineering design and planning costs.

In 2011 and 2012 it is hoped major reconstruction of city blocks will begin, thanks in large part to annually requested sums of $350,000.

In 2013, the hope is to have the City of Moncton contribute $1.8 million to begin a major streetscape construction program that would cover another several blocks.


"I think it's less about the money, but more about the city recognizing that St. George Street is certainly an entity by itself, an entity within downtown that we have to improve on," Allain said. "A healthy St. George Street means a healthy downtown and a healthy downtown means great progress and great confidence."

Allain said even slight upgrades can have a big impact on the area.

"The municipal government really putting some money into something, it shows confidence. When governments show confidence, I'm telling you right now, the business owners and the property owners will come through. This is what Greater Moncton has been built on," he said.

The meeting also heard a presentation from Jim Sackville of BDA Landscape Architects, who described the group's vision and "four pronged" approach for the future of St. George Street.

The four major objectives DMCI wishes to accomplish are to improve the quality of the streetscape through trees, lighting and furniture; infill vacant lots with mixed use projects; strengthen the historic residential neighbourhoods and promote the St. George Street brand through implementation of a street festival.

"What we have now is a plan, a document that needs to be expressed and needs funding and ongoing support," Sackville said. "Once that is in place, we've seen it in Downtown Moncton, we've seen it all across the country; get the streetscape right and the activity will follow."

Allain and Sackville also fielded questions from members, many of which centred around concern over security in the area, in terms of 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 and drug activity. Allain mentioned that there is proposed money designated to addressing security issues on St. George Street. Through DMCI beautification projects and working with social agencies and the RCMP, he said they should be able to alleviate the problems.

Moncton Mayor George LeBlanc was also on hand yesterday to offer his support to DMCI.

"I appreciate the enthusiasm to bring St. George Street to become part of a more vibrant downtown. I hear and I understand your concerns," he told those in attendance at yesterday's meeting. --¦All the great projects in Moncton always start from the ground up."

Moncton city council will decide in what capacity they will support the initiative when they begin the budgeting process in December.

In the meantime, DMCI and its newly-returned executive director will continue to fight for St. George improvements and other major projects, like a new metro centre.

"I'm glad to be back to my job, I love my job," Allain said.

LeBlanc and others at the meeting also lent their appreciation for the fact that Allain is back in his position with DMCI, after his leave of absence to run in the federal election.

"I'd like to think that there is a silver lining in every cloud. Daniel (Allain), the silver lining for us is that we still have you in Downtown Moncton and we're very glad to have you here," LeBlanc said.
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City Grill offers new downtown vibe

Former Boomerang's location undergoes major renovation, rebranding

By Aloma Jardine
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Published Wednesday October 29th, 2008



Moncton has a new place to eat. The former Boomerang’s on Westmorland Street is now City Grill.

Those who knew the old Boomerang's will be hard-pressed to recognize any of it in the City Grill.

Executive Chef Luc Castilloux of City Grill cooks a steak on the restaurant's new charcoal grill.

Apart from the marble-topped bar, little in the newly renovated, newly named restaurant on Westmorland Avenue bears any relation to its previous resident.

"We pretty well gutted the whole thing," says owner Brett Judson.

Gone is the Australian-themed décor and in its place is refined modern style with black and white prints of various cities, the only nod to the new name.

The changes catch one's eye from the moment one walks through the front door.

The walls that once blocked the restaurant from view have been removed, creating a welcome, open space and the hardwood floors have been refinished and polished to such a shine that they look brand new.

Judson says they wanted to make the new restaurant, which quietly opened less than two weeks ago, a more social spot, so they included lots of space to accommodate larger groups of eight or more and have converted most of the seating to booths.

Judson says the most popular tables at the former restaurant were booths by the fireplace, so in addition to the more booths, they now have five electric fireplaces to give more people a shot at the best seat in the house.

The interior isn't the only thing that has changed.

Judson says they also put a lot of work into the menu, which has been pared down but offers a much greater variety.

While some Boomerang's favourites remain -- namely steaks and prime rib -- City Grill branches out to include more salads and seafood, as well as pizza and pasta, burgers and sandwiches.

Judson says the aim was to offer competitive pricing and good value as well as to increase the number of healthy options on offer.

"We have tapas platters now, more salads," he says, as well as half-sizes on all pastas and two sizes for salads. A nightly special for $14.95 makes it possible to get a meal including drink, tax, and tip for $20 or less.

Judson says they're putting a real emphasis on trying to use as many local products as possible in their meals.

"We're trying to buy as Maritime as we can buy," he says. "We're not going to be 100 per cent (local products) but as close as we can be."

They also make almost everything -- from sauces to bread to desserts -- from scratch, something that sets them apart from many chain restaurants.

"The only thing we don't make in house is probably our wing sauce," Judson says.

A gluten-free menu will soon be available and Judson says they're also working on a nutritional breakdown for every dish, so people who choose to can better evaluate their mealtime choices.

Judson says the restaurant business is a very competitive one and eating establishments are always trying to find ways to set themselves apart.

Besides the menu itself, Judson also invested in a lump charcoal grill -- the first in the Maritimes to his knowledge -- so all grilling is done over an open flame.

"It cooks at an extremely high heat so it sears the juice in," he says, making for much more flavourful meals.

"It's an old world way of grilling product. It's not briquettes, it's real hardwood."

Judson is also aiming to bring back Friday's happy hour, an institution he says has kind of gone by the wayside in recent years.

"On Fridays, we'll have half-price appetizers and house shots and wine," he says, and starting in November Thursday nights will be devoted to wine, with different wines showcased each week, paired with particular dishes.

"Wine experts will be here and walk us through the wines," Judson says. "But it will be as casual and relaxed as can be."

When Boomerang's first closed at the beginning of the summer, Judson wasn't sure he would reopen a restaurant at the Westmorland Avenue location.

Instead, he looked to the booming Trinity Drive area and even went so far as to try to sell the building.

"Our first choice was to stay in our own building, but the lure of the power centre was there," he says, adding if they had been able to sell the building, City Grill more than likely would have turned up across town.

But he's very comfortable with the decision to stay downtown.

"We have a fair size investment in our renovation. We believe in downtown," he says, adding downtown Moncton is still in growth mode, at least when it comes to restaurants, with a new Italian restaurant coming to the old Maverick's location and The Keg, which opened in June.

Although Judson says the arrival of The Keg was the "deciding factor" in the decision to renovate and rebrand Boomerang's, he doesn't seem to mind the new restaurant coming onto his turf, so to speak.

"The Keg is nice. It is competition, but it does bring people downtown," he says.

Judson says they continue to offer meeting and banquet space on the upper level of the building.

And for those who loved Boomerang's, the Australian-themed restaurant hasn't disappeared for good. As it did this summer, it will continue to operate seasonally on the Pointe-du-Chêne wharf, sharing a building with Captain Dan's restaurant.

n City Grill is located at 130 Westmorland Avenue and is open Monday to Thurdsay from 4 p.m. to 11 p.m., Friday from 11 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. and 4 p.m. to 1:30 a.m., Saturday from 4 p.m. to 1:30 a.m., and Sunday from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m.
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Since we are on the topic of restaurants now:

(1) Boston Pizza has reopened following their renovations.

(2) My son tells me that Don Cherry's is going to reopen under new management. Does anyone know if this is true or not?
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Well, I'm getting in on the discussion re: the new courthouse quite late (I was at work today - damn!!).

I must cast my vote with the lot who feel that the new rendering of the Justice Facility just doesn't cut it. I realize that it is a 2D render showing only one side of the building but there is something about the design that simply screams "early 1950's communist block".

They can do a lot better than this!!

Come on people, this will be a signature building for downtown! They can at least put decent windows in this structure.

The city was able to pressure Blue Cross into upgrading the facade on the expansion to the Blue Cross Centre a couple of years ago. Hopefully they will have some influence here as well!!
I agree they should put more effort into the design, however I still like it more than the 2005 version at the moment. Im assuming once a better render (3D) comes out, it will make it more appealing.
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Yeah, they have it on the radio like 24/7 that they are under new management and have new staff.
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The City Grill looks amazing...can't wait to try it.
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