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Old Posted Oct 5, 2008, 4:45 PM
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Why is the front face(best part) of this tower facing Mantua? Or better yet why is the back of this tower facing Center City.IN the grand scheme of things it probably no big deal but shouldnt This tower be spun around 180 degrees.



     
     
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2008, 8:08 PM
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Why is the front face(best part) of this tower facing Mantua? Or better yet why is the back of this tower facing Center City.IN the grand scheme of things it probably no big deal but shouldnt This tower be spun around 180 degrees.
I don't agree...I think it should face the prettiest part of Philly which is to the NW no doubt. I think the skyline looks the best from the angle...Comcast looks stubby from the South Street bridge, the city looks narrow from NJ...etc. I think it's made to welcome Pennsylvania to Philadelphia, since most of the state is to the NW.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2008, 11:53 PM
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Still not really a fan of the alternating glass and solid look of some of the facade. The '60s went down that road and ended up in Uglyville. Other that that, it's a great looking tower.
DITTO. That plus the garish colors of the panels reminds me of some 1960s housing project trying to inject some "fun" into the otherwise dreary architecture.

Plus, the spire as currently proposed is redunkulously awkward looking. Still, I like the tower's program, and its sky garden/plaza looks like an awesome place to spend some time.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2008, 4:22 AM
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Rendering from Philadelphia Buisness Journal
http://philadelphia.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/stories/2008/10/06/story14.html
Courtesy: Kohn Pedersen Fox



This building is definitely moving in the right direction. Very positive signs that companies (TD and GSK) are flirtng with using the ACC as an HQ.
Nice! I hope this building moves forward.

I thought Wachovia or Citizens Bank were rumored to be possible tenants(?) Given the current financial crisis I doubt that will happen.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2008, 3:22 PM
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If only Comcast looked like it does in that render in real life. I'm pulling hard for ACC, if only to take the focus off of Comcast, which IMO is a black eye on the skyline (from the North and South. I really like it on the East and West.)
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2008, 10:06 PM
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It would be so cool for Philly to have the tallest building in the U.S. even if it is only for a year or so before Freedom Tower and Chicago Spire were completed. But the ACC would have to break ground today for that possibility. Oh well.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2008, 1:18 AM
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It would be so cool for Philly to have the tallest building in the U.S. even if it is only for a year or so before Freedom Tower and Chicago Spire were completed. But the ACC would have to break ground today for that possibility. Oh well.
Heh, hate to be the spoilsport but uh, the tallest building would remain the Sears Tower in Chicago and also I think this building is not attractive at all. I mean, kudos to Philly for pulling off a 1000 footer proposal but I mean the top just looks awkward, like it should be more intricate but it's so basic and boring and corporate when there is so much more it could be doing. I think it's just trying too hard to be Cira Center.
     
     
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Swinefeld, is this the new render you were referencing?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2008, 8:22 PM
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^ Yes. Sorry for the delay but here is a better resolution of the night shot was a few more for your viewing pleasure.

Images courtesy of Walnut Street Capital.




FYI, there will be a City Planning Commission meeting on the American Commerce Center on the 21st of October at 1:00. When I find out the location I'll let you all know.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2008, 9:34 PM
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Though it is just academic at this point anyway CGII but the Sears tower is 1,454' and the ACC is to be 1,510'. Spires count and antennas don't. Otherwise the Petronas Towers would not be considered taller than Sears.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2008, 1:17 AM
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This building is phantastic. Thanks for posting the new renderings Swinefeld!!
     
     
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Wow.. I love it!!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2008, 12:36 AM
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I think it is going to be tough to get financing for this building with this damn ecomomy.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2008, 8:35 PM
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the spire looks like a sword
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2008, 11:31 PM
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What is the status on this tower?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2008, 3:36 AM
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It's still just a proposal. If it ever gets built, it won't be for several years due to the current financial situation.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2008, 4:09 AM
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there are some rumors goinga around capus that this building is much closer to being built then the info we have on his forum shows us. is it possible we missed something? or are the rumors unfounded?

btw... GO PHILLIES!!!!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2008, 4:13 AM
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there are some rumors goinga around capus that this building is much closer to being built then the info we have on his forum shows us. is it possible we missed something? or are the rumors unfounded?

btw... GO PHILLIES!!!!


Ugh....like from who?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2008, 11:07 AM
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there are some rumors goinga around capus that this building is much closer to being built then the info we have on his forum shows us. is it possible we missed something? or are the rumors unfounded?

btw... GO PHILLIES!!!!
Around Temple's campus? In general, or among architecture students?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2008, 4:30 PM
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It's a great looking, building, I hope it will be build some years from now,
in better financial times.
     
     
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