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How many people are there in magna?
I guess it's approx. 26,000 as of 2008.
     
     
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25k in Magna or so.. 75k in millcreek township (according to wikipedia).
     
     
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Hey jmonkey,

I'm not a big fan of that parking garage either, but I think it will look just fine after the street improvements and conversion of the first floor into retail space are implemented.

The location you have chosen for a theater presents some problems as far as loading and unloading of scenery and other theater equipment in and out of the theater.

I take it you don't like my renderings since you said you can't imagine that building serving as an entrance for the theater. I think it looks pretty darn good, and artsy, which speaks to theater people.

As far as living on the street. I don't think people would care to much about living next to a parking garage. It's the location that counts.
     
     
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I don't like the Regent Street location for the theater. City Creek will just be a continuation of the last 30 years in terms of pulling life away from the rest of downtown. I prefer the location on the corner of West Temple and 300 South. Much more visible, more of an existing restaurant scene, it adds to the liveliness of southern downtown, it is raw land that makes it much easier to develop and it eliminates a surface parking lot in downtown. Plus the 300 South Corridor is developing into a very walkable, alternative retail strip that has been absent in downtown since the 1970's.
     
     
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As someone who has been working at the Metro Building for 6 Months, I definently think it should be used as some type of arts or entertainment building. I get the feeling it dose not work very well as an office building. I actualy think a theater or a museum would be a perfect fit for that building. The posability of turning floors 1,m,2 and LL into a dance club has also crossed my mind, although I'm not sure if it would realy work.
The building has a very cool design that would perfectly compliment any type of arts district in that area. However, I do see a problum with the layout of the building. The main part of the 1st floor, along with floor M, is connected to the upper floors only by a service elevator, and emergency stairwell. The public elevator lobby connecting floor 1 to floors 2-5 is seperated from the main floor and the M floor is only accessible via the service elevator. The building has a very peculiar layout IMO. I don't know if this would present a problum with the theater idea or not.
     
     
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I think the southern part of the city is doing just fine as far a vitality is concerned. As cololi said, there is already a somewhat established restaurant district on 300 South, although many of them are chain restaurants. What will really make that area vital is more residential. Oh, and the 300 South option is not the corner parcel, but the parcel further west next to Squatters.

The location on Main Street is more visible than the 300 South next to Squatter's option; TRAX (which will eventually connect to the airport) goes right past the Main Street site. The locally owned restaurants on Main Street could use the extra foot traffic the theater would bring.

Having the theater and it's retail spaces within sight of City Creek Center will give those people visiting City Creek Center a reason to deviate from the project out into the real world. Once they are out, they are free to explore the rest of downtown, I think a theater will be vital to these two blocks south of City Creek Center. The Retail space that will then be owned by the city, can be rented out, continuing the retail options down Main Street. The rent then can help sustain the theater.

The Regent Street option also makes it possible to use RDA monies to help fund the project, whereas the 300 South option, like cololi said, is raw land, and makes it impossible to use these available funds. The regent street parking garage, along with the Walker Center and City Creek Center parking garages will be more than enough to accommodate those arriving by automobile to the Main Street location, whereas the 300 South option will likely create the need for yet another surface parking lot in Downtown. Those who want to use transit will find the Regent Street option more convenient since it's literally a hop, skip, and a jump away from the City Center TRAX station.

I agree that the Metro building is perfect for a museum or arts venue, in this case a Broadway-scale theater. Im pretty certain the reason the access to the upper floors seems peculiar is because of a later remodel that split the main level into two separate spaces. If the building is purchased for a broadway style theater, I am guessing this wall will be ripped out thus reuniting the two sides and reestablishing access to the elevators.

Could it be that City Creek Reserve Inc. recently bought the regent street parcel in order to make implementation of the theater in this location easier for the City? Not only would they stand to benefit, but I think the city would too.

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Urban boy,

You make some good points. I guess the biggest issue is that we built it downtown and we build it soon. Interesting, the RDA already owns the properties at 125 and 127 S Main and PRI and Suburban Land Reserve own the property north and east of those, so some sort of partnership could be in the works. I could see the church going into a 99 year lease with the city for the theater and the city subleasing it to the theater company. Given the cost, I must admit, that I don't see the City being able to afford this type of project right now without some sort of bond.

Perhaps the City will let the bond for the The Leonardo expire and try to get voter approval for a new bond for the theater?
     
     
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Cyclists get share of Salt Lake City street

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Salt Lake Mayor Ralph Becker rides along a new downtown bike lane Wednesday, a green stripe down the center of the outside lines on 200 South between State and Main streets. (Courtney Sargent, Deseret News)


Salt Lake City officials are hoping motorists and bicyclists will notice the new pavement markings — and each other — on a narrow section of 200 South.
A green stripe has been painted down the center of the outside lines on 200 South between State and Main streets, along with a white bicycle logo topped with two chevrons, designating them as "shared lanes."

"The purpose for that is to make drivers and cyclists aware that we are sharing that stretch of road," Mayor Ralph Becker said during a news conference Wednesday morning on the corner of 200 South and Main Street.


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Shopping: FICE Boutique hints downtown is the new Sugar House

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Clothing with a street art feel are on display at FICE, a new boutique at 160 E. 200 South in Salt Lake City. (Paul Fraughton/The Salt Lake Tribune)

Now that the old, funky ambience of Sugar House's boutique district is a hole in the ground, could some of downtown's older buildings be turned into interesting places to shop?
Judging from the ambience of FICE, a store featuring urban streetware, shoes, sunglasses and art, the answer to that question would be yes.


Store name » FICE.
Address, phone, Web site » 160 E. 200 South, Salt Lake City; 801-364-4722. The Web site is under construction.
Hours » Noon to 9 p.m., Monday through Saturday.
When established » April 4, 2008.
Backstory » Partners Laura Hadar, a professional snowboarder, and Corey Bullough, a recreational therapist, decided that Salt Lake City lacked a boutique with a big-city feel.
Owner's philosophy » "Build and promote community within the art and younger post-skate generation."
Specialties » Alife shoes, Oakley Frogskins sunglasses.
Price range » $20 to $200.
Description » This is an inviting space with black leather couches, two DJ turntables, high ceilings, hardwood floors and plenty of art on the wall. There is an outdoor stage in the back courtyard.


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Duo speaks for, maintains 15-story tower - Caretakers, building celebrate 25 years

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Building engineer Dan McGrew, left, and general manager Boyd McGee are celebrating the 25th anniversary of the 170 S. Main St. building. The two have been caretakers of the building since it opened in December 1983. (Chris Detrick/The Salt Lake Tribune )

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Shopping: FICE Boutique hints downtown is the new Sugar House

http://www.sltrib.com/features_ci_10491398?source=rv


Clothing with a street art feel are on display at FICE, a new boutique at 160 E. 200 South in Salt Lake City. (Paul Fraughton/The Salt Lake Tribune)

Now that the old, funky ambience of Sugar House's boutique district is a hole in the ground, could some of downtown's older buildings be turned into interesting places to shop?
Judging from the ambience of FICE, a store featuring urban streetware, shoes, sunglasses and art, the answer to that question would be yes.


Store name » FICE.
Address, phone, Web site » 160 E. 200 South, Salt Lake City; 801-364-4722. The Web site is under construction.
Hours » Noon to 9 p.m., Monday through Saturday.
When established » April 4, 2008.
Backstory » Partners Laura Hadar, a professional snowboarder, and Corey Bullough, a recreational therapist, decided that Salt Lake City lacked a boutique with a big-city feel.
Owner's philosophy » "Build and promote community within the art and younger post-skate generation."
Specialties » Alife shoes, Oakley Frogskins sunglasses.
Price range » $20 to $200.
Description » This is an inviting space with black leather couches, two DJ turntables, high ceilings, hardwood floors and plenty of art on the wall. There is an outdoor stage in the back courtyard.


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Oh I hope so! There are so many empty retail spaces downtown that I don't see why more people aren't opening their own shops downtown. I think this might be the first in a hand fool of stores that might start doing it. Its probably allot cheaper then it was ten years ago and lets face it there is ALLOT of vacant space to choose from
     
     
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I hope so too Justn, Also, I hope that the city is coming up with some creative ways of helping the retailers establish themselves downtown during the buildup.
     
     
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Shopping: FICE Boutique hints downtown is the new Sugar House

http://www.sltrib.com/features_ci_10491398?source=rv


Clothing with a street art feel are on display at FICE, a new boutique at 160 E. 200 South in Salt Lake City. (Paul Fraughton/The Salt Lake Tribune)

Now that the old, funky ambience of Sugar House's boutique district is a hole in the ground, could some of downtown's older buildings be turned into interesting places to shop?
Judging from the ambience of FICE, a store featuring urban streetware, shoes, sunglasses and art, the answer to that question would be yes.


Store name » FICE.
Address, phone, Web site » 160 E. 200 South, Salt Lake City; 801-364-4722. The Web site is under construction.
Hours » Noon to 9 p.m., Monday through Saturday.
When established » April 4, 2008.
Backstory » Partners Laura Hadar, a professional snowboarder, and Corey Bullough, a recreational therapist, decided that Salt Lake City lacked a boutique with a big-city feel.
Owner's philosophy » "Build and promote community within the art and younger post-skate generation."
Specialties » Alife shoes, Oakley Frogskins sunglasses.
Price range » $20 to $200.
Description » This is an inviting space with black leather couches, two DJ turntables, high ceilings, hardwood floors and plenty of art on the wall. There is an outdoor stage in the back courtyard.


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Ive been there... I stopped by before going to a summer concert at the Gallivan Center about a month ago. I about bought some awesome high-tops and old school Oakley sunglasses...
     
     
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Heh.. very interesting idea. I like it, and not just because you named it after me. jk
Wouldn't it be ironic to have the Broadway theater an ignorant farmer's blow's distance away from the old Promised Valley Playhouse?
Why couldn't they have made a new theater back there instead of a parking garage?? I give up.

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Key words: Salt Lake City, Downtown Salt Lake City, Broadway Theater, Broadway-scale Theater, Broadway-style Theater, Main Street, Regent Street, William Becker, Ralph Becker, Sandy, Tom Dolan, Proscenium.
     
     
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I like the idea of having all the major theater venues clustered around Main Street. With the Pantages across the street, the Capitol Theater right around the corner, it creates a nice theater district. Then the intersection of Main Street and 200 South along with Gallivan Plaza could be like Salt Lake City's Times Square. Next thing you know we'll be lowering a ball of time on New Year's Eve from the Walker Center's flag pole. Yaaaay! Im sure we could come up with something cooler though! We could even cover up the Walker Center parking garage with large electronic billboards! Of course Salt Lake City could get away with this, I mean if Sandy is "just like New York," than Salt Lake City would be comparable to, say... Tokyo? Yeah, it's just like Tokyo! LOL. What do they do for their New Years Eve celebration?


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I like the idea of having all the major theater venues clustered around Main Street. With the Pantages across the street, the Capitol Theater right around the corner, it creates a nice theater district. Then the intersection of Main Street and 200 South along with Gallivan Plaza could be like Salt Lake City's Times Square. Next thing you know we'll be lowering a ball of time on New Year's Eve from the Walker Center's flag pole. Yaaaay! Im sure we could come up with something cooler though! We could even cover up the Walker Center parking garage with large electronic billboards! Of course Salt Lake City could get away with this, I mean if Sandy is "just like New York," than Salt Lake City would be comparable to, say... Tokyo? Yeah, it's just like Tokyo! LOL. What do they do for their New Years Eve celebration?

I actualy quite like this. I hope this actually does happen.
And Sandy is New York! HA I hate Sandy I don't understand why people would live there and why a sky scraper would be built there, it makes no since what so ever.Theres no local shops, vacancy rates for the offices are higher than in the city and there is no attractions. No one goes to sandy besides people who live in Sandy. No one even likes the Mayor!
     
     
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speaking of Sandy's stupidity. . .

It won’t be a shopping center.
It won’t be an office park.
It won’t be high-rise residential living.
It won’t be a cultural center for the performing arts.
It won’t even be all of this combined.
It will be the Proscenium: a gathering place where all of this collides

Whats the difference between combining and colliding?!!!
P.S. this is from their website.
>>>>> http://theprosceniumsandy.com/?page_id=2
     
     
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How apropos

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speaking of Sandy's stupidity. . .

It won’t be a shopping center.
It won’t be an office park.
It won’t be high-rise residential living.
It won’t be a cultural center for the performing arts.
It won’t even be all of this combined.
It will be the Proscenium: a gathering place where all of this collides

Whats the difference between combining and colliding?!!!
P.S. this is from their website.
>>>>> http://theprosceniumsandy.com/?page_id=2
"Whats the difference between combining and colliding?!!!"

Well combining implies bring together to form a complete, functional whole, whereas, colliding implies an accident, crash or clashing. Seems appropriate word choice for what Sandy is attempting to do!

But perhaps that was what you were implying in your original comment!
     
     
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for those of you wondering....

I was looking through my plans for block 76 and ran across this....



The Amussen building facade will be located on block 76 on Richards Street just south of building no 7.
This post that Viperlord had over on the CCC thread just keeps calling me back. I wanted to bring it over here too. I was just imagining how many major residential,commercial and transportation projects are yet under construction, or have just finished around downtown. I can't imagine what it would be like to have to settle at this time for only one or two smaller to mid-size projects, as is the case in a couple of areas of this mountain forum or region. Can you imagine if we were to add all of the major projects onto the Salt Lake thread, how many there would be?
Looking at this drawing and how classy CCC is going to be, and realizing the kind of added retail and dining experience that's about to be added to our downtown is amazing, especially considering what some other downtowns in the mountain and western region offer.

Hey, even Park City alone has more going on in the way of construction dollars than many downtowns in the forum, and then there's the commercial, and transportation build-up that is ongoing or about to begin in the greater MSA. This is an exciting time and about to get even more so over the next five years.

It's going to be really something when we have more detailed renderings of all the different elevations of CCC. As big as just this one pictured above seems, it only represents a small fraction of the total of all the many other elevations about to start taking shape.

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I brought this classy project forward, to jog a few memories. Has anyone been by The Meridien to see how it has turned out? I think Viper asked the same question a few weeks ago also. I want to make it a point to check it out next time I'm downtown.

Meridien Condominiums - From VA Hospital to Luxury Condos



Historical Perspective :

The story of The Meridien begins in 1924, when the United States goverment selected Salt Lake City's north bench as the site for its new Veteran's Administration hospital. The building is neo-classical in its design, with elements that are purely Georgian in heritage. Veteran's Administration dignitaries and Salt Lake City officials commisioned the building on July 24, 1932. The hospital served the country continously until 1962, when its status changed to become part of the original Primary Children's Hospital campus and, later, Brigham Young Univeristy. The structure is graced by a variety of grand architectural elements, including symmetrical facade, cornices and parapets, and pedimented porticos. Garland embellishments on the tympanum frame a small, circular window, while keystones secure each window opening. The Meridien preserves and restores every detail of this building with meticulous care.

Veteran's Administration facts: The U.S. Veterans Administration Facility, located on 12th Avenue and "E" Street and an elevation of 4854 feet, on a reservation of 26.8 acres. It was dedicated on July 24th, 1932, to the care and hospitalization of ex-service persons. 104 beds for general medical and surgical cases. In addition it houses the Regional Offices for the State of Utah


One of the beauty spots of Salt Lake City is the Veterans Hospital with its magnificient surrounding park. Situated on the north foothills of Salt Lake City it affords an inspiring panoramic view of Salt Lake Valley surrounded by the majestic Wasatch and Oquirrh Mountains.

One of the beauty spots of Salt Lake City is the Veterans Hospital with its magnificient surrounding park. Situated on the north foothills of Salt Lake City it affords an inspiring panoramic view of Salt Lake Valley surrounded by the majestic Wasatch and Oquirrh Mountains.


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Deseret News Archives, by Duane Hilton
There was "caution" tape around a large hole in the floor, orange spray paint on the wall, bare pipes, and only a few windows had glass in them. But an ice sculpture that poured martinis, valet parking and tunes provided by members of the Utah Symphony hinted at what is in store for the abandoned hospital.
A sumptous party inside the old Veterans Administration Hospital in Salt Lake City's upper Avenues kicked off construction of The Meridien, a luxury development of condominiums being built within the shell of the old hospital.

The building's five floors and 80,000 square feet are being converted into 28 condominiums, ranging in price from $500,000 to $2.5 million. The Meridian will have a staffed concierge desk, gym and pool. Private elevators will drop residents off at their front doors.

Materials like granite will be used for countertops in the condos, said Richard Sheinberg, a managing partner of Pembroke Capitol Park, the company doing the construction.

Buyers will be able to customize many things. For example, a buyer has a choice between stone and hardwood floors, Sheinberg said. There are also several woods — cherry, maple and oak — to choose from.

"This is a magnificent location, and the architecture is outstanding," said Gary Felsher, a managing partner of Pembroke Capitol Park.
Construction on the luxury condos actually started in April of 2005, Sheinberg said.

They have ripped everything out of the interior of the building, including pipes, tiles, dividers, light fixtures and windows, Sheinberg said. Recently, work started on an underground parking garage.

While the interior is being completely redone, the exterior will be preserved, Felsher said. However, the exterior will be enhanced with balconies, he added.

Construction is scheduled to finish in 2008.

When the condos are finished, at least six of them will have people moving into them. That's how many have already been sold, Felsher said.

All six are in the million-dollar range, Sheinberg said.

When people move in, it will be the first time the building will have been regularly used since 1990. It closed its doors in 1990 as Primary Children's Hospital, said Bonnie Midget of Primary Children's Hospital media relations. It became Primary Children's in the mid-1960s. It was a veterans hospital for more than 30 years before that.

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