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Old Posted Jul 29, 2008, 9:06 PM
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There is a cool article in the new SacTown magazine about the Firestone building development, but they didn't mention a timeline...does anyone know? It seems like the framework is taking a long time...and rightfully so I guess considering the shape of the builidng.
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There is a cool article in the new SacTown magazine about the Firestone building development, but they didn't mention a timeline...does anyone know? It seems like the framework is taking a long time...and rightfully so I guess considering the shape of the builidng.
Actually the timeline is briefly mentioned in there. Sometime in November, they expect. Restaurants usually take longer to open than they plan, of course, but that's what they're shooting for. Should be very cool.
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There is a cool article in the new SacTown magazine about the Firestone building development, but they didn't mention a timeline...does anyone know? It seems like the framework is taking a long time...and rightfully so I guess considering the shape of the builidng.
Oh, and that's just for Mason's new place. Not sure about the others...
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I thought Good Eats was going to go in the old Andiamo location on Folsom east of Alhambra?
Looks like they are still going into that location.

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I thought so too....maybe two locations.
Yep, 2 locations and they are looking for a 3rd location midtown.


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By next spring, Teel and Ashker plan to transform the Corti Brothers site at 5810 Folsom Blvd. into the second store in their gourmet mini-chain, to be called Good Eats. Their first location, a market-bistro in the Andiamo building at 3145 Folsom Blvd., is scheduled to open late this year. A third store is planned for an undisclosed site in midtown.
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Art: That music of the night
Midtown's monthly Second Saturday Art Walk has become an earful as well as an eyeful
By Rachel Leibrock - [email protected]
Published 12:00 am PDT Friday, August 8, 2008
Story appeared in TICKET section, Page TICKET8

It's a hot and muggy evening at 20th and J streets in midtown Sacramento, and the streets are literally vibrating with noise.

A rock band is playing on one corner and, directly across the street, a three-piece is working its way through a blues set.

Meanwhile, just around the corner, H. Letham, a five-piece indie rock band, has drawn a crowd in front of the 20th Street Gallery.

As the band launches into a song, the vibe is a bit chaotic. As hordes of people wander the streets, streaming in and out of galleries, there's music blasting from every direction. Unless you're standing directly in front of a band, it's hard to tell just who's making what noise and where.

In the past year, as Second Saturday has evolved from a pleasant monthly outing into a full-blown cultural phenomenon, so has its music scene. Every month, more galleries, shops and restaurants set up sound systems and invite artists to perform. The result is a street fair atmosphere – and a new citywide effort to regulate the party.

Meanwhile, Sharameek Williams loves every minute of it. The 33-year-old Rancho Cordova resident, who has journeyed into the grid for the evening, is taking in the sights and sounds.

"I just walked down here from the Capitol and got to hear some jazz and now there's this," Williams says, watching as H. Letham's guitarist as he leaves the makeshift stage and moves through the crowd, still playing his guitar.

"The music draws people," she says. "You can get out, see some art, listen to some music, it's really nice."

SaraJane, owner of the SaraJane & Co. art gallery, agrees.

Second Saturday's recent music explosion, she says, is a long-overdue experience.

"Other cities have stuff like this going on all the time," says SaraJane, who added live music to her Second Saturday events immediately upon launching her 21st Street gallery in November.

"When we opened, we did it from the perspective of individuals who frequent Second Saturday – we tried to produce something we would enjoy," she says.

Still, SaraJane says, she's more than a little surprised by just how many galleries have followed suit in recent months.

"All of a sudden it just blew up, and it seems like everyone is doing something."

Over at the 20th Street Gallery, co-owner Joanie Pope Ferry thinks adding a band or artist to the evening makes sense.

"Music is just another art form, and it gives artists another venue to show off what they do," she says. "And, for people in the community, it's just another part of the entertainment."

Autumn Sky, a Folsom- based singer-songwriter, brought her guitar to the Crepeville patio on the corner of 17th and L streets. She's playing with her friends in the bands Transporter Rabbit and calls the event "one of the best shows I've ever had downtown."

"There are a lot of people coming by who are interested in music and art, you just get such good exposure," says the 19-year-old musician.

It's not Sky's first such gig; she's also played Second Saturday shows at the True Love Coffeehouse and the Tangent Art Gallery.

The appeal, she says, is playing to people who may never hear her music otherwise.

"These shows have done what I hoped they would," she says. "I get a lot of adds on MySpace; some people have even ended up coming out to my other shows."

Just down the street at the Bows & Arrows vintage boutique, Mark Badovinac, 37, is observing the scene. Badovinac's band, the Polymers, just finished a set and now the members of Hearts & Horses, an electonica indie pop duo, are setting up while people swirl through the store, looking at the art and browsing through clothes and furniture.

Behind the band, girls move in and out of the dressing rooms, trying on vintage dresses, modeling them for friends.

"There's a real benefit to these shows," Badovinac says. "You get exposed to people who might not come out to see you at a club like Old Ironsides or the Fox & Goose – I really like that more places are doing this."

But when is good too good?

Joanie Pope Ferry worries that the scene is, perhaps, getting too crowded.

"I walked around in shock this month. There were bands on every corner, setting up and playing," she says.

"If you've got too many bands playing at once (on the street) it's just noise – it should be limited to just one band per block."

Rob Kerth, executive director for the Midtown Business Association, also recognizes the potential for chaos and complications.

But, he says, "it's a great problem to have."

"We've got a whole bunch of folks coming in to put on a show and have an audience," he says. "There's a lot going on in midtown and people just want to be a part of it."

Nevertheless, Kerth says, his office has fielded anxious queries from both gallery owners and patrons.

"There is the concern that this is getting to be too much of a good thing," he says.

"We want to spread it out a bit – we don't want to have bands playing on top of each other on the street."

One action has already been put in place to address the issue.

In July, the City of Sacramento's Parks and Recreation Department started enforcing a requirement that any business or individual playing amplified sound – be it music, spoken word, etc. – must obtain a one-day special-events permit.

Parks and Recreation superintendent Teresa Jackson says it's not a new rule – just one that's been updated to address Second Saturday's ever-growing popularity.

"Second Saturday really took off this year," Jackson says. "This was done to make things go a little more smoothly."

The free permit program, implemented in June, is meant to streamline the system. The process includes filing out an application and submitting to a drive-by location inspection.

"We've always required that businesses that have amplified sound get an annual entertainment permit," she said.

"But that involves so many requirements, such as inspections and occupancy load issues," she says. "The special-events permit is for businesses that only do such events once a month."

In July, 13 businesses obtained the one-day permit. In August, that number rose to 15. So far, Jackson says, permit enforcement has been "light."

"If we see a corner with two bands playing, we'll just ask one of them to move," she says. "If they don't have a permit, we're not going to just shut them down but we'll probably ask them to relocate to an area where there's not already music happening."

For SaraJane, it's a good fix for a good predicament.

"I agree that the music needs to be spaced out but, really, there's no downside to any of this," SaraJane says.

"I like to listen to music, walk around, see people and enjoy the music," she says. "I like to have a little fun with my art."


Headed out for some Second Saturday art fun?

Here are a few places hosting live music this month.


20th Street Art Gallery

911 20th St., Sacramento

Art from Rod Swenson and live music with Pan Human.

6 p.m.

For more information: www.20art.net or

(916) 930-0500


Bows & Arrows

1712 L St., Sacramento

Art from the Asbestos Press and Johnny Flores; live music with Their Horses

6 p.m.

For more information: www.myspace.com/bowsandarrows1712lst or

(916) 444-3606.


SaraJane & Co.

908 21st St., Sacramento

Art from Bad Otis Link, live music with Jason Welt, Times of Desperation and Large Hairy Beast.

6 p.m.

For more information: www.sarajaneandco.com or (916) 446-8985.
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Hmmm maybe besides looking and hearing, people should also bring their wallets to support these artists, because quite frankly, many artists have been in the trenches of second saturday for over 15 years trying to at least pay for the expenses of their product. At the same time, these galleries charge up to 50% commission on the artists work, because they have their own problems with staying solvent. Then you have every coffee joint and yoga wellness center claiming that they can provide artists with similar services and charge almost as much. What I'm alluding to are some other problems that might even be more serious than what might happen due to overcrowding and horrid music layered over even worse music.
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It was nice to see Midtown lively with lots people walking and biking about early in the day leading up to Second Saturday.

Le Petit Paris: I've been frequenting this shop since they opened a few yrs back but somehow missed their expansion into the old L Street Lofts sales office 3 months ago.
The sandwiches and desserts are really good, pricey, but worth it. They make a mean mocha plus great teas and all your other coffee drinks. I think it is the best decorated café/coffee house in town. Talk about adaptive reuse. This is a great building that was worth saving. The owners are very nice, service oriented, and hard-working. They host Second Saturday events and they had a band last night ..........missed the band as we were drinking at Lounge on 20.


Lounge on 20: First time there last night. Crowded and busy. I was impressed because the front door guy was professional, nice and classy, not pretentious. I was impressed because when you ordered wine and champagne by the glass they brought the bottle out, showed it to you, and poured it into your glass in front of you. This is almost never done unless you order the whole bottle. Wait staff all were professional and knowledgeable of there products. Where can you find a list of 30 different champaganes by the glass without having to go to a haute cuisine restaurant? Its nice to have that option. We didn't order food, but they had a nice assortment of small plates, looked very fresh and innovative. Great use of space, very comfortable. One minor faux pas: there is nothing to damper the noise in this huge lounge. Bonne Chance to Ali and the staff at Lounge on 20.
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Expanding: San Francisco's Tres Agaves (130 Townsend St., near Second Street) will open two locations outside the city next year, first in Roseville and then in Las Vegas.

In March, co-owner Eric Rubin says he and his partners, including Joseph Manzare (Zuppa, Globe, Joey & Eddie's) and former Cabo Wabo president Barry Augus, will bring a Tres Agaves to the Fountains at Roseville, an upscale retail center at Roseville Parkway and Galleria Boulevard. At 4,500 square feet, plus outdoor seating, the restaurant will be about half the size of the one in San Francisco, but will include a small retail store specializing in premium Tequilas.
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Published 12:00 am PDT Saturday, August 23, 2008
Story appeared in OUR REGION section, Page B4


Where's the beef? A Fleming's Prime Steakhouse isn't coming to downtown Sacramento, after all.

The Newport Beach-based company has canceled its lease to occupy part of a new restaurant complex at 16th and L streets, inside the former Firestone tires building.

But the retail project's developers seem just as happy with Fleming's replacement: a "teppenyaki" eatery called Sapporo Grill.

In the current economy, steakhouses "aren't doing that well," says developer Ken Fahn.

Sapporo, run by local sushi restaurateur Damond Lee, will be more moderately priced than Fleming's, "kid-friendly" and entertaining, with chefs cooking meals on four big iron grills in the main dining area, Fahn says.

He and development partner Mark Cordano say the Firestone project is still on schedule, with openings later this year of DeVere's Irish Pub and an upstairs lounge, called MIX Downtown, operated by Sacramento's Wong family. Sapporo Grill and a California Pizza Kitchen are expected to open in early 2009.

But it won't be only cuisine dished up in the corner complex. Also joining the project is a "high-end" AT&T store, Cordano says.
High-end AT&T store? How is that different from a regular end AT&T store? It sure would have been nicer to see a local coffee shop there instead. And too bad Flemings won't be coming. Tried their restaurant when I was in Walnut Creek. Food was very good. So, guess it's yet another sushi place downtown.
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I wasn't all that thrilled about Flemings, so i really don't care that they decided not to come.

If we're going to have another steak house (a chain steak house at that) I would prefer a Texas de Brazil.


In any case, i can't wait to see the Firestone tranformed.
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High-end AT&T store? How is that different from a regular end AT&T store? It sure would have been nicer to see a local coffee shop there instead. And too bad Flemings won't be coming. Tried their restaurant when I was in Walnut Creek. Food was very good. So, guess it's yet another sushi place downtown.
No kidding, what the heck is a high-end AT&T store??

I'm glad to see something other than a restaurant included in this project. That area is so full of restaurants that the area is dead during non-eating / drinking hours. A mix of non-restaurant establishments will hopefully help that a bit.

I gotta say too, I think having a couple kid-friendly places in CPK and the sushi place will be nice. It's a little tough to have a night out at a place like Bistro 33 with a 2 year old.

I also wonder if anything is in the works for that small building between the Firestone and the Marriot...it's been sitting there for lease for a long time.
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55 Degress and Midtown Fins have closed....doh! It's the economy stupid. I was wondering how long that Fins would last...it was never that busy when I went by and the prices were a bit high I felt. As for 55 Degrees closing - that really bites but I always thought it was a terrible location. I wonder how Morton's will do after they move?
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55 Degress and Midtown Fins have closed....doh! It's the economy stupid. I was wondering how long that Fins would last...it was never that busy when I went by and the prices were a bit high I felt. As for 55 Degrees closing - that really bites but I always thought it was a terrible location. I wonder how Morton's will do after they move?
Where did you get your information about Fins? I just bought some fish there two or three days ago? As for 55 Degrees. It may be the economy but since they are keeping their new Lounge on 20 in Midtown opened I suspect other things are going on as well. The food was overpriced as you said and to be honest not that great.

The location is fine if there is enough going on downtown to keep people there after 5pm. Since the vast majority of the people working downtown live in the burbs and after work they are road going to home I don't see how they survived as long as they did on a lunch operation.
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I'm actually a little surprised 55 Degrees didn't do better. Thou, The Towers and Aura not going up really hurt it big time.

When I worked on Capitol Mall right after college, Il Fornaio (and 4th Street Grill to a lesser degree) was the common meeting point for a ton of workers in area for after work drinks. I thought having a new option would appeal to area workers after years of the same place, but they never seemed to really get that happy hour crowd going.

On weekends though, esp with the surge in midtown restaurants, I can see how the location was terrible.
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Where did you get your information about Fins? I just bought some fish there two or three days ago?
http://www.sacbee.com/103/story/1208767.html
Swimming upstream: It's finis for two Fins in the region.

Owners of the family-owned Fins Market & Grill have closed outlets in midtown Sacramento and Davis, just a year or so after opening.

Both were "severely underperforming," says Darci Jayousi, who with her husband, Ed, bought the local company in 1998 when it was a single outlet. She blames poor locations and the economic downturn for the closures.

But two other recently opened Fins – on Fair Oaks Boulevard in Sacramento and Sierra College Boulevard in Roseville – are doing "very well," Jayousi reports, as is the original location on Madison Avenue in Fair Oaks.
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OK I have question. I preface my question by saying I'm not a big fan of (multi) national chains BUT don't you think a McDonalds, In and Out, Taco Bell, etc.. would do well in the West Central Midtown area during an economic slump - especially since there are so few? Going to a fast food joint is a once in a great while thing for me but I confess that I went to McDonalds in Folsom the other day -for the first time in three years and it wasn't that bad.

I've noticed that since the economy has taken a dive cheaper food (like hot dogs and burriotos) are more popular than I think they would be if the economy was doing better.

Finns Midtown is/was in a weird location and they didn't turn out to be as good as I thought they'd would be. The neighborhood is still emerging and obviously the R Street Market (what amounts to a suburban style, car-orientated shopping center shoehorned into an urban setting) did not bring life to the street as the imposters urbanites said/thought this project would. What a shock.

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Swimming upstream: It's finis for two Fins in the region.

Owners of the family-owned Fins Market & Grill have closed outlets in midtown Sacramento and Davis, just a year or so after opening.

Both were "severely underperforming," says Darci Jayousi, who with her husband, Ed, bought the local company in 1998 when it was a single outlet. She blames poor locations and the economic downturn for the closures.

But two other recently opened Fins – on Fair Oaks Boulevard in Sacramento and Sierra College Boulevard in Roseville – are doing "very well," Jayousi reports, as is the original location on Madison Avenue in Fair Oaks.

Bummer, I really liked that place, 5mins from work, and it looks nice on that corner.

I've said this more than once before, Midtown is not dense enough......it could use a little more density, offices, jobs on the first or second floors, and medium income apartments homes, condos, lofts on upper floors.
They would still fit it with the 1 and 2 story "historic" homes. Every big city in California has this arrangement and it works.
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If I really feel the need for chain food, it's not hard to get: McDonald's, Del Taco, A&W and KFC along Alhambra, Carl's Jr., another McDonald's and Weinerschnitzel on Broadway. How many Blimpie, Subway and Quizno's sandwich shops are there in midtown already, not to mention Starbuck's and Peet's?

It seems like of the new crop of restaurants, the ones doing best are either the really high-class ones or the really inexpensive ones. As one who prefers the really inexpensive ones, I'm okay with that. There had to be a shakeout sooner or later.
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No way that's a bad location. They serve a bad product, it's that simple. There must be over 60,000 people living in a two mile radius of that restaurant. I went there once and thought it was horrible. There are literally hundreds of other places to get a better meal in the same 2 mile radius. I liked their little fish market thing, and bought from there several times, but Taylor's is only one mile away, and they have it all for the same price.

Fin's other restaurants are doing well because there is zero competition in Roseville, and Fair Oakers are probably sick of eating Bandera every Friday night. That's so lazy of them to blame the economy. Maybe you expanded too fast and stretched yourself too thin? No, it must be the locations and economy.

Now 55 Degrees may have a point about their location. I'm really sorry to see them go.
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If I really feel the need for chain food, it's not hard to get: McDonald's, Del Taco, A&W and KFC along Alhambra, Carl's Jr., another McDonald's and Weinerschnitzel on Broadway. How many Blimpie, Subway and Quizno's sandwich shops are there in midtown already, not to mention Starbuck's and Peet's?

It seems like of the new crop of restaurants, the ones doing best are either the really high-class ones or the really inexpensive ones. As one who prefers the really inexpensive ones, I'm okay with that. There had to be a shakeout sooner or later.
Maybe it's not hard to get for you wburg to get over to Broadway but what about the office worker on a lunch break? They are not going waste most of their break time in traffic just for a Big Mac.

I agree that there are already a lot of chain sandwhich and coffee shops I guess I was meaning hamburgers specifically. I like to eat out at, as you call, them 'high-class' restaurants but I'm not happy about spending more money and time on a simple hamburger, fries and coke.
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