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[jlousa]

The fact it sold out helps but doesn't make it a sure thing, as the deposits on that project were low and makes it very easy for purchasers to walk away should the market continue deflating. I imagine the developers are planning on proceeding but at the same time are evaluating market conditions.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

is there a thread for the surrey outpatient hospital?

ANyway have passed it a couple times the last week or so and its not where people were saying its across the street the northeast corner not the southeast treed lot as speculated

Came across this:

http://www.kasian.com/#Work/Projects/Surrey%20Outpatient%20Facility

[jlousa]

The out patient hospital contract was neogitioned this week, I think the contract came in at $146Million. I beleive it's 150,000sqft.

[nickinacan]

Originally Posted by jlousa

The fact it sold out helps but doesn't make it a sure thing, as the deposits on that project were low and makes it very easy for purchasers to walk away should the market continue deflating. I imagine the developers are planning on proceeding but at the same time are evaluating market conditions.

Well of course nothing is a sure thing, but there is a demand for affordable places to live, which is why the pre-sale sold so quickly. Downtown living is out of the picture for many, and even the highrises in Brentwood are asking insane prices. I doubt that there was 800+ speculators lined up for the pre-sale. I'd say the chances of it being built are very favourable.

[sconadian]

I think theres another high rise condo set to go up in Richmond on No. 3 Road. Right next to the London Drugs on the corner of 3 and Westminster. The lot is vacant and I can only imagine that they'll put a high rise there

[geoff's two cents]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Came across this:

http://www.kasian.com/#Work/Projects/Surrey%20Outpatient%20Facility

Thanks for posting, officedweller.

I have to say that, while I the building looks nice enough outside and inside, I am more than a little disappointed in how suburban it looks - It's hardly the most efficient use of land, considering how close this plot is to what is supposed to be the region's "second downtown". Very low-rise, lots of parking lot. The building could definitely have a smaller footprint, especially next to what could some day be Surrey's (albeit inferior) answer to Stanley Park.

Assuming that anybody plans on following through with skytrain down Fraser highway (still very up in the air, I realize), presumably there would be a station here, and one would think they would want to use the land more efficiently so as to maximize residential density in the area in the future. I'm not asking for a skyscraper by itself in the middle of a forest - something in the area of 8-10 storeys would have been nice, with a parking garage to boot. Land at this location, right next to a large park, and one day well connected to transit, will likely be a lot more valuable than this design would lead anybody to believe. I think this area has genuine, but underrated, potential. Anybody with me on this?

Having said that, I realize that this "second downtown" talk is, for all of the positive things we've seen so far, still largely talk. Given that they're still building like this, I wonder if Surrey will be a "second downtown" in any of our lifetimes?

Not to entirely override the positive things that are happening in the city, of course. The very fact that healthcare is improving south of the Fraser, and that there is even talk of building a med school here, is cause for optimism.

[GMasterAres]

I believe the plan called for the entire project over time to increase in density. They have mentioned throughout that phase 1 this building, will have a lot of surface parking, but as future phases are constructed, the parking will move underground and the new buildings be higher density to meet demand and replace the parking space.

So basically they are starting lower/medium and increasing within the footprint. If that truely happens we'll see I guess, but if you look around the spot where teh outpatient clinic is being built, it is surrounded by 4 storey condo blocks so that area will NOT be high density anyway. So I don't think it will entirely be out of place. I would have liked to see some more capacity right away though to allow for future growth.

The Surrey Memorial area will be as large if not larger than VGH in the future and spread out hospitals in my opinion are a bit more difficult to manage and more difficult on patients.

[bils]

Originally Posted by sconadian

I think theres another high rise condo set to go up in Richmond on No. 3 Road. Right next to the London Drugs on the corner of 3 and Westminster. The lot is vacant and I can only imagine that they'll put a high rise there

more than just a highrise..... proposal is for FIVE highrises, a university, and community centre.

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by jhausner

The Surrey Memorial area will be as large if not larger than VGH in the future and spread out hospitals in my opinion are a bit more difficult to manage and more difficult on patients.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_General_Hospital

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_Hospital_and_Health_Sciences_Centre

I don't see that happening. I think it will get close but VGH is the 2nd largest Hospital in Canada and will only continue its growth. Also don't forget eventually the plan is for a 2nd Hospital in Surrey in Cloverdale. So that will take pressure off of SMH.

[sconadian]

Originally Posted by bils

more than just a highrise..... proposal is for FIVE highrises, a university, and community centre.

Wow. That sounds awesome. Are you sure they'll be able to fit 5 high rises on that plot of land? It didn't look that big. I'm talking about the space directly across the street from Boston Pizza at Akroyd Plaza on 3 Road

[nickinacan]

Originally Posted by sconadian

Wow. That sounds awesome. Are you sure they'll be able to fit 5 high rises on that plot of land? It didn't look that big. I'm talking about the space directly across the street from Boston Pizza at Akroyd Plaza on 3 Road

They would have to be some pretty skinny highrises to fit 5 in that area.I would say that 3 highrises there is really pushing it... unless the residents enjoy living in the shadow of another building...

[jlousa]

Okay I'm going to plead ignorance on this. I stumbled about a project called the falls "no relation to the Falls in Victoria". It looks like an incredible vision costing over $400Million in Chilliwack of all places. I'm really surprised I've never heard of it, it seems like something you'd expect in Dubai or Abu Dhabi. Just curious if anyone has some further insight on this project, the timing appears to be terrible.

The website is http://www.thefalls.com/index.php

Here's a pdf on the vision. http://www.thefalls.com/media/roadto2010.pdf

They even have a video.
http://www.thefalls.com/media/fallsvideo.mov

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by jlousa

Okay I'm going to plead ignorance on this. I stumbled about a project called the falls "no relation to the Falls in Victoria". It looks like an incredible vision costing over $400Million in Chilliwack of all places. I'm really surprised I've never heard of it, it seems like something you'd expect in Dubai or Abu Dhabi. Just curious if anyone has some further insight on this project, the timing appears to be terrible.

The website is http://www.thefalls.com/index.php

Here's a pdf on the vision. http://www.thefalls.com/media/roadto2010.pdf

They even have a video.
http://www.thefalls.com/media/fallsvideo.mov

thanks for the link I was wondering what was going on up there >> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=8341...-121.81499&spn=0.01805,0.041113&t=h&z=15


Cheers!

[mooks28]

Originally Posted by jlousa

Okay I'm going to plead ignorance on this. I stumbled about a project called the falls "no relation to the Falls in Victoria". It looks like an incredible vision costing over $400Million in Chilliwack of all places. I'm really surprised I've never heard of it, it seems like something you'd expect in Dubai or Abu Dhabi. Just curious if anyone has some further insight on this project, the timing appears to be terrible.

The website is http://www.thefalls.com/index.php

Here's a pdf on the vision. http://www.thefalls.com/media/roadto2010.pdf

They even have a video.
http://www.thefalls.com/media/fallsvideo.mov

Well, for starters, plastering the olympic logo all over this suggesting that somehow vanoc has endorsed it is a no-no (how long before the lawyers swoop in?). Secondly, the brochure itself looks like it was put together by someone in high schol. The whole thing looks pretty dodgy to me.

[officedweller]

Villa Casino (Canada Way near Willingdon) pics here:

http://www.pcl.com/projects/Active/2200604/photo_gallery.aspx

[sacrifice333]

Originally Posted by jlousa

Okay I'm going to plead ignorance on this. I stumbled about a project called the falls "no relation to the Falls in Victoria". It looks like an incredible vision costing over $400Million in Chilliwack of all places. I'm really surprised I've never heard of it, it seems like something you'd expect in Dubai or Abu Dhabi. Just curious if anyone has some further insight on this project, the timing appears to be terrible.

The website is http://www.thefalls.com/index.php

Here's a pdf on the vision. http://www.thefalls.com/media/roadto2010.pdf

They even have a video.
http://www.thefalls.com/media/fallsvideo.mov

Golf Course & Community... been in the making for a very long time. Who knows if they'll be able to achieve it... certainly not by 2020, maybe 2030 or 2050.

[vanlaw]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Villa Casino (Canada Way near Willingdon) pics here:

http://www.pcl.com/projects/Active/2200604/photo_gallery.aspx

I'm surprised at how small this is (not that that's a bad thing) - smaller than Cascades in Langley, which feels tiny when you are in it.

Boulevard - 80k sf
River Rock -70k sf
Starlight - 70k sf
Cascades - 50k sf
Villa - 40k sf
Edgewater - 30k sf

It's kinda sad to see how "addicted" to casino revenues the municipalities have become. I remember ten years ago when just the thought of slot machines didn’t go over well generally - now we have approx 340k sf of gaming space within 45 min drive of downtown. To put that in perspective - the casino at the MGM Grand in Vegas, which is the largest in Vegas, is approx 170k sf.

[jlousa]

Another suburban project put on indefinite hold.
This one is the one at 2962 Glen Dr and High St, on the gravel parking lot by the east entrance of Coquitlam centre. It was to be a 12 story 180,000sqft tower with retail and office space.

[Metro-One]

Well people in Vancouver are always crying about variety, so i think it is good we have more casino space. We also need more night clubs, 24 hour restaurants, amusement park facilities, festivals, etc... The idea of variety means that you will not like everything that is available personally, but what you dislike someone else enjoys.

[jlousa]

What Vancouver really needs to do is.... Realize what we have, how good it is, and stop trying to be everything for everyone.