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Old Posted Sep 26, 2008, 7:33 PM
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i like the plan a lot actually! building a huge freeway from the get go will encourage leapfrog sprawling development, but letting the freeway grow at a proportionate rate to its surroundings will assure better-paced, gradual growth for development in the area. Awesome!
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What I'm really liking also is the BRT being built into the route between 27th and 62nd. I think that is an extremely important feature.



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What would be great is if the underpasses were built for only the BRT! Then that would really be the preferred mode of travel along that corridor!
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I like the overall design better then my thought of a 2 lane highway to start.

This does have a lot of redeeming features including the transit corridor that will be upgraded each time the MVC is upgraded. I think that this is probably the best feature of the project.
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To toll or not to toll: UDOT looks at options

Study examines how much proposed freeway would ease congestion for other routes, with or without fee

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_10575345

The proposed Mountain View highway would offer less traffic relief if motorists must pay a toll on it, according to a Utah Department of Transportation analysis.

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Old Posted Sep 27, 2008, 12:02 PM
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Metro - Park City - Options offered to unclog highway
Reversible lane and bus lanes are under consideration on S.R. 248


http://www.parkrecord.com/todaysheadlines/ci_10568598

A consultant hired by City Hall and state transportation officials next week will unveil ambitious options to ease traffic along the clogged S.R. 248 entryway, a set of ideas that could greatly alter what has become an annoying commute for droves of Park City workers...

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Metro - Highland/Alpine/Cedar Hills/Lehi - S.R. 92 work questioned

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700262157,00.html

Planned improvements along state Route 92 have some residents angry, while others are wondering about the cost...

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Metro - Bountiful - Light rail study begins for extension to Bountiful/Woodscross

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...Light rail, much like the TRAX system in place in Salt Lake County, seemed to be preferred because it could travel at greater speeds between Woods Cross and 400 West and 200 South in Salt Lake City, where the line begins

Whether light rail or street cars are chosen, the proposed route would travel the middle of the road from 400 West 200 South in Salt Lake City, turn onto Beck Street until it approaches North Salt Lake, then veer to the east side of Beck Street on a new frontage road. Through North Salt Lake, Woods Cross and West Bountiful, the line would travel north along U.S. 89 to State Road 106, then turn east to 400 North, following Main Street to Parrish Lane.

Stops along the 11-mile corridor have also not been finalized, but will likely be located at Eagle Ridge Drive and Center Street in North Salt Lake, 2600 South, 1500 South, 500 South, 400 North, Pages Lane and Parrish Lane. ...


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What would be great is if the underpasses were built for only the BRT! Then that would really be the preferred mode of travel along that corridor!
That would be a great idea. No need for signal prioritization when the BRT doesn't have any signals to deal with.
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To toll or not to toll: UDOT looks at options

Study examines how much proposed freeway would ease congestion for other routes, with or without fee

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_10575345

The proposed Mountain View highway would offer less traffic relief if motorists must pay a toll on it, according to a Utah Department of Transportation analysis.

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What idiots! They needed a study to show that people would choose alternate routes if the new road is to be a toll road?! This is obvious! They can never solve congestion! the freeway system is flawed and has been since it's first implementation. If they want to ease congestion they should toll those roads... Why didn't they use this same study on existing roads to see if that would ease the congestion?! It seems as though they want to build a new road for the sake of building a new road, and are doing what they can to justify it! It makes me sick! UDOT seems corrupt.

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Mountain View Corridor will be built in phases, new statement says

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700263113,00.html

A newly released environmental impact statement shows the Mountain View Corridor will be built in phases and the highway will initially have two lanes in each direction before expanding to four lanes in each direction....

...The final statement provides money for air filters along the corridor and offers to purchase land to move an elementary school that is close to the corridor.

...Originally the corridor did not have any public transportation but now there are plans for a designated rapid-transit bus lane.

The project is estimated to cost $3 billion. UDOT has $330 million to begin building. "We're still trying to see which piece will be built first. ... Whether it's 2100 North in Lehi or the piece in Sandy, we're still working through those things," Easton said.


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It seems as though they want to build a new road for the sake of building a new road, and are doing what they can to justify it! It makes me sick! UDOT seems corrupt.
Don't blame UDOT, they take direction from the Governor, the Legislature, the Transportation Committee, WFRC, etc and have to deal with the political pull of all of the local governments and special interests in the state, perhaps more so than any other government agency. They knew exactly what the results of this study would be, it is the Commission and Legislature that told them to do it. UDOT does see tolling as the only way to fund all of the road projects that will be required over the next 30 years, it is the elected officials who don't want to pull the trigger on the concept.
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There are four funding solutions:

1. Toll the road, build it all at once.
2. Raise the gas tax, build it all at once.
3. Build it in geographic sections.
4. Build the road partially.

It looks like they've selected 4 which is the best option (barring option 2), IMHO.

Option 1 is unpopular. Personally I feel it's a war on the working and middle class, creating a system of nice roads for the rich, and lousy roads for the rest of us.

Option 2 is unpopular. Unfortunately, it's the one that makes best sense. But Utah is certainly a tax revolt state.

Option 3 under-uses the highway. You can't get the full value out of the highway since it doesn't go anywhere.

Therefore option 4 works best. It's VERY proactive to leave room for a full build out. I think they've learned their lesson from Bangerter Highway.


I also REALLY like the roll out of mass transit in tandem. While I personally think BRT is a load of B.S. (I am really disappointed in MAX) ... it does keep detractors from trying to shut down the project, or claim it's too one-sided.

In all, I like it. Thanks for posting the graphs. I didn't know the Final EIS was out!

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What would be great is if the underpasses were built for only the BRT! Then that would really be the preferred mode of travel along that corridor!
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I also REALLY like the roll out of mass transit in tandem. While I personally think BRT is a load of B.S. (I am really disappointed in MAX) ... it does keep detractors from trying to shut down the project, or claim it's too one-sided.

In all, I like it. Thanks for posting the graphs. I didn't know the Final EIS was out!
I think that BRT could be more successful here since it would have a dedicated ROW. The new 35MAX line is basically just a fancy bus line, but I think that there are plans to eventually construct a dedicated lane for it on 3500 S. as well.

I also like the proposal on 5600 W. because it creates an easy ROW for light rail to eventually use.

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What would be great is if the underpasses were built for only the BRT! Then that would really be the preferred mode of travel along that corridor!
Its also important to note that even though they are proposed together, the BRT/Light Rail would NOT share an alignment with the new highway; BRT/Light Rail would be constructed along the existing 5600 W. corridor and the highway would be built somewhat west of it.
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Green alternatives - Cars that operate without fossil fuels gaining popularity

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700263987,00.html

Technology for electric vehicles is improving, and they may be more widely available as soon as next year, according to car dealers and consultants at the National Alternative Fuel Vehicle Day Odyssey on Friday.


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Conversions to natural-gas vehicles also are soaring, they said. With natural-gas prices in Utah currently at about 87 cents per gallon, drivers are snapping up any compressed-natural-gas vehicle they can find, and many people are converting their gasoline or diesel vehicle to run on natural gas alone, or to switch between natural gas and gasoline or diesel.

Electric vehicles have batteries that require charging for four to eight hours, at a cost of about $2, said Trevor Sears, sales manager of Silent Green Machines, a car dealership in Salt Lake City.


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Just a little update, since I live out by where the 4800 West Trax stop will be on the Mid-Jordan line.

Recently, they've been digging out a gully running along Old Bingham Highway and have been straightening it out by adding dirt and making it smooth.

Well... since it rained pretty hard on Saturday, all of it accumulated there and it flooded. So it looks like they're going to have to do a lot of that work over again.
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Draper hearing to focus on transit station district

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_10649169

The Draper City Council is scheduled to host a public hearing Tuesday on a proposal to designate 381 acres on the city's west end as a transit station district. That area stretches along the proposed FrontRunner extension to Provo and a commuter rail station could be placed in Draper. Council members could vote on the zone change, which would allow high-density retail, office and housing developments near the stop...

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speaking of draper.... the new D.M.V??.....awsome!!!! say good-bye to the 5hr. wait...although, i did wait for 1hr.1/2.....much inproved...
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