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Old Posted Oct 25, 2008, 3:12 AM
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Campbell should disclose secret plan to jack transit fees, says NDP

VANCOUVER – Gordon Campbell should come clean about his secret plan to hike tolls and vehicle fees for Metro Vancouver residents, New Democrat Leader Carole James said today.

James was responding to a 2008 internal TransLink report, obtained by the media under Freedom of Information, which suggests TransLink should wait until after next May’s provincial election to push through new tolls and vehicle fees.

“It sounds like Gordon Campbell has a secret plan to jack up fees, but he doesn’t want the public to know about that plan before the election. Well, that’s just not acceptable. The public deserves to know if the B.C. Liberals want to implement new tolls and fees across Metro Vancouver,” said James.

James said that government should be working with local mayors and community leaders to develop a transit plan that is real, adequately funded, and moves people.

James added that just because Gordon Campbell’s ‘transit plan’ is largely unfunded does not mean he should start making decisions about hiking fees behind closed doors. “All decisions about public spending should be made through an open and accountable process,” said James.

“If Gordon Campbell is serious about improving Metro Vancouver’s transit system and road network, he would start by providing serious funding to improve public transit and reduce road congestion, not push through a secret plan to increase fees,” said James.

James noted that the Campbell government already has plans to hike the gas tax again if they are still in power after next spring’s election.

The gas tax, which the NDP has pledged to eliminate, is slated to rise to 3.5 cents a litre next July, although the premier’s top climate change advisor has called for the tax to be raised to 24 cents a litre by 2020.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2008, 3:57 AM
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Carole James should disclose secret plan to make more poor people says BC Liberals

VICTORIA – Carole James should come clean about her secret plan to hike welfare recipients and union enrollments for BC residents, BC Liberal Gordon Campbell said today.

Gordon was responding to a super secret 2008 internal NDP report, obtained by ninja spies under the Freedom of Information, which suggests the NDP should wait until after next May’s provincial election to push through new welfare bonus schemes and waterfront housing for the homeless.

“It sounds like Carole James has a secret plan to jack up support, but she doesn’t want the public to know about that plan before the election. Well, that’s just not acceptable. The public deserves to know if the B.C. NDP want to implement new socialist schemes across Metro Vancouver,” said Gordon.

Gordon said that government should be working with local mayors and community leaders to develop a plan that is real, and adequately funded.

Gordon added that just because Carole Jame's ‘plan’ is largely unfunded does not mean she should start making decisions about hiking welfare rates and minimum wage behind closed doors. “All decisions about how to use public money should be made through an accountable process,” said Gordon.

“If Carole James is serious about improving Metro Vancouver’s homeless problem, she would start by providing bus tickets home, not push through a secret plan to increase taxes,” said Gordon.

Gordon noted that the NDP opposition already has plans to hike welfare rates tax again if they are ever in power after any election.

The welfare rates, which the NDP have pledged to increase greatly, are slated to rise to 3.5% of GDP next July if the NDP win, although the NDP top socialist advisor has called for the rates to be raised to 24% of GDP by 2020.


I fixed all the typos for you.
My new sig should be the NDP loves poor people so much they are intent on creating many more of them.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2008, 4:28 AM
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I fixed all the typos for you.
My new sig should be the NDP loves poor people so much they are intent on creating many more of them.
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“If Gordon Campbell is serious about improving Metro Vancouver’s transit system and road network, he would start by providing serious funding to improve public transit and reduce road congestion, not push through a secret plan to increase fees,” said James.
Translation: Spending money = good. Finding ways to finance that spending (like user fees) = bad.
     
     
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Translation: Spending money = good. Finding ways to finance that spending (like user fees) = bad.
Tax the cars, not the transit.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2008, 6:42 PM
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I fixed all the typos for you.
My new sig should be the NDP loves poor people so much they are intent on creating many more of them.
Can't believe you actually spent the time to do all that. I like it =)
     
     
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i'm looking around here, but not seeing anything about how we're doing on the skytrain station renovations. anyone have any news?
     
     
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thats suppossed to be done in time for the olympics is it?
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I assume the lack of advertising and lack of crowds is simply "artistic liscence" in the rendering...
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2008, 6:58 PM
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Translink has issued a RFP for a study into cycling facalited in Metro Vancouver. Nothing to noteworthy in the acutal RFP but it shows a positive direction.

http://www.translink.bc.ca/files/procurements/Q8-0120_RFP_Regional_Bicycle_Plan.pdf

This in the final report by Bunt and Assc regarding a bike facility at Pacific Centre, lots of great info in it, I beleive I had posted an earlier copy. This one has the recommendations to Cadillac Fairview in them. Also has lots of info about future plans such as a redevelopment of the Sears building. Worth the read.

http://www.translink.bc.ca/files/procure...t_-_Bike_Centre_PC_Feasibility_Study.pdf
     
     
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Off topic - but interesting comments on London UK's Picadilly line in the "general" transportation sense. The Picadilly line receives $2 billion in government funding each year!

http://www.thestar.com/GTA/Columnist/article/527929
     
     
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Off topic - but interesting comments on London UK's Picadilly line in the "general" transportation sense. The Picadilly line receives $2 billion in government funding each year!

http://www.thestar.com/GTA/Columnist/article/527929
it does employ 1600 people, carries 529,550 passengers per weekday, 176.177m p/year (and its not even the busiest line!) and is longer than our entire skytrain system, not to mention its has drivers and attendants at every station, i'd expect it to cost around that much a year, particularly because the london underground is currently undergoing long term renovations, although stations still look like 🞵🞵🞵🞵 and its always delayed!!! (i think you can see i hate taking the tube every day...takes me about 40 minutes to go 9 stops to get to uni every morning...but cab takes even longer, so not a good alternative)
     
     
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Say bye-bye to trolleys

Translink Press Release:

October 31, 2008
Loading underway for “trolley export”

The journey continues over the weekend for 80 recently retired trolley buses from the Metro Vancouver transit system, as they are now being loaded onboard the freighter Wisdom, for the trip to Mendoza, Argentina, where they will be part of that city’s trolley bus system.
Loading at Fraser Surrey Docks began Thursday, and is expected to take until Monday, as each bus has to be towed from the staging area to dockside, hoisted gingerly into the hold, and then positioned using a forklift. It is expected that each eight-hour shift will be able to load approximately 10 buses.

The process has posed some interesting challenges for stevedores. Because the buses are made of lightweight aluminum and contain electrical motors and parts, lifting them by the sides would risk damaging the bodies. Instead, heavy bars have been placed under the front and rear wheels and hooks connected to the bars. Freighters are built to carry containers, which are eight feet wide, five-across. But the buses are 8’ 6” wide, so they don’t fit in that same pattern. They need to be secured, so as not to damage one another during the trip.

Once loaded, the Wisdom will sail for Valparaiso, Chile, where the buses will be loaded onto trucks for the 350 kilometre journey to Mendoza over the Trans-Andes Highway. The trucks with their cargo will have to negotiate the Cristo Redentor Tunnel, which runs three kilometres through the mountains at a height of 3,200 metres.

Mendoza, a city of 900,000 in western Argentina, has a trolley system that covers 75 kilometres of streets and currently has 45 trolébuses. On learning in 2006 that TransLink was about to replace its entire trolley fleet, Empresa Provincial de Transportes de Mendoza began negotiating to acquire them. EPTM is paying $2300 per bus, $700 more than the scrap value. EPTM is responsible for the shipping costs (which cannot be disclosed, under the agreement brokered by CTL Westrans) and for maintenance and restoration as necessary.

The buses have an average of 1.2 million kilometres’ service over the 26 years they have been driven around Vancouver. TransLink had 244 of the trolleys: the remainder – after the 80 going to Mendoza – have been decommissioned and scrapped, except for two, which are being restored by the Transit Museum Society www.trams.ca.

Editors: a photo, courtesy Jhenifer Pabillano of The Buzzer Blog buzzer.translink.ca, is attached. Suggested cutline: “A recently retired Flyer Industries bus is hoisted aboard the freighter Wisdom, to be shipped to a new life in Mendoza, Argentina.”

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^Check out my thread. I posted a bunch of photos of the trolleys being loaded.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=160133
     
     
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Robertson rides one zone too far
Ticketed candidate says $173 fine is unfair to low-income earners


Christina Montgomery, The Province
Published: Sunday, November 02, 2008

Vancouver mayoral hopeful Gregor Robertson says he has yet to pay a $173 fine for accidentally riding two SkyTrain zones on a one-zone fare because he wants to draw attention to what he calls unreasonably high fines.

The Vision Vancouver candidate was a Vancouver NDP MLA in June of 2007 when he was returning from a meeting in Burnaby a SkyTrain stop or two from Vancouver, he says.

Robertson, known as an avid cyclist, says that when he rides SkyTrain, it's normally in Vancouver's one-fare zone. After the meeting, hopping on SkyTrain for the first time in about six months, he automatically bought a single-zone ticket, he says.

Adult weekday fares at the time were $2.25 per single zone and $3.25 for two zones.

Robertson says that transit police checked tickets as the train pulled out of Burnaby into Vancouver and told him his ticket was inadequate.

Being in a fare-paid zone without a valid fare is a provincial offence.

Robertson says he told the officers it was "a dumb mistake" and paid an extra dollar immediately at a ticketing machine to upgrade his fare for two zones, but was surprised to see the ticket issued for the violation carried a $173 fine.

He told The Province yesterday that he has intended to use his hearing, scheduled for Dec. 4 in Vancouver, to draw attention to what he considers transit fines that are disproportionate to offences.

Noting that the fine is "173 times the mistake I made," he said his concern was for low-income riders for whom the fine would be costly -- particularly for those who had simply made a mistake while buying a ticket.

"I wanted to raise the issue of how big a fine it is for a one-dollar mistake," he said. "I bought a ticket and made a fare mistake . . . but the fine should be fair."

NPA mayoral candidate Peter Ladner told The Province yesterday that he has no outstanding fines of any kind.

Of TransLink's 173 million trips in 2007, 71 million were on SkyTrain. TransLink's overall fare revenue was $317 million.

TransLink estimates that fare evasion on SkyTrain is about 5.4 per cent. The 4.2 million unpaid rides across the whole system -- including SkyTrain and SeaBus -- cost the agency between $5.3 million and $9.5 million, TransLink says.

The likelihood of being ticketed is one per cent. In 2006, 30,000 tickets -- 82 per day -- were issued. Eight per cent of that ticket total, or 2,400, were paid.

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So does this mean if he is elected mayor I don't have to pay Property Taxes because they are unfair for low income earners? Honestly I was going to vote Vision, but I am not anymore. Not saying I will vote NPA, but I will not vote for him. Attitude reflects leadership. If your leaders are not willing to follow the rule of law, your citizens will not either.

What's next if he gets a speeding ticket he won't pay because he was only going a little over the limit? As a politician if he doesn't like the rules he should work at changing them not breaking them. The fact that he made a mistake wouldn't have changed my vote, but the fact he isn't owning up to his error has made me change my vote to Ladner now.



In other news, a senior had his wheelchair a bit too close to the tracks at Metrotown Station yesterday. He fell onto the tracks, was hit by a train, and amazingly survived with only abrasions, cuts, and a broken leg. If you ask me, the wheelchair that also fell on the track saved him.
     
     
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Just an little update, looks like the contract for the Waterfront Hub station was awarded to Steer Davies Gleave they are a pretty large global firm. Apparently there will be an update early in the new year.

Also forgot to mention this on Friday, they have installed 4 large flat panel TVs on the north side of the station at Waterfront, looks like they will install 4 more on the south side. They aren't working yet and are hanging lower then I feel they should, will be interesting to see them working.
     
     
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Robertson rides one zone too far
Ticketed candidate says $173 fine is unfair to low-income earners


Christina Montgomery, The Province
Published: Sunday, November 02, 2008

Vancouver mayoral hopeful Gregor Robertson says he has yet to pay a $173 fine for accidentally riding two SkyTrain zones on a one-zone fare because he wants to draw attention to what he calls unreasonably high fines.

The Vision Vancouver candidate was a Vancouver NDP MLA in June of 2007 when he was returning from a meeting in Burnaby a SkyTrain stop or two from Vancouver, he says.

Robertson, known as an avid cyclist, says that when he rides SkyTrain, it's normally in Vancouver's one-fare zone. After the meeting, hopping on SkyTrain for the first time in about six months, he automatically bought a single-zone ticket, he says.

Adult weekday fares at the time were $2.25 per single zone and $3.25 for two zones.

Robertson says that transit police checked tickets as the train pulled out of Burnaby into Vancouver and told him his ticket was inadequate.

Being in a fare-paid zone without a valid fare is a provincial offence.

Robertson says he told the officers it was "a dumb mistake" and paid an extra dollar immediately at a ticketing machine to upgrade his fare for two zones, but was surprised to see the ticket issued for the violation carried a $173 fine.

He told The Province yesterday that he has intended to use his hearing, scheduled for Dec. 4 in Vancouver, to draw attention to what he considers transit fines that are disproportionate to offences.

Noting that the fine is "173 times the mistake I made," he said his concern was for low-income riders for whom the fine would be costly -- particularly for those who had simply made a mistake while buying a ticket.

"I wanted to raise the issue of how big a fine it is for a one-dollar mistake," he said. "I bought a ticket and made a fare mistake . . . but the fine should be fair."

NPA mayoral candidate Peter Ladner told The Province yesterday that he has no outstanding fines of any kind.

Of TransLink's 173 million trips in 2007, 71 million were on SkyTrain. TransLink's overall fare revenue was $317 million.

TransLink estimates that fare evasion on SkyTrain is about 5.4 per cent. The 4.2 million unpaid rides across the whole system -- including SkyTrain and SeaBus -- cost the agency between $5.3 million and $9.5 million, TransLink says.

The likelihood of being ticketed is one per cent. In 2006, 30,000 tickets -- 82 per day -- were issued. Eight per cent of that ticket total, or 2,400, were paid.

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So does this mean if he is elected mayor I don't have to pay Property Taxes because they are unfair for low income earners? Honestly I was going to vote Vision, but I am not anymore. Not saying I will vote NPA, but I will not vote for him. Attitude reflects leadership. If your leaders are not willing to follow the rule of law, your citizens will not either.

What's next if he gets a speeding ticket he won't pay because he was only going a little over the limit? As a politician if he doesn't like the rules he should work at changing them not breaking them. The fact that he made a mistake wouldn't have changed my vote, but the fact he isn't owning up to his error has made me change my vote to Ladner now.



In other news, a senior had his wheelchair a bit too close to the tracks at Metrotown Station yesterday. He fell onto the tracks, was hit by a train, and amazingly survived with only abrasions, cuts, and a broken leg. If you ask me, the wheelchair that also fell on the track saved him.
i saw his interview on the noon news today - he made some reasonable points - why should someone who has a paid ticket be forced to pay $170 for a $1 mistake - it happens - not everyone caught in that situation is trying to fare evade
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It's no different then if you put $3 in the parking meter for 20Minutes and you come back 22minutes later and you received a full ticket. It might seem unfair that someone that didn't pay at all gets the same ticket you do, but that those are the rules and everyone should abid them.

Can you imagine if Translink would let you just upgrade when you're caught? That would result in a loss of millions/yr.
     
     
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