Sacramento Restaurants, Nightlife and Entertainment

[thekid@455]

Originally Posted by sugit

Check out the last page of "Sacramento Preservation/Adaptive Reuse Projects" for some photos and such. It's the brick building next door to Empire and R15 / Cafe Bernardo.

Here is the website as well:
http://www.1409r.com/

It was in the Bee a couple weeks ago that they have signed a specialty market and a cafe /deli as well.

D&S Development are developer/owners. I thought paragary's group owned the entire block -- from r15 all the way down to 14th? Anyhow, D&S did the adaptive reuse project at the Mechanics Bank Bldg in Old Sac, last year or the year before, and they hit a smart price point with a good project.

Long live Adaptive Reuse!

[goldcntry]

Originally Posted by thekid@455

Long live Adaptive Reuse!

You're just trying to make wburg swoon, aren't ya??

Back to food! (Unfortunatly my favorite subject). We need a modern Hof Brau/Buffet to go in 55o's now blank space. Serve upbeat, hip food buffet style, catering to the younger state employee and bank analyst...

[wburg]

What, exactly, is "upbeat, hip food"?

[TowerDistrict]

Maybe food that doesn't end your day at 3:00 and give you a heart attack at 45?

[Phillip]

Originally Posted by goldcntry

Back to food! (Unfortunatly my favorite subject). We need a modern Hof Brau/Buffet to go in 55o's now blank space. Serve upbeat, hip food buffet style, catering to the younger state employee and bank analyst...

I think of Jack's Urban Eats as sort of a modern take on the Hofbrau concept...fresh carved meats served cafeteria style in an informal setting. I don't know if a Jack's would work in the 55o space though. That's probably a tough location for any restaurant now...no walkby traffic after 5pm or weekends and limited parking. That 55o spot was a Bank of America branch when I first moved to Sacramento and I had my checking account there.

[Phillip]

Originally Posted by Pistola916

I would def. welcome an In & Out in the central city. I remember when I was young my mom would take me to the McDonalds on K street, that was a hoppin place.

I visited Sac over Labor Day weekend. I saw they were building a new In & Out next to IKEA in West Sac. Not quite central city, but they're getting closer.

If they ever build one in Downtown/Midtown they'd probably want to be right off the Cap City freeway. In & Out is almost always within a couple blocks of a freeway exit ramp. The one that Ozone posted in Fisherman's Wharf is an unusual exception.

"In & Out" isn't a very accurate name. It takes forever to get your food there. I think they're slow on purpose. The wait is part of the chain's mystique.

[Majin]

I'm good with an In and Out in the grid, keep that chain crap out of my hood.

[Phillip]

Originally Posted by Majin

I'm good with an In and Out in the grid, keep that chain crap out of my hood.

In & Out is a chain. Are you saying chain restaurants are okay in the grid as long as they're not near 800J?

Do you ever eat at that Afghan place almost across from 800J? I tried it once and thought it was pretty good.

[wburg]

Kabul Kabob is pretty good, it's a little spendy but I have hit their buffet once or twice. I liked the old India Restaurant that was there for years, but I don't miss the short-lived "Downtown Arena" restaurant at all (it always stank like an old mop.)

[Majin]

Originally Posted by Phillip

In & Out is a chain. Are you saying chain restaurants are okay in the grid as long as they're not near 800J?

Do you ever eat at that Afghan place almost across from 800J? I tried it once and thought it was pretty good.

I meant I DONT want in & out in the grid, I know its a chain.

Are you talking about that place on the corner of 8th and J? Kabul something? If so, no I've never ate there.

[Phillip]

Originally Posted by Majin

I meant I DONT want in & out in the grid, I know its a chain.

Are you talking about that place on the corner of 8th and J? Kabul something? If so, no I've never ate there.

You don't want chain restaurants Downtown but you won't try the independent family owned restaurant that's across the street from you? You are hard to figure out, Majin. Or maybe you just don't like restaurants?

Originally Posted by wburg

Kabul Kabob is pretty good, it's a little spendy but I have hit their buffet once or twice. I liked the old India Restaurant that was there for years, but I don't miss the short-lived "Downtown Arena" restaurant at all (it always stank like an old mop.)

It's probably been a year since I had lunch at Kabul. I think the buffet was only at dinner then. I'm glad to hear they're still in business. Sorry I missed the place that stank like an old mop.

[Majin]

Originally Posted by Phillip

You don't want chain restaurants Downtown but you won't try the independent family owned restaurant that's across the street from you? You are hard to figure out, Majin. Or maybe you just don't like restaurants?

Just because I happen to not have tried this one particular restaurant, I don't support independent family owned restaurants? Talk about extreme.

[Phillip]

I singled out Kabul Kabob because it's so close to 800J, like across the street. Since you're an enthusiast for locally owned non-chain restaurants I'm just surprised you haven't tried it once, since it's so convenient.

Now if you had said "I don't like Afghani food" that would have been a good reason.

Here's Kabul Kabob's dinner menu:

http://www.kabulkabobcuisine.com/menu.htm

It seems the buffet is at lunch, not dinner, like I wrote above. I must have been there for dinner then. I missed the buffet anyhow.

Is there a restaurant Downtown that you like?

[Majin]

No particular reason (I don't mind eating any kind of food, although I don't usually eat Afghani food), just happen to have not gone to that place yet. I have gone to Sakura directly across to street though and the sushi there is decent (sometimes). Zen Sushi on 15th and I is much better though, in my opinion the best sushi/japanese place in the grid. There are a lot of restaurants I like, tell me what kind of food and I'll tell you the place I think is best.

[Phillip]

I haven't beent to Zen Sushi. Next time I come to Sac I'll go there and look for you. That is if I have any money left. Down 450. UGH.

[Majin]

You think you're bad off? I own AIG.

[Phillip]

That's nothing, Majin. I'm Phillip Lehman.

[urban_encounter]

Originally Posted by Majin

Zen Sushi on 15th and I is much better though, in my opinion the best sushi/japanese place in the grid. There are a lot of restaurants I like, tell me what kind of food and I'll tell you the place I think is best.

I tried Zen on your recommendation and it tasted like every other sushi place in and outside the grid, that dumps sauce all over their sushi.

Bottom line (nothing special)

[Majin]

Originally Posted by urban_encounter

I tried Zen on your recommendation and it tasted like every other sushi place in and outside the grid, that dumps sauce all over their sushi.

Bottom line (nothing special)

Then you obviously haven't been to every sushi place in and outside the grid because I've been to a lot of places where the sushi tastes like complete ass (most of which are outside the grid). If they are dumping sauce all over your sushi you are not even ordering the right stuff. I myself only eat sashimi and nigiri. Those exotic rolls with all that shit on it just delutes the taste of the fish.

[urban_encounter]

Originally Posted by Majin

Then you obviously haven't been to every sushi place in and outside the grid because I've been to a lot of places where the sushi tastes like complete ass (most of which are outside the grid). If they are dumping sauce all over your sushi you are not even ordering the right stuff. I myself only eat sashimi and nigiri. Those exotic rolls with all that shit on it just delutes the taste of the fish.

Yeah I'm a big fan of the sashimi myself. For the record Taylors market will slice ahi for you (for sashimi) and their honest enough to tell you if it wouldn't make good sashimi.

Personally i still prefer Kru on J street.