The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread

[kwajo]

Originally Posted by PersonPlaceorThing

I read a CBC article on the basement flooding that happened on Mountain Road. People are blaming the road work that was recently completed on the street.

I grew up in Forest Hills and know many basements have flooded for many years before the Mountain Road road work.

The most interesting part of the article is that the city's engineering department is working on a flood mitigation and rain water storage plan. I know of a few sites in east Saint John that exist to collect rain water - it will be interesting to see where this goes.

To toot my own horn/project a bit , the Marsh Creek Restoration Initiative (mentioned before in this thread) not only includes measures to increase floodwater capacity, but specifically outlines both where these retention ponds can be built and how they can be integrated into active transport routes, eco-tourism developments and habitat improvements. I can tell you that some of these projects are very close to fruition, and the MCRI plans have already been endorsed by Common Council, so hopefully we'll see something on the ground in the next couple years. Maybe then we'll not only have better control of rainfall, but you'll be able to walk through and enjoy these natural areas, not just thank them from afar for keeping your basement dry.

All this being said, 143 mm in under 12 hours was a freak occurrence, and no amount of flood control measures will stop flash floods from occurring in a storm like that.

now that, I was not aware of.....learn something new everyday....

Yeah apparently it's part of the same international laws (cabotage) that prohibit a Canadian airline from taking off in the US, landing in Canada to pick up passengers, then land again at another US destination, as it would then constitute a domestic flight. It's complicated stuff, but if it benefits Saint John, then I'm all for it

[kwajo]

Originally Posted by Seely32

I completely agree the amount of business that would be produced if even 10 ships spent one night in the harbour would be astronomical and would boost our economy and create more jobs.

Also on the princess st. renovations I have been asking people and emailed some councillors on the progress of this but I have heard nothing. Which is quite sad because in all reality this was the project I was looking the most forward too. That entire street done up to charlotte would do great thins for the business there.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has been trying to find out about the Princess St. work!

Now if only we could find out why it hasn't started yet....

[PostModernPrometheus]

some interesting energy related stories today on the news889.com site:


Could A Lepreau 3 Be In NB Power's Future?

http://www.news889.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20080911_053723_4588

[PostModernPrometheus]

Originally Posted by PostModernPrometheus

some interesting energy related stories today on the news889.com site:


Could A Lepreau 3 Be In NB Power's Future?

http://www.news889.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20080911_053723_4588

it seems a little premature to be touting a third nuclear reactor (i.e., the feasibility study on the second reactor is not yet completed), but it does speak to a degree of interest in promoting the "clean" (non fossil fuel) energy agenda

[PostModernPrometheus]

Originally Posted by Downtown Bolivar

As a child my image of retail on the West Side was Biway and Kmart. Glad that's changing for the better.

ahhhh times they be a changing! hope you got some old photographs of that kind of scenery for future comparison, cause it's starting to look like "extreme makeover - west side SJ edition" time

[thefishingnut]

Originally Posted by PostModernPrometheus

some interesting energy related stories today on the news889.com site:


Could A Lepreau 3 Be In NB Power's Future?

http://www.news889.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20080911_053723_4588

A 3'rd reactor in his vision is fine, I also hope a farm of wind turbines and fields of solar panels are also in the vision for the Lepreau property. There's a lot of space there to give a prudent buffer from the N plant, using it for alternate energy sources would be appropriate. As would some tidal turbines. That yellow smoke stream of crud coming out of Coleson Cove is something it would benefit everyones health to have turned off sooner than later, in addition to greenhouse emission value.

[mylesmalley]

Originally Posted by thefishingnut

A 3'rd reactor in his vision is fine, I also hope a farm of wind turbines and fields of solar panels are also in the vision for the Lepreau property. There's a lot of space there to give a prudent buffer from the N plant, using it for alternate energy sources would be appropriate. As would some tidal turbines. That yellow smoke stream of crud coming out of Coleson Cove is something it would benefit everyones health to have turned off sooner than later, in addition to greenhouse emission value.

Wow. That'd be great if it actually happened, but have they even signed the contract on the second one yet?

[thefishingnut]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Wow. That'd be great if it actually happened, but have they even signed the contract on the second one yet?

Don't think so - the article refers to the feasibility study for number 2 being completed, and he (Bishop) wants to move forward on that. So presumably the feasibility study says it should be done, and they go into government process for partnering/funding, environment regulations, etc. as the next step(s).

[Helladog]

Three Projects from My Balcony

Anyone know what this is?



Bayside



SJ Transit



Photos: Helladog

[Helladog]

[Sabien]

Originally Posted by Helladog

Three Projects from My Balcony

Anyone know what this is?



Photos: Helladog

A few weeks ago I saw them placing orange markers in that lot beside the causeway. I haven't driven by since then. I'm excited to see something happening there even though it probably won't be something to get excited about. I grew up very close to that end of the causeway. The large brick building on the right was my elementary school (East Saint John Elementary - its now a private school owned by the church to the left). Thanks for this photo...its like a walk down memory lane. I'm curious to find out what it might be.

[kwajo]

Originally Posted by Sabien

A few weeks ago I saw them placing orange markers in that lot beside the causeway. I haven't driven by since then. I'm excited to see something happening there even though it probably won't be something to get excited about. I grew up very close to that end of the causeway. The large brick building on the right was my elementary school (East Saint John Elementary - its now a private school owned by the church to the left). Thanks for this photo...its like a walk down memory lane. I'm curious to find out what it might be.

That area next to Courtenay Bay in Helladog's photo is going through site remediation and being turned into a green space by Irving (can't remember which one exactly) and banked for the future. As part of the project, the building that ALERT used to be in is also being removed and the green space/park will pass underneath the causeway to where the Irving Lubrications plant is.

In the same photo you can see that the old school is starting to have scaffolding erected on the north side. Does anyone know what is being done to the building?

[PersonPlaceorThing]

As reported in the TJ today (http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/city/article/413074):

SAINT JOHN - An information session on a housing project planned by the Church of St. Andrew and St. David, for the corner of Duke and Charlotte Streets, will take place Tuesday, Sept. 16 from 7 to 8 p.m. at the church hall.

Preliminary drawings and plans for Abbey St. Andrew, which already has the approval of the city's Heritage Development Board, will be on display. Directors from the church's housing committee will be available to discuss what is intended for the 91 units of mixed income housing to be built on site which is behind the historic church at 164 Germain Street.

The church is still seeking advice on whether it has to take the project to the city's Planning Advisory Committee, but the preliminary finding is that it is not necessary because the land is already zoned for the use intended by the church, said Bill Thomas, minister at St. Andrew and St. David.

The plan envisions eight townhouses fronting on Charlotte and Duke streets, built in a style similar to homes on Horsfield and Duke streets. The major block of mixed income apartments are proposed for the interior area of the site.

An interior walkway will link this apartment block to additional apartments set back from the street above the Charlotte Street townhouses. Surface parking, underground parking and secure bicycle storage are planned for the site as well as a play area and green space for young children.

Following the presentation by the housing committee there will be time to discuss the project with the directors over coffee and light refreshments.

The church is hopeful it will break ground on the project in early December and open the doors before the end of 2009.

[PostModernPrometheus]

Ambitious Energy Goal Can Be Reached

September 12, 2008 - 5:45 am
By: Denise Barkhouse News 88.9 Staff

SAINT JOHN, NB - The president of the Atlantica Centre for Energy says the province can eliminate fossil fuels by 2026 if nuclear is included as a source of energy.

*sic*


link: http://www.news889.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20080912_054542_15120

[PostModernPrometheus]

Originally Posted by PersonPlaceorThing

As reported in the TJ today (http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/city/article/413074):



The plan envisions eight townhouses fronting on Charlotte and Duke streets, built in a style similar to homes on Horsfield and Duke streets. The major block of mixed income apartments are proposed for the interior area of the site.

An interior walkway will link this apartment block to additional apartments set back from the street above the Charlotte Street townhouses. Surface parking, underground parking and secure bicycle storage are planned for the site as well as a play area and green space for young children.

The church is hopeful it will break ground on the project in early December and open the doors before the end of 2009.

This project sounds fabulous....both in terms of function (further increasing population density in the uptown core) and form (not just a shoebox building)....can't wait to see some renderings....

[PostModernPrometheus]

Originally Posted by kwajo

That area next to Courtenay Bay in Helladog's photo is going through site remediation and being turned into a green space by Irving (can't remember which one exactly) and banked for the future. As part of the project, the building that ALERT used to be in is also being removed and the green space/park will pass underneath the causeway to where the Irving Lubrications plant is.

i hadnt heard of this prior to today...are there any plans to do any major landscaping / terracing on the site? (i think of other greenspace parks going up around the city, ie: the three sisters park....)

they're going to go underneath the causeway??? tunnelling under the causeway sounds very expensive....any idea what the long term thinking behind this is???

[kwajo]

Originally Posted by PostModernPrometheus

i hadnt heard of this prior to today...are there any plans to do any major landscaping / terracing on the site? (i think of other greenspace parks going up around the city, ie: the three sisters park....)

they're going to go underneath the causeway??? tunnelling under the causeway sounds very expensive....any idea what the long term thinking behind this is???

I'm not sure what they're planning on precisely, but I think it includes an ecological buffer (wetlands, tree-lines, etc.) between the refined oil products terminal and the adjacent roadways.

Also, they don't actually need to tunnel underneath the causeway, as there is an existing raised portion at both ends to allow rail traffic to pass beneath the road. I apologise that I didn't word things well in my initial post, I can see how I made it seem like there would be some digging involved. If you check out the aerial photos at maps.live.com, you can see exactly what I'm referring to, and even see the shadow of the raised portion on the tracks below.

[thefishingnut]

Originally Posted by PostModernPrometheus

Ambitious Energy Goal Can Be Reached

September 12, 2008 - 5:45 am
By: Denise Barkhouse News 88.9 Staff

SAINT JOHN, NB - The president of the Atlantica Centre for Energy says the province can eliminate fossil fuels by 2026 if nuclear is included as a source of energy.

*sic*


link: http://www.news889.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20080912_054542_15120

lol - a relief to know he can read online news sites. Too bad he missed NB building Point Lepreau, I think they also reported that in the news. I sure hope he didn't hold a press conference to share his earthshattering news. Any substance to the rumour he is going to hold a press conference next week proposing a hydro plant be built on the Saint John River at Mactaquac?

[davehook_729]

Originally Posted by PostModernPrometheus

Ambitious Energy Goal Can Be Reached

September 12, 2008 - 5:45 am
By: Denise Barkhouse News 88.9 Staff

SAINT JOHN, NB - The president of the Atlantica Centre for Energy says the province can eliminate fossil fuels by 2026 if nuclear is included as a source of energy.

*sic*


link: http://www.news889.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20080912_054542_15120

I think if Saint John wants to be a REAL energy hub, they should just go balls out and build a mini Hadron Collider and sell the energy produced to the rest of North America! We'd be richer than Dubai!

[PostModernPrometheus]

Originally Posted by davehook_729

I think if Saint John wants to be a REAL energy hub, they should just go balls out and build a mini Hadron Collider and sell the energy produced to the rest of North America! We'd be richer than Dubai!

ya...but what about the black holes it creates?!?!?!

lmao


http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/24/large-hadron-collide.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/09/scicern109.xml