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Old Posted Aug 27, 2008, 10:51 PM
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There's a lot of activity along Harrisville Blvd between Shediac Rd and Rt 15 anyway. It looks like they're putting in sewer or water pipes, but the ground has been leveled off quite a bit on one side. Kind of like what gets done when a road is widened...
Right at the exit, it looks almost like they've started building that new Sobeys that's been rumoured.
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Housing developments planned for Metro
Published Thursday August 28th, 2008

Federal, provincial govt's put up $4.5M for six new buildings in Moncton, Dieppe
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By James Foster
Times & Transcript Staff

Six new affordable housing projects will be built in Moncton and Dieppe, creating 126 units of which 65 will be subsidized for low-income individuals and families.

The federal and provincial governments will each chip in close to $4.5 million on the projects, which are being built by private developers.

"The creation of more affordable housing is essential to our joint efforts to provide low-income individuals opportunities to be active within their community," Mary Schryer, provincial Minister of Social Development, said during yesterday's announcement in Moncton.

"Affordable housing is so important to New Brunswick. That's how we truly build strong communities. We need more of it."

Rob Moore, MP for Fundy Royal says the projects are targeted to people like single seniors, special-needs individuals and low-income earners, "those who need it most."

"Projects like these will provide low-income individuals here in Moncton with safe, quality housing at an affordable cost which will help them to build a better and stronger future," he says.

The funding comes from Phase 3 of the Canada-New Brunswick Affordable Housing Agreement, in which government helps the private sector build affordable units. The total construction bill will be about $9.2 million, but the projects will receive $1.9 million in federal tax dollars to supplement construction costs and the province will shell out $2.5 million in rent supplements for 65 of the units.

Many of the speakers emphasized how granting disadvantaged people the opportunity to enjoy safe, healthy housing is often what kickstarts them on the road to further successes.

Developer Brian Steeves agrees.

"This gives people the chance to live in the type of home that they should have," Steeves says. "It's a real honour to be involved in a project like this."

Steeves also notes that almost all of the projects represented in-filling, or taking up vacant spaces amid built-in areas of Moncton and Dieppe, which means they are much cheaper to serve with municipal services, friendlier to the environment and most are on bus routes. Being new housing, they are also easier to heat.

Steeves, of Seville Property Group, notes that half the 60 units of his apartment building on McLaughlin Drive will come with rent supplements. That building is the first of seven buildings on nine acres that will include a commercial component and which will be planted with native grasses and trees which won't be subject to pesticides.

"People should be very proud to live in one of these units," he says.
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Fire station's stones are golden

Exterior of Botsford St. station was 10 per cent of total building cost

BY ALAN COCHRANE
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The quarried stone exterior of Moncton's new Botsford Street fire station was probably the most expensive option available and represents about 10 per cent of the overall cost of $1.8 million, but will give the building a long-lasting stately appearance, the architect said yesterday.



The quarried-stone exterior of Moncton's new Botsford Street fire station was probably the most expensive option available and represents about 10 per cent of the overall cost of $2 million. "It's a very expensive product but the building was in such a prominent position that we wanted it to have a strong look," said Blair Roma, the Saint John architect who designed the building in conjunction with the builder, Rice Contracting of Moncton. "Fire stations have power and should be a building of strength."

That strength ended up costing about $200,000 or one-tenth of the building's overall pricetag of approximately $2 million when there were other less expensive products that could have been used.

Roma, who also designed the Riverview fire station and Moncton's Hildegard fire station, said the city's design proposals called for a either a brick or stone exterior. As a result, the design/build team proposed the use of quarried stone similar to the exterior of the nearby Moncton High School building, which was constructed in the early 1930s.

"A fire station should be part of the community and bear a resemblance to the rest of the neighbourhood."

Roma said he studied the MHS building extensively and borrowed some design elements when preparing plans for the fire station. The rough stone blocks vary in size and are mainly decorative, while the smooth stones around the windows are an integral part of the structure. He said the stones were individually cut and prepared at a quarry in Nova Scotia, trucked to the site and installed by skilled tradesmen from Acadia Bricklayers. Part of the decision to use the stone was that the building proposal called for a percentage of local materials.

The architectural beauty of quarried sandstone blocks can be seen in several older buildings in Downtown Moncton. A few downtown churches, including the landmark Assomption Cathedral on St. George Street, are built from sandstone. So is the historic Castle Manor on Mountain Road. Roma said the stones turn black over time, usually because of accumulated dirt. St. Bernard's Roman Catholic Church underwent a cleaning and refit a few years ago, restoring the stone to its natural brown colour.

In recent years, builders have been criticized for erecting plain-looking buildings of concrete slabs and brick. In recent years, builders have used cultured stone, which provides the look of real stone at a lower price.

City of Moncton spokesman Paul Thompson said the city wanted to lead by example by providing an esthetically pleasing building at an important gateway to the downtown area from Highway 15. In its request for proposals (RFP), the city stipulated that the exterior of the building must be brick or stone, mainly for the insulation value and to present a dignified look and feel for the building.

He said the design had the lowest cost of several proposals submitted by different builders. Thompson said the stone also has insulating qualities which should result in lower heating and operating costs.

A Moncton retailer said yesterday that cut stone would cost around $14 per square foot, not counting installation cost, while cultured stone would be $10 to $13. Other alternatives are house stone and clay bricks which are in the $7 per square foot range. The popular vinyl siding ranges from $8 to $20 per square foot depending on the grade.

The new fire station is located on Botsford Street near the intersection of Wheeler Boulevard. It has been under construction throughout the summer and is scheduled to go into service sometime in September. It will replace the existing Assomption Boulevard fire station and become the headquarters of the Moncton Fire Department with a ladder truck, administration office and the chief's office.

The station was constructed under a design/build agreement between the city and Rice Contracting, which has built and renovated many buildings around Metro Moncton, including restaurants, hotels, churches, auto dealerships, government buildings and retail stores.

Moncton fire chief Eric Arsenault said he is pleased with the progress of construction and looking forward to moving in next month. He agreed the stone exterior was an expensive component of the building but accomplishes the goal of creating a landmark for the city. When the request for proposals went out in April of 2007, Arsenault said the goal was to create a building that was architecturally pleasing, not just a "plain square garage."

The city and the fire department have already taken heat from critics for the location of the station. It was built in a triangular-shaped lot where King and Botsford streets come to a point at the major intersection where Wheeler Boulevard connects to Highway 15 via the Hall's Creek traffic circle. Critics say the area will be just too busy and fire trucks could be held up in traffic. However, the city says the location will give the station quick access to Wheeler, Shediac Road and the downtown. The road connections have been widened to make more room for fire trucks, resulting in a change in traffic flow around the intersection. For example, cars travelling toward the downtown from Lewisville Road or coming off Highway 15 will no longer be able to swerve left onto King Street.

Arsenault said he is confident the location will provide trucks and fire crews with the mobility and access they require to do the job.

Roma said it was a challenge to design a building to fit into the relatively small lot.

The station was built with two large doors that create a drive-through truck bay between King and Botsford streets. This will allow trucks to exit from the Botsford Street side and return to quarters through the King Street doors.

Another striking feature of the building is the clock tower. Although it appears to be decorative, it is also functiona. The inside of the tower is equipped with special racks where fire hoses can be hung out to dain and dry. It could also be used for training firefighters in climbing and rappelling. Having a clock on the side was part of the city's original design idea.


Personal note - A fire station is a substantive civic building and in this particular case, this building will be the departmental headquarters and is located on a corner at a principle entrance to downtown. I don't think anyone should quibble over $200,000 for stonework for this building. Sure, aluminum or vinyl siding would be cheaper in the short run but I wager that this building will be gracing this corner for 80-100 years (if not longer). The stonework will help to ensure this building's longevity and posterity.

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Parking issue dominates debate on apartments

Planning commission works out a compromise for area residents and developers working on downtown complex

By Yvon Gauvin
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A request to reduce the number of parking spaces for a proposed 50-unit residential complex on Moncton's High Street north of Mountain Road turned into a marathon debate Wednesday night as members of the Greater Moncton Planning District Commission sought to find the right compromise for all concerned.

At one point, there were amendments to the motion to approve the variance request from Tannery Court Cooperative on behalf of Lotusland Holdings Ltd., 430 High St.

The request was to reduce the required 50 regular and three handicapped parking spaces to 17 regular and three handicapped spaces.

The location of the proposed subsidized residential complex intended for single occupants earning under $10,000 is a one-time supermarket between High and Jones Streets. The building's parking lot merges with Myers Avenue, a short cross-street.

The parking questions grew in stature as area residents wondered where the new tenants and their friends were going to park with the street already clogged with vehicles parking on one side. The situation would become even worse during the winter months when a parking ban on city streets is in force, they said.

There already are apartment buildings in the immediate area further complicating the parking issue, said one resident.

Mike Cahill, representing the non-profit co-operative group, said the feeling is that most of the tenants won't need parking spaces with existing bus service in the area.

Similar residential projects operated by the co-operative have shown that only a few tenants needed parking spaces including a Fredericton 50-unit complex outside the city centre area where only 20 tenants requested parking privileges.

He said the planners have enough space for 34 regular and three handicapped parking spots but wanted to use part of the land for landscaping rather than paving. The plan was to add green to the project, he explained.

Debate centered on whether or not to use the available space for parking now or wait and see if the need it there.

One commissioner noted that it could create undue hardships and problems if the area was paved now when only to realize the extra parking wasn't needed.

The debate prompted commissioner Boyd Anderson to question the developer about improvements to Myles Avenue which has no curb or gutter and is almost indistinguishable from the existing parking lot.

Anderson wanted the developer to pay for improvements to the street, eliciting further discussions.

Commission director Bill Budd reminded commissioners that they do not have the jurisdiction to force developers to fix curbs and gutters in this instance.

Anderson then moved to recommend the developer and city engineers meet to discuss street improvements and financial arrangements.

The commission passed the motion and its amendments denying the original request to reduce parking spaces from 50 plus three to 17 plus three in favour of creating 34 regular and 3 handicapped paving spots, establishing a substantive completion date for the project and the recommendation to meet with city engineers regarding Myles Avenue.

Four commissioners voted against the motion.

A request to extend a cul-de-sac off Ammon Road was granted despite objections from local residents who worried about traffic and the area's water table.

The request on behalf of Lawton Hicks will allow for the creation of a subdivision and street linking up with McLaughlin Road.
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Old Posted Aug 29, 2008, 1:44 PM
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I'm actually really glad they used the stone they did. I know the transcript loves to nit-pick every dollar the city spends, but it makes for a nice addition to a generally mediocre part of town and looks great with MHS just up the hill. Plus, the height of the tower and proximity to the widened Botsford street makes the whole area feel more dense.


As for the affordable apartments. I'm glad to hear so many units are being built in the city with poor people in mind. I find it kind of sad when there's so much opposition to this type of project. I realize they're concerned about 'parking issues' but generally, people just don't like that kind of development going up next door. Insofar as parking is concerned. People are just going to have to get used to the fact that, as Moncton grows, space for parking is going to become a bigger issue. Until the city/developers get it into their heads that the city needs some parking structures in key areas, we're going to see more and more of this type of complaint.
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Insofar as parking is concerned. People are just going to have to get used to the fact that, as Moncton grows, space for parking is going to become a bigger issue. Until the city/developers get it into their heads that the city needs some parking structures in key areas, we're going to see more and more of this type of complaint.

The main impetus for getting some additonal parking structures downtown will be when the Beaver Lumber properties and the properties behind Assumption Place finally get developed. This will wipe out a lot of surface parking that will need to be replaced. If a downtown arena gets built behind Assumption Place, they will need a pretty big parking garage.
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St. Pat's Family Centre in Moncton gets boost

September 02, 2008 - 2:55 pm
By: Rebecca Davis, News 91.9 Staff


MONCTON, NB - An announcement of over of $300,000 from the Graham government was announced today by the province's health minister for the St. Patrick's Family Centre in Moncton.

The province had already earmarked $200,000 for the centre earlier in the summer, and then matched a donation of $100,000 given to the centre, by the LeGresley family, who summers in Shediac.

That means, according to Mike Murphy, a total of $400,000 will go towards some great renovations for the centre.

Amongst other things, the centre will now get new locker rooms, new gym facilities, a new roof, and new windows.

The St. Patrick's Family Centre has been operating a variety of services and programs for Moncton residents, from pre-school children, to senior citizens, since 1964.
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A lot of activity on the 'new' site at Mapleton...they are currently erecting a retaining wall along the Mapleton side right now.

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Erick was telling me he saw them pouring foundations.
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Erick was telling me he saw them pouring foundations.
They might be...the retaining wall is huge...that's the only thing I could see as I was whipping by at 120
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Yeah its a hive of activity right now...they have parts of Mapleton paved now (just the base layer) and they are taking down the power lines that would have been directly in the center of the north bound lanes haha.

That retaining wall looks really cool, like you said Jason, its huge!
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Yeah its a hive of activity right now...they have parts of Mapleton paved now (just the base layer) and they are taking down the power lines that would have been directly in the center of the north bound lanes haha.

That retaining wall looks really cool, like you said Jason, its huge!
I really don't understand why the city didnt' just close Mapleton from Frampton to Trinity for construction. They've spent more time moving dirt form one side to the other and back again...

you'd think the logical thing to do would be to close it off, diverting whatever traffic there is onto frampton or the TCH, finishing the construction, then reopening it. It'd be safer, quicker and cheaper.
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I really don't understand why the city didnt' just close Mapleton from Frampton to Trinity for construction. They've spent more time moving dirt form one side to the other and back again...

you'd think the logical thing to do would be to close it off, diverting whatever traffic there is onto frampton or the TCH, finishing the construction, then reopening it. It'd be safer, quicker and cheaper.
haha the people who live on Frampton would flip! Believe me, I know a few...they are already upset about the heightened level of traffic after the street connected to Mapleton. A lot of kids live in the area, and people seem to think they can drive like 70 on the street for some odd reason :S
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I really don't understand why the city didnt' just close Mapleton from Frampton to Trinity for construction. They've spent more time moving dirt form one side to the other and back again...

you'd think the logical thing to do would be to close it off, diverting whatever traffic there is onto frampton or the TCH, finishing the construction, then reopening it. It'd be safer, quicker and cheaper.
I'm sure they didn't really have a choice about shutting Mapleton down. A lot of traffic is diverting to Mountain Road anyway and the traffic situation at the Mountain/Wheeler intersection at rush hour is now pure chaos. It would be infinitely worse if Mapleton had been shut completely.

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Erick was telling me he saw them pouring foundations.
They are pouring at least one foundation; backing onto the offramp from Wheeler onto Mapleton northbound. To my understanding, this is not the building that will house Best Buy/Linens & Things/The Brick. I think that building is supposed to be facing the other way.

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haha the people who live on Frampton would flip! Believe me, I know a few...they are already upset about the heightened level of traffic after the street connected to Mapleton. A lot of kids live in the area, and people seem to think they can drive like 70 on the street for some odd reason :S
If the people on Frampton are unhappy now, wait until it gets extended all the way through to Crowley Farm Road and U de M. Frampton is poised to become the main thoroughfare crosstown north of Wheeler Blvd.
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If the people on Frampton are unhappy now, wait until it gets extended all the way through to Crowley Farm Road and U de M. Frampton is poised to become the main thoroughfare crosstown north of Wheeler Blvd.
Is that supposed to happen? Not sure I like that plan...
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Is that supposed to happen? Not sure I like that plan...
That's the plan. Frampton is to be extended to the university, following roughly the path that Wheeler does. Its supposed to become the main arterial road for the Vision Lands developments the city's been touting for the past few years. I would imagine at some point another road would be built to connect it to the Mclaughin area. Maybe Hennesey? That would allow it to go all the way to Elmwood.

However the city has shown that they'll cave on their municipal plan if enough residents yell 'think of the children!'. Originally, Horseman was to be extended to Twin Oaks, Twin Oaks extended to Muirfield, and Muirfield connected to the ramps onto the TCH near the casino site. Enough people complained about the traffic though, so the city put the kibosh to it. God knows what stupid compromise the city will have to come up with in 10 years when that whole area becomes a giant traffic jam.

There was also some talk a while ago about connecting the road through centenial park to Russ Howard Drive, and then onto Killam where the new roundabout is being built. I'll admit, I can appreciate why you wouldn't want to do that, seeing as it would become a major road overnight and it would be cutting through parks for more than half its length. At the same time though, it would make getting to Mountain Rd a whole lot more convenient for us down in the New West End.
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Is that supposed to happen? Not sure I like that plan...
It might not be as bad as it sounds. I expect that the Frampton extension from Mapleton to Morton will be a major road, likely four lanes. As Myles said, it will be the main route servicing the "vision lands". In addition, it will act as the main access route to the Mapleton Power Centre as well as the other retail development that has been proposed for the immediately adjacent lands just to the east of the Mapleton development. I expect the heaviest traffic therefore will be on this section of the road, extending from Mapleton to Morton.

Human nature being what it is however, people will search for an alternative to the increasingly intolerable congestion on Mountain Road. I'm sure that Frampton will act as an escape valve for the residents of Valhalla Estates. Whether it also becomes an escape route for commuters from further afield is a debatable point.

Nevertheless, once Frampton is extended, it will be a straight shot downtown from Gorge Road all the way to St. George Street (via Frampton/Crowley Farm/Universite/Archibald). The risk is therefore present that the residential portion of Frampton through Valhalla Estate might experience heavier traffic.

The best way to avoid the possibility of increased commuter traffic through Valhalla is to provide other alternatives for inbound traffic on Mountain Road. The upgrades that are happening on Ryan & Horseman Roads should be quite beneficial in this regard as this should divert some traffic from the Kingswood/Evergreen/Rosemount and possibly the Hilegarde subdivisions to Berry Mills Road.

Bottom line; if you are worried about increased traffic through the Valhalla portion of Frampton Lane, this may not be as big a concern as what you fear.
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If this plan to extend frampton goes through I assume like you say, the majority of traffic would be between downtown/elmwood and mapleton rd, and would not continue to the residential section...however, should it become busier they will most likely have to put in speed reducers like speed bumps, more stop signs, speed signs, small roundabouts (like in rural estates, or in Freddy). Some people were thinking they may put lights at the Mapleton/Frampton intersection...just speculation though.
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If this plan to extend frampton goes through I assume like you say, the majority of traffic would be between downtown/elmwood and mapleton rd, and would not continue to the residential section...however, should it become busier they will most likely have to put in speed reducers like speed bumps, more stop signs, speed signs, small roundabouts (like in rural estates, or in Freddy). Some people were thinking they may put lights at the Mapleton/Frampton intersection...just speculation though.
The traffic lights at Mapleton/Frampton are not speculation. They are to be installed next year.
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